Heart Gold; Indigo Plateau

Damn, I never really realised how hard the Eite Four are in Johto since they removed Ice Punch, Fire Punch & Thunder Punch as TM's.

Anywho, just completed it, I'll head over to Kanto soon XD

That killed a bit of the game now. :(

It's not HG/SS without those TMs. ;;

Wind~;bt21984 said:

That killed a bit of the game now. :(

It's not HG/SS without those TMs. ;;

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I seriously wanted to punch the screen when I went in Goldenrod Department and found Blizzard etc.

It was known that the Elemental Punches wouldn't become TMs due to compatability reasons with DPPt. However, there are move tutors who can help.

Although, if you think the Elites were hard now, wait until you go into a rematch with them. :P

I want my Dynamic Punch TM.

Battle Frontier has the old TMs, yo. So does Platinum so if you have that you could always trade over for a quick tutor. =P

Some pokes can now learn the Fangs as well if they could have learnt the Punchs (Like Feraligatr - Ice Fang) - slightly weaker, and with a touch less accuracy (95%), but with a flinch chance.

It is apity with them, but they simply couldn't happen, because 3rd gen games/DPPt had the TMs already set - they have to remain the same for trading, etc purposes. So blame those games. =P

That killed a bit of the game now. :(

It's not HG/SS without those TMs. ;;

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It isn't GSC without those in the TM department, you mean. ;)

I seriously wanted to punch the screen when I went in Goldenrod Department and found Blizzard etc

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Ah, but what punch did you want to use?

You've already beaten the E4? Freak.