Help with competitive team? ????

Jiikininki said:

So please give me suggestions on teammates (no legends)

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HeroLinik said:

I'm not going to lie, this is a really common misconception that new players fall into when they're getting their teams rated, in that legendary Pokemon are automatically overpowered. In fact, only a certain subset of legendaries are overpowered, and they're banned from standard play: you may know which ones I'm talking about. There are a lot of legendaries that are fair game, such as Landorus-T and Tapu Koko, while others are just bad in higher-level play, such as Virizion. Don't hesitate to use legendaries, as long as they're not ridiculously broken like Primal Groudon and Yveltal.

As for your team, you seem to be a little Greninja-weak, and what can be covered, you'll end up losing to the Tapus. You may have Breloom, but in a fairy-infested world he may not be pulling the punches (pun intended). My advice is to drop him, and replace him with Tapu Bulu. With an Assault Vest he can really soak hits, and heal off them with Grassy Terrain. However, that'll mean dropping EQ on Gliscor for Stone Edge. Jellicent, I'm tempted to replace with Toxapex. Don't even get me wrong - Toxapex is absolutely AMAZING in the current meta. He takes hits like a boss, can dish out poison, and can heal on the switch thanks to Regenerator...not to mention he checks a lot of common stuff in the tier like Heatran.

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Levea said:

Spoiler: the recommended teamates and changes in my opininion

Jellicent @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Recover
- Scald
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Ball

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spe
Impish Nature
- Defog
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Roost

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Roost
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off

Mamoswine @ Metronome
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
- Earthquake

Greninja @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Gunk Shot
- U-turn
- Rock Slide
- Ice Beam


Volcarona @ Psychium Z
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Flamethrower
- Psychic
- Hidden Power ground

this is all i could really come up with at the moment regarding your specifications
also ignore the metronome if you want its a placeholder item for the time being. i hope it helps also i replaced breloom with scizor if that is not something that you desire then you may disregard that suggestion.

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PlatinumDude said:

I wouldn't bother with Jellicent really, because it suffered from the Knock Off buff in Gen VI. A better bulky Water to use here is Toxapex because of its great bulk on both ends of the spectrum:
-Scald
-Haze
-Toxic/Toxic Spikes/Knock Off
-Recover
Nature: Calm/Bold
EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SpD or 248 HP/192 Def/64 SpD or 248 HP/252 Def/8 SpD
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator


While I agree with the Breloom swap to Bulu, it may be a better idea to use Tyranitar instead, as it benefits from weakened Earthquakes and can even provide Stealth Rock support when needed:
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream

or
-Stealth Rock
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 188 HP/252 Atk/68 Spe
Item: Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream

or
-Dragon Dance
-Stone Edge
-Crunch/Ice Punch
-Fire Punch
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream


Fire Blast is better over Flamethrower on Volcarona because it's stronger and still decently accurate. Bug Buzz is also a legitimate coverage option so Volcarona can hit Tyranitar harder.

To continue with the above, Kartana can act as a Defogger for the team for Volcarona, as Gliscor's Earthquakes wold be weakened by Tapu Bulu's Grassy Terrain. It can also use the terrain to power up its Leaf Blade:
-Leaf Blade
-Smart Strike/Knock Off
-Sacred Sword
-Defog
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

Scarf Greninja uses a more specialized EV spread of 176 Atk/80 SAtk/252 Spe to guarantee the OHKO on Kartana with Ice Beam:
-Gunk Shot/Rock Slide
-Ice Beam
-U-turn
-Spikes/Low Kick
Nature: Naive
EVs: 176 Atk/80 SpA/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean

Mega Scizor uses specialized EV spreads to make the most out of both power and bulk: 248 HP/64 Atk/124 Def/16 SDef/56 Spe 2HKOs min bulk Zygarde with +2 Bullet Punch and avoids the 2HKO from Magearna's boosted Thunderbolt.

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Levea said:

I acknowledge your reasoning's for the different ev spreads however, i also wish to point out the individual does not wish to use Legendary/mythical pokemon ( assuming the individual includes Mythical pokemon in that statement) so i put everything else as teammates to accommodate for that plus i was typing this up late at night so the spreads are likely going to be half fast for a few of them as well as flamethrower over fire blast if i was typing the team up now i would have replaced jellicent with toxapex.

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Jiikininki said:

Thank you for suggestion guys I really like the volcarona set!! I think I'm going to stick with jellicent because I've had a better win rate with him compared to toxapex, I would however like a Poison type or fairy type or some special attackers and physically defensive but I can find the right ones, I was thinking of going with reuniclus but solo psychic type I'm scared would get bowled over in the meta

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PlatinumDude said:

As I already mentioned, Jellicent is very prone to Knock Off because of its low Defense and Dark weakness, hence why Toxapex fares better. I'd recommend re-testing Toxapex on your team before coming back.

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