Surgery complete...Now to check the Results...

[Anti]

Thanks so much everbody who posted in my last thread. You helped a bunch! This is 3rd gen for those who don't know. Well, Here's the finished product:

Kingdra(lead)@Lum Berry**Hydromotor
Trait: Swift Swim
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 240 Special Attack, 18 Speed
~Rain Dance
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Dragonbreath

My Special Sweeper. Kingdra sets up rain and sweeps away. Not sure about it as my lead, Scizor and Slaking do the job as well. Really packs a nasty punch with STABed surf with the rain in play. Great with the screens from hypno as well.

Hypno@Leftovers**Hypcronus
Trait: Insomnia
Calm Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, 6 Special Attack
~Reflect
~Light Screen
~Psychic/Thunderpunch
~Fire Punch

My Special Wall. Also serves as a fine pseudo-passer. Thunderpunch for type coverage and psychic for STAB. Hypno is an important part of my team and he won't faint easily with the screens in place. Helps Slaking and Kingdra take hits.

Steelix@Leftovers**Metalicon
Trait: Sturdy/Rock Head
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
~Roar
~Earthquake
~Explosion/Rock Slide
~Toxic/Rest

My Physical Wall. Steelix is also a toxishuffler and my PHazer, and counters many types. Toss up on the ability, as I probably won't use either one with the OHKO clause. Can recieve Swords Dance from Sizor and can be a nasty attacker as well.

Scizor@White Herb**Chromo
Trait: Swarm
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 132 HP, 126 Defense
~Baton Pass
~Silver Wind
~Swords Dance
~Aerial Ace

My Baton Passer. Scizor has AA to counter heracross. Silver Wind is great for BPing purposes if I get luck and it poweres me up. The EVs give Scizor enough strength to survive some physical attacks, and is once again great with the screens from Hypno.

Blastoise@Leftovers**Doom-Elite
Trait: Torrent
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 132 Special Defense, 126 Defense
~Rapid Spin
~Yawn/Rest
~Surf
~Seismic Toss

My Rapid Sinning Tank. My startegy is to use yawn to get them to sleep and then wreck havoc with seismic toss, and maybe surf over counter. Can rapid spin leech seed and all the annoying junk, and counters most of the bulky waters fine.

Slaking@Choice Band**DaOHKOsMan
Trait: Traunt
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Hyper Beam
~Shadow Ball
~Focus Punch
~Return

My Physical OHKO Sweeper. I have a great strategy for him. First, switch in on the special wall after hypno sets a screen or two, or even none would be fine. If I predict a switch, like from BLiss to Skarm, I use Focus Punch and...BANG. Can take out the physical and special wall if I use it correctly. His success depends on my prediction in some ways. Hyper Beam is the main weapon usually. Shadow Ball for Ghosts, Focus Punch for Steels, and Rock Slide for better all-around coverage. Note: I don't have the EQ TM, so I can't use it. He too can recieve attack from Scizor, so Hyper Beam is a sure-fire OHKO.

That's my team, if you see problems fix away, but I really want a rating and a short reason why basically. Rate it from 1-10 (I'll install the poll soon). Well, go ahead, and thanks again for all the help everybody gave!

 

[Sora_8920]

Blastoise @:Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold/Relaxed Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Yawn
Rest.

 

[Anti]

Blastoise @:Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Bold/Relaxed Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Yawn
Rest.

I fogot to mention this: My team is kinda bad dealing with bulky waters like milotic, so I need seismic toss to inflict Damage. So replce ice beam with it and I'm set, right? I will be switching a lot with slaking so I may need a RSer to get rid of spikes. I see your point with rest though. I'm stuck between rest and Rapid Spin? Thoughts? I'm leaning towards rest, But...I don't know at this point...yeah.

 

[Sora_8920]

I fogot to mention this: My team is kinda bad dealing with bulky waters like milotic, so I need seismic toss to inflict Damage. So replce ice beam with it and I'm set, right? I will be switching a lot with slaking so I may need a RSer to get rid of spikes. I see your point with rest though. I'm stuck between rest and Rapid Spin? Thoughts? I'm leaning towards rest, But...I don't know at this point...yeah.

He's a great Rapid Spinner, so Rapid spin can be used. Edit; How could i forgot about Subpunching combo, and Earthquake.

 

[Anti]

Okay, old EVs and that mumbo jumbo. Here's the current moveset:
~Seismic Toss
~Surf
~Yawn
~Rest/Rapid Spin

Do I need recovery or spikes protection more? I'll be switching an awful lot, so I'm leaning towards rapid spin now...what do you think I should choose?

 

[Sora_8920]

He's a great Rapid Spinner, so Rapid spin can be used. Edit; How could i forgot about Subpunching combo, and Earthquake.

Read the last part about Subpunching, and Earthquake. But to answer your question, Your team isn't really prepared for spikes except for Blastoise, so yeah, use Rapid Spin. Edit: I voted nine/9.

 

[Anti]

Wow, I got a 9 on the poll from penguinpal6, that's the highest vote I've ever gotten on any team. Thanks Itachi I'll use Rapid Spin...Any other kinks to iron out, because I haven't started on this team at all, barring my lv. 100 kingdra. Okay, thanks. Any loose ends to tie?

 

[Sora_8920]

Read the last part about Subpunching, and Earthquake. But to answer your question, Your team isn't really prepared for spikes except for Blastoise, so yeah, use Rapid Spin. Edit: I voted nine/9.

Read the last part again, I voted nine as well, It's almost perfect. Best you've ever done.

 

[Anti]

Thanks so much. It really feels good since I've been working on this team for the past week. I was kida stuck on Hypno, Kingdra, and Steelix. Well, feel free to post any kinks. Thanks so much! It really means a lot. So thanks a ton guys and girls.

 

[Sora_8920]

One change on Kingdra, Replace Dragonbreath with DD.

 

[Anti]

But kingdra doesn't have any physical attacks? Rain dance powers up its speed to 414 if that's what you're worried about. I had to do something to 85 base Speed...But that's what rain dance is for.

EDIT: I like Dbreath because of the paralyze thing and STAB. I hit every simgle pokemon with a normal effective hit except empoleon, but it's 3rd gen, so yay! It's for type coverage really.

 

[Sora_8920]

But kingdra doesn't have any physical attacks? Rain dance powers up its speed to 414 if that's what you're worried about. I had to do something to 85 base Speed...But that's what rain dance is for.

Can't it do some damage with Waterfall in place of Surf, I know, it has less base power, but that's changed with one DD.

 

[Anti]

Remeber now, in 3rd gen waterfall is a special move. It's physical movepool is return and HP in 3rd gen unfortunately. I would probably use that in D/P, but not in the oldschool emerald.

 

[Sora_8920]

Remeber now, in 3rd gen waterfall is a special move. It's physical movepool is return and HP in 3rd gen unfortunately. I would probably use that in D/P, but not in the oldschool emerald.

Oh yeah, Moves are based on their Type, What about Agility in place of Rain Dance?

 

[Anti]

I thought of that, but powering up surf OHKOs Swampert most likely. 300 special attack + STAB + Rain boost = Doom. TTar dies, lots of things die or get nailed. The only disadavantage is I can't power up my speed anymore after the rain is set, but 414 is enough to outspeed many pokemon, and Kingdra can't survive two hits, even with the HP EVs, especially mence and heracross. It is a good argument. Agility or rain dance?

 

[Sora_8920]

I thought of that, but powering up surf OHKOs Swampert most likely. 300 special attack + STAB + Rain boost = Doom. TTar dies, lots of things die or get nailed. The only disadavantage is I can't power up my speed anymore after the rain is set, but 414 is enough to outspeed many pokemon, and Kingdra can't survive two hits, even with the HP EVs, especially mence and heracross. It is a good argument. Agility or rain dance?

Replace Rain dance, or Dbreath with and put in Agility.

 

[Anti]

Okay, one vote each...I just think Kingdra doesn't need more than 414 speed and powered up surf helps to take down a lot of pokes. Rain dance has the sam effect as one agility. I'm that idiot who can't make up his mind! I wouldn't use agility more than once, so does it have any other advantages over rain dance? It also powers down fire moves on steelix and scizor, and add it with lightscreen and they have survival hopes! That's just me. I really wanna know what agility has to offer so I can make the best choice.

 

[n3croart]

Great job! Just I'd use Surf instead of Counter. (Yeah I know you said you don't have to post, just wanted to say this.)

~ Only my opinion ~

 

[Anti]

Okay. The whole point of counter was for a heracross counter, but Scizor does that, so I'm cool (I had jolteon originaly over Scizor). Okay, surf on blastoise. After viewing the poll, I think I finally got this right, so I'm keeping this team. Here's a rundown:

Kingdra-fine I guess
Scizor-cool
Steelix-one question I'll ask later
Slaking-should it lead over Kingdra? Fine though
Blastoise-Yeah, it's okay now
Hypno-Still a little unsure about some stuff, but overall okay

My question about steelix: Should I replace toxic for rest? Well, thanks for all the help guys.

 

[Shinespike]

Whose tier list are you going by?