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Thief

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    • Alright, so my ideal team consists of Mightyena/Umbreon/Hydreigon/Absol/Zoroark/Bisharp (all male).

    I'm well aware that's probably a poor structure/variety in terms of competitive, but I want to make them work nevertheless; I don't want to use Pokémon that aren't my favourites regardless of how well they do and how many people use them. Currently breeding for a 5/6IV Calm Eevee w/ Wish so I can get the Synchronize Umbreon.

    Anyway, I was wondering what everyone thinks each of those Pokémon should be like to be at their 'best'. Nature, ability, what IV should be skipped out (as I can't see me bothering to try for 6), what EVs should I train them in, movesets, etc.

    I don't want suggestions on what other Pokémon to use as I'm dead-set on using this team no matter what. I just wanna see how well, and how, I can make them work. I'm not a strategist in the slightest but I do want them performing at their best.
     

    PlatinumDude

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    • Is this Gen V or VI?

    Mightyena is TERRIBLE. But if you insist, here's the best it can do:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Crunch
    -Substitute
    -Taunt/Toxic
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: BlackGlasses/Lum Berry
    Ability: Moxie

    Umbreon can't do much offensively back at the opponent, but it can provide support:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Foul Play (Gen V)/Payback (Gen VI)
    -Heal Bell/Toxic/Yawn
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Synchronize

    Hydreigon's movepool is wide, and you should take advantage of that fact:

    Gen V sets:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Superpower
    -Dark Pulse/Earth Power/Earthquake/Roost
    Nature: Rash/Mild
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt

    or
    -Substitute
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Fire Blast/Roost
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast
    -U-turn/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs

    Gen VI set:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Flash Cannon
    -Roost/Fire Blast/Focus Blast
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Note that Absol gained a Mega Evolution in Gen VI; this Mega Evolution has Magic Bounce, which reflects status moves back at the opponent. If this is Gen V, use these:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Superpower
    -Night Slash
    -Fire Blast/Pursuit
    Nature: Naughty/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Dread Plate/BlackGlasses
    Ability: Super Luck

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Superpower
    -Night Slash
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry
    Ability: Super Luck

    Gen VI:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Pursuit/Night Slash
    -Play Rough
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck (changed to Magic Bounce when it Mega Evolves)

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch/Night Slash
    -Play Rough
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck

    Zoroark doesn't do well in Gen VI compared to Gen V, but here goes:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Focus Blast
    -Flamethrower/Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Dark Pulse/Night Daze
    Nature: Naughty
    EVs: 252 Atk/40 SAtk/216 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse/Night Daze
    -Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    In Gen VI, Bisharp gained the notability of being the only Steel Pokemon that still resists Ghost and Dark; it's also another way to deal with Fairies:
    Gen V:
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Iron Head/Low Kick
    -Substitute
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 52 HP/252 Atk/204 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Defiant

    Gen VI:
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Iron Head
    -Night Slash/Substitute
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 124 HP/252 Atk/132 Spe
    Item: Dread Plate/BlackGlasses/Leftovers/Lum Berry
    Ability: Defiant
     
    Thief

    Thief

    The Dark One
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    • PlatinumDude said:
    Is this Gen V or VI?

    Mightyena is TERRIBLE. But if you insist, here's the best it can do:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Crunch
    -Substitute
    -Taunt/Toxic
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: BlackGlasses/Lum Berry
    Ability: Moxie

    Umbreon can't do much offensively back at the opponent, but it can provide support:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Foul Play (Gen V)/Payback (Gen VI)
    -Heal Bell/Toxic/Yawn
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Synchronize

    Hydreigon's movepool is wide, and you should take advantage of that fact:

    Gen V sets:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Superpower
    -Dark Pulse/Earth Power/Earthquake/Roost
    Nature: Rash/Mild
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt

    or
    -Substitute
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    -Fire Blast/Roost
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast
    -U-turn/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs

    Gen VI set:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Flash Cannon
    -Roost/Fire Blast/Focus Blast
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Note that Absol gained a Mega Evolution in Gen VI; this Mega Evolution has Magic Bounce, which reflects status moves back at the opponent. If this is Gen V, use these:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Superpower
    -Night Slash
    -Fire Blast/Pursuit
    Nature: Naughty/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Dread Plate/BlackGlasses
    Ability: Super Luck

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Superpower
    -Night Slash
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry
    Ability: Super Luck

    Gen VI:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Pursuit/Night Slash
    -Play Rough
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck (changed to Magic Bounce when it Mega Evolves)

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch/Night Slash
    -Play Rough
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck

    Zoroark doesn't do well in Gen VI compared to Gen V, but here goes:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Focus Blast
    -Flamethrower/Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Dark Pulse/Night Daze
    Nature: Naughty
    EVs: 252 Atk/40 SAtk/216 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Nasty Plot
    -Dark Pulse/Night Daze
    -Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    In Gen VI, Bisharp gained the notability of being the only Steel Pokemon that still resists Ghost and Dark; it's also another way to deal with Fairies:
    Gen V:
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Iron Head/Low Kick
    -Substitute
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 52 HP/252 Atk/204 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Defiant

    Gen VI:
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Iron Head
    -Night Slash/Substitute
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 124 HP/252 Atk/132 Spe
    Item: Dread Plate/BlackGlasses/Leftovers/Lum Berry
    Ability: Defiant
    Click to expand...

    It's for XY, sorry, shoulda mentioned that. But wow, seriously appreciate the amount of work you put into that (assuming you didn't just copy&paste smogon xD), thanks.

    Haha like I said, I want to make the best out of my ideal team regardless of how bad they do in comp usually.
    Despite Mightyena being 'terrible', is there any reason why Moxie is better than Intimidate?
    If Mighty is as bad as they say then surely it wouldn't manage to get the full use of Moxie, seeing as it wouldn't last long enough to sweep anything (in comparison to immediate effect from Intimidate).

    Was thinking Toxic or Yawn for Umbreon rather than Heal Bell. Might give it Yawn just so Mighty can have Toxic.

    I've been using a Mega Absol since I got the Absolite and I'm loving its ability, so I'll definitely take advantage of its Mega.

    It's 3am so I don't have the ability to reply to that whole post right now, but seriously, thank you. I'll look over it again tomorrow when I get back from college.
     

    PlatinumDude

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    • Thief Noctis said:
    It's for XY, sorry, shoulda mentioned that. But wow, seriously appreciate the amount of work you put into that (assuming you didn't just copy&paste smogon xD), thanks.

    Haha like I said, I want to make the best out of my ideal team regardless of how bad they do in comp usually.
    Despite Mightyena being 'terrible', is there any reason why Moxie is better than Intimidate?
    If Mighty is as bad as they say then surely it wouldn't manage to get the full use of Moxie, seeing as it wouldn't last long enough to sweep anything (in comparison to immediate effect from Intimidate).

    Was thinking Toxic or Yawn for Umbreon rather than Heal Bell. Might give it Yawn just so Mighty can have Toxic.

    I've been using a Mega Absol since I got the Absolite and I'm loving its ability, so I'll definitely take advantage of its Mega.

    It's 3am so I don't have the ability to reply to that whole post right now, but seriously, thank you. I'll look over it again tomorrow when I get back from college.
    Click to expand...

    Moxie, which boosts Attack upon KOing an opponent, is preferred because it makes up for Mightyena's average Attack. You can get a Moxie Mightyena from the Friend Safari.
     
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