View Full Version : The Starter Debate Thread

August 21st, 2007, 1:47 PM
If this has been done before, sorry. I started this since people say 'That one sucks' and 'This one rocks'. So you can debate about all the starters you want here.

Blaziken is one of my favorite, it makes up its crappy speed with brute force and defense. Blaze Kick is killer and Sky Uppercut is fun.

By the way, don't say anything about this being the worst, just say something about your favorite or LIGHTLY criticise a starter.

Light Yagami
August 21st, 2007, 2:39 PM
I think out of them all its gotta be Swampert. Nice attack and defense. Not alot of people carry grass so its a must have on a team.

August 21st, 2007, 3:10 PM
Blaziken's speed is mediocre at best. Swapert was a good poke. Infernape was the best with it's impressive stats.

August 21st, 2007, 3:41 PM
i liked Charizard as its nice sp. atk and speed got me. Charizard was everyone's favorite old school pokemon.

August 21st, 2007, 3:41 PM
johto starters were awesome.

August 21st, 2007, 3:44 PM
yeah i liked meganium out of the johto starters.

August 21st, 2007, 3:46 PM
I like:Infernape for it's ability to be able to crush the other sinnoh starters.

I don't like:Venausaur because of it's typing. One good hit from Alakzam and it is done for.

August 21st, 2007, 3:50 PM
yes i close combat on an empoleon you pwned it and for torterra, anything from infernape is good. its a great choice for a starter.

Light Yagami
August 21st, 2007, 3:56 PM
Feraligatr is great, its attack and movepool make it a great contender. Like Dragon Dance and Dragon Claw.

August 21st, 2007, 4:05 PM
eh typhlosion ftw, thanks.

anyways the rest are just so not typhlosion.

August 21st, 2007, 7:35 PM
cant beat the classics. i say any of the 3 original starters were the best just because they were the most fun when pokemon was new to everyone and a lot of strategies were still unknown until the newer games.

Lil MuDkiP849
August 21st, 2007, 7:49 PM
Infernape, Typlosion, Charizard FTW in fire
blazikens cool n all but it's *little* bosst in defense just doesnt help as much as Infernapes offense.

Swampert is awesome, but if people took a look at Empoleon they'd see all of the %25, %50 attacks it has, plus i think it might be the only steel type not weak to water and fire, which is so cool. Feraligatr's moveset FTW

And for grass..i never really liked grass starters, but if i had to pick a good one i'd have to go with Sceptile, jus for his speed, a grass type with speed definagtely is dangerous

All in all, my top favorite is Typhlosion. It jus kicks that much but

Shiny Umbreon
August 21st, 2007, 8:38 PM
Because this isn't about the games, I'll move this to Pokémon General.


Eternal Nightmare
August 22nd, 2007, 12:55 AM
Infernapes stats are impressive, but I still like Blaziken more than Infernape.


PsyDragon Trainer
August 22nd, 2007, 2:12 AM
Swampert's looks (sprites) make my laugh, especially in D/P, I have 3 different Swampert for my Diamond team, it rocks.

Typhlosion looks sooo ace, too bad of its super bad movepool.

Feraligatr is an awesome Pokémon in D/P, but its sprite just keeps me from using / breeding one... Totodile kicks ass in looks, but 'Gatr ruins it.

Sceptile is awesome, plain awesome, too bad for it's bad Special Movepool in D/P.

Blaziken looks as one of the best IMO, it only has mediocre Speed, which ruins the fun, it can be used as a mixed sweeper ftw.

D/P Starters all look lame in sprites IMO, only Infernape is a good use for competitive play.

The Kanto Starters are sweet, all of them. I only dislike Venusaur a bit.

Red X
August 22nd, 2007, 2:42 AM
Charizard has the best design of all starters. Sceptile close second.

August 22nd, 2007, 5:45 AM
Meganium is the best defensive beast.

Swampert is probably my favorite one, endurance and it packs a punch.

August 22nd, 2007, 12:16 PM
Typhlosion was great in the MetalSeries. It's fire attacks are awesome, and it's Flame Wheel's is one of it's best attacks. Typhlosion's very good to beat Koga (E4), and Falkner's easily beaten by Quilava's Ember. ^^
It's rare to see a fire Pokemon that is that strong already at an early level. Growlithe had to be trained a lot before even learning Ember. ._.

Then come Blaziken and Charizard. There doubble-types make them handy in most battles. And thanks to Charmander learning Metal Claw in FireRed/LeafGreen, it can take out Rock types easily, regardless of it's weakness.

August 22nd, 2007, 12:50 PM
[quote=Mudkipblader;2792371]Typhlosion was great in the MetalSeries. It's fire attacks are awesome, and it's Flame Wheel's is one of it's best attacks./quote]

I disagree that Flame Wheel is a good attack for it only deals a small amount of damage and is only useful when your froze. It's a basically a waste of spice.

I also highly disagree that Infernape has the best stats of all fire starters. Yes, I does have a head on Blaziken in speed, but that's it.

Charizard: Meh move pool with a very average base stats.

HP: 78
Attack: 84
Defense: 78
(Gen I)Special: 85
SpAtk: 109
SpDef: 85
Speed: 100

Typhlosion: Has a really bad move pool and as the same exact stats as Charizard.

HP: 78
Attack: 84
Defense: 78
SpAtk: 109
SpDef: 85
Speed: 100

Blaziken: Great move pool with a great HP and Attack. A must have for the Offensive Player.

HP: 80
Attack: 120
Defense: 70
SpAtk: 110
SpDef: 70
Speed: 80

Infernape: It has the upper hand in the move pool category because it's a Fourth Gen Pokemon. This one is only good for the Speed Player, but does anyone know a Speed Player?

HP: 76
Attack: 104
Defense: 71
SpAtk: 104
SpDef: 71
Speed: 108

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
August 22nd, 2007, 12:51 PM
I hardly use my starters other than Venusaur, Blaziken, Swampert and Empoleon. But out of those 4 I love Swamoert because of it having a great attack and def stats


August 22nd, 2007, 12:57 PM
i like the johto starters on looks and IF you train it well it can rule the world!! XD

August 22nd, 2007, 1:03 PM
I haven't used any D/P starter exept chimchar. I think Infernape has a good movepool. I like high speed Pokemon. So Infernape was good for me. I also like Swampert for its high defence.