Competitive Team Questions (and Incomplete Team Help)

Vecransyh said:

Thanks alot for your suggestions, and I have already changed that Flamethrower in. Do you really think that Golurk is fast enough to make use of the Life Orb? And for Jellicent I threw on Hex for Ghost STAB, since he has Scald and Toxic on him as well.

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Fire Blast is still preferred on Chandelure as its Fire STAB because Flamethrower misses out on some OHKOs. However, Substitute is still viable if you want to have an easier time predicting your opponent's moves.

Golurk is a bit slow to use Life Orb effectively (unless it's using Rock Polish); it's better off with Lefties or a Choice Band:
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Earthquake
-Shadow Punch/Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Iron Fist

or
-Earthquake
-Shadow Punch
-Stone Edge/Ice Punch
-Hammer Arm/Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Iron Fist

or
-Rock Polish
-Earthquake
-Shadow Punch
-Stone Edge/Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist

or
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Fire Punch/Shadow Punch
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/80 Atk/176 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Iron Fist

While Hex is an interesting option on Jellicent, the move heavily relies on the opponent being statused, so it's not very reliable. Taunt is the preferred option on physically defensive Jellicent to screw over walls. On specially defensive sets, Shadow Ball (as a secondary STAB) or Ice Beam (to hit Dragon and Grass Pokemon hard) are preferred. Both moves also hit Lati@s supereffectively.

Sadly, Golurk isn't much of anything to look at. Have you thought about Confagrigus? It walls really good, perfect for Toxic Stall, once I pumped mine up to extreme levels with Calm Mind (it was hilarious, they couldn't make a dent in it, Leftovers + Rest took care of all damage and status conditions).

In other words, it doesn't matter all that much on what you put on Golurk, it will fall to anything that was made to deal damage, Hydreigon, Chandelure, anything like that.

Building my team. Help?

When building a team for competitive play. What should I be looking for as my party? My team as of right now is
Lucario lvl 92
Vanilluxe lvl 100
Electivire lvl 100
Landorus lvl 100
Ferrothorn lvl 100
and a staryu lvl 1 but it will be a lvl 100 starmie
So anything like movesets or just advice on what to use, what not to use. That would all be appreciated. Thanks.

brandonfriestatertots said:

When building a team for competitive play. What should I be looking for as my party? My team as of right now is
Lucario lvl 92
Vanilluxe lvl 100
Electivire lvl 100
Landorus lvl 100
Ferrothorn lvl 100
and a staryu lvl 1 but it will be a lvl 100 starmie
So anything like movesets or just advice on what to use, what not to use. That would all be appreciated. Thanks.

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Okay, let's see...

Lucario has a good physical and special movepool for you to take advantage of (note: you may have to breed or use move tutors for some of these moves):
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Nasty Plot
-Aura Sphere
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
-Vacuum Wave/Hidden Power (Ice)/Dragon Pulse
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

or
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-ExtremeSpeed
-Stone Edge/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Band

or
-Aura Sphere
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Dragon Pulse
-Vacuum Wave
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

While Vanilluxe has good stats, it has a shallow movepool. You'll have to find a better Ice Pokemon to use, like Mamoswine:
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Endeavor
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Thick Fat

or
-Earthquake
-Icicle Crash
-Stone Edge
-Ice Shard
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat

or
-Icicle Spear/Icicle Crash
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Superpower
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Thick Fat

Electivire doesn't do as well in OU as it used to because of its middling Speed, but you could give it a shot:
-Wild Charge
-Ice Punch
-Earthquake
-Cross Chop
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Expert Belt/Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive

or
-Wild Charge/Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Cross Chop/Earthquake
-Ice Punch/Hidden Power (Grass)
Nature: Naive
EVs: 144 Atk/140 SAtk/224 Spe
Item: Expert Belt/Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive

But then again, there are better Electric Pokemon to use out there, like Jolteon or Wash Rotom because of their superior Speed and bulk, respectively:

Jolteon:
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Shadow Ball/Signal Beam
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb

Wash Rotom:
-Volt Switch
-Hydro Pump
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split/Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Modest
EVs: 184 HP/4 Def/144 SAtk/176 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Volt Switch
-Hydro Pump
-Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split
Nature: Calm
EVs: 248 HP/28 Def/228 SDef
Item: Leftovers

or
-Volt Switch
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Trick/Thunderbolt
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Sand Force Landorus is preferred in Sandstorm teams, but Sheer Force Landorus, as well as Therian Landorus are still usable outside of said teams. Therian Landorus can be obtained via Dream Radar in B2/W2, and it has different stats and a different ability compared to Incarnate Landorus (Therian Landorus' ability is Intimidate and its stats are as follows in order of HP/Attack/Defense/Special Attack/Special Defense/Speed: 89/145/90/105/80/91)):

Incarnate Landorus:
-Earth Power
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Rock Polish/Substitute/Psychic
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force

Therian Landorus:
-Stealth Rock/Gravity
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-U-turn
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 200 HP/64 Atk/244 Def
Item: Leftovers

or
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-U-turn
-Superpower/Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Jolly/Naive
EVs: 32 HP/252 Atk/224 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Gravity
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Hidden Power (Ice)/U-turn
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Rock Polish
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Explosion
Nature: Naughty/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Swords Dance
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Given Ferrothorn's high defenses and good typing, a support set is ideal for it:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip/Protect
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

Starmie is one of the best offensive Rapid Spinners, period:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin/Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure

So i was thinking about my team, and this is what i managed to make of it! still have an open spot

1) Gengar @ Focus Sash
Levitate | Timid
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Destiny Bond

OR

Espeon @ Leftovers
Magic Bounce | Timid
Psyshock/psychic
Shadowball
Hidden Power
?

2) Milotic @ Leftovers
Marvel Scale | Calm
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Recover

3) Salamence @ Life Orb
Intimidate | Naughty
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Outrage

4) Weavile @ Focus Sash
Pressure | Jolly
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash
- Ice Shard
- Brick Break

5) Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace | Calm
- Roost
- Air Slash
- Grass Knot OR Thunder Wave
- Aura Sphere OR Thunder Wave

6) ?

Having the hardest time deciding! I am willing to change everything about the team, except for my Weavile :)

Creame said:

So i was thinking about my team, and this is what i managed to make of it! still have an open spot

1) Gengar @ Focus Sash
Levitate | Timid
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Destiny Bond

OR

Espeon @ Leftovers
Magic Bounce | Timid
Psyshock/psychic
Shadowball
Hidden Power
?

2) Milotic @ Leftovers
Marvel Scale | Calm
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Recover

3) Salamence @ Life Orb
Intimidate | Naughty
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Outrage

4) Weavile @ Focus Sash
Pressure | Jolly
- Swords Dance
- Night Slash
- Ice Shard
- Brick Break

5) Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace | Calm
- Roost
- Air Slash
- Grass Knot OR Thunder Wave
- Aura Sphere OR Thunder Wave

6) ?

Having the hardest time deciding! I am willing to change everything about the team, except for my Weavile :)

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Destiny Bond is an interesting option on Gengar, but the opponent can potentially do something else instead of KOing Gengar the turn it's used, making Destiny Bond more of a "get the timing right" move:
-Substitute
-Disable/Pain Split/Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fire)
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb

or
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Fire)
-Protect
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge

Espeon could consider using Calm Mind alongside Life Orb, or Trick alongside Choice Specs/Scarf. It can also Baton Pass Calm Minds:
-Calm Mind
-Stored Power
-Hidden Power (Fighting)
-Baton Pass
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce

Milotic is better off using a Bold nature, since its Special Defense is high enough already. The EV spread should be 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe.

Low Kick is the better option over Brick Break on Weavile because most Fighting-weak Pokemon are rather heavy.

While Togekiss is a good supporter in its own right, Jirachi can do it better:
-Iron Head
-Body Slam/Thunder Wave
-Fire Punch/Protect/Stealth Rock
-Wish
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/224 SDef/32 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Body Slam/Thunder Wave
-Iron Head
-Fire Punch
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spe
Item: Leftovers

If this team is struggling with Steel Pokemon, Magnezone is a good choice for taking them out:
-Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (Fire/Ice)
-Charge Beam/Flash Cannon
Nature: Timid
EVs: 36 HP/252 SAtk/220 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Magnet Pull

or
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Flash Cannon
-Hidden Power (Fire/Ice)
Nature: Timid (Choice Scarf)/Modest (Choice Specs)
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe (Choice Scarf) or 148 HP/252 SAtk/108 Spe (Choice Specs)
Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Specs

help me with my pokemon

i want all of my pokemon to be good for competitive these are all the ones i have

lv1 oshawott
lv11 purloin
lv10 pidove
lv11 patrat
lv12 throh
lv15 darumaka
lv16 scraggy
lv14 sewaddle
lv 15 woobat
lv 11 tepig
lv27 emolga
lv29 rufflet
lv25 whirlipede
lv24 joltik
lv26 drillbur
lv23 foongus
lv28 litwick
lv 25 klink
lv20 minccino
lv22 deerling
lv24 gigalith
lv 24 ferroseed
lv29 cubchoo
lv25 zoroa
lv33 stoutland
lv32 golett
lv36 krokorok
lv31 stunkfisk
lv38 musharna
lv40 bouffalant
lv45 serperior
lv40 durant
lv48 haxorus
lv50 escavalier
lv52 bisharp
lv50 zweilous

please tell me how to raise them well for wifi battles and tournamnets

I want a really nice Genesect and I'm planning on learning RNG so I can get mine to be Flawless and have a great nature, but really, what's it's best nature?
Can you think of a good way to use Genesect in battle?

masaru3 said:

I want a really nice Genesect and I'm planning on learning RNG so I can get mine to be Flawless and have a great nature, but really, what's it's best nature?
Can you think of a good way to use Genesect in battle?

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Genesect is mainly used as a scout/revenge killer, similar to Scizor. It also has Download to help with mixed attacking, as well as Rock Polish for late-game sweeping:
-U-turn
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt/Bug Buzz
-Flamethrower/Bug Buzz
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 8 Atk/248 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Rock Polish
-Bug Buzz/Flamethrower
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt/Giga Drain/Flamethrower
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-U-turn
-Ice Beam
-Flamethrower
-Bug Buzz/Thunderbolt
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Expert Belt/Focus Sash

or
-Bug Buzz
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-U-turn/Flamethrower/Giga Drain
Nature: Mild/Rash
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs

or
-U-turn
-Iron Head/Zen Headbutt
-Flamethrower
-Explosion/Ice Beam
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band

@ goobahead1:
Out of the list that you have, these are the guys you should train up:
Lv 24 Joltik
Lv 28 Litwick
Lv 25 Zorua
Lv 40 Durant
Lv 48 Haxorus
Lv 50 Zweilous

These are the best Pokemon on your list, either because of stats or movepools. I know that Joltik/Galvantula isn't an OU, but that thing can have a 100% Thunder with STAB without rain, so that's something to consider, plus it's only weak to Rock types, and Signal Beam can hit any Grass-types trying to switch into a Thunder.

Litwick/Chandelure has amazing Special Attack, and an incredible movepool, considering what it does. You will need to train it up in Speed as much as you can.

Zorua has the potential, as long as you have the TMs. Its level-up Movepool is laughable, being only Dark and Normal moves, so teach it the more powerful moves when you get them.

Durant has incredible Speed and Attack, and its moveset can take down the Fire-type it's weak to by using Head Smash, as well as anything else that tries to get in its way.

Haxorus can resist a lot of things, and after two Dragon Dances, it can sweep the metagame, plus hit anything neutrally with the right three attacking moves.

Zweilous evolves into one of the most dynamic sweepers in the meta. Hydreigon has insane special attack, moderate speed, and the movepool that can hit almost anything in the game with super-effective damage.



@masaru3 You want your Genesect to be Timid. While it can learn good physical moves, its special movepool far outclasses it. Also, a tip? Get rid of Techno Blast. All the moves that Techno Blast can become, there's a better move that's the same type. So, my movepool is Thunderbolt, Psychic, Flamethrower, and Ice Beam (I prefer the 100% accuracy moves over a little more damage), and it can hit a lot with its decent speed.

I have 3 pokemon in my team right now (see below) and i need 3 more any suggestions based on these 3

Rapidash lvl 100
attack: 230
defense: 183
sp. attack: 209
sp defense: 196
speed: 298
hp: 284
moves: flare blitz
bounce
stomp
fire blast
(no ev's)


Tangrowth lvl 100
attack: 202
defense: 260
sp attack: 281
sp defense: 141
speed: 124
hp: 368
moves: ancient power
grass knot
slam
sludge bomb
(no ev's)
Glalie lvl 49 so final stats not sure yet
(won't have ev's)

Pvt Tamama said:

I have 3 pokemon in my team right now (see below) and i need 3 more any suggestions based on these 3

Rapidash lvl 100
attack: 230
defense: 183
sp. attack: 209
sp defense: 196
speed: 298
hp: 284
moves: flare blitz
bounce
stomp
fire blast
(no ev's)


Tangrowth lvl 100
attack: 202
defense: 260
sp attack: 281
sp defense: 141
speed: 124
hp: 368
moves: ancient power
grass knot
slam
sludge bomb
(no ev's)
Glalie lvl 49 so final stats not sure yet
(won't have ev's)

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Rapidash isn't good competitively, since Fire Pokemon like Arcanine, Darmanitan and Chandelure have better movepools than it does. For the sake of simplicity, I'll do the first two, since both are physically-inclined Fire Pokemon like Rapidash:
-Flare Blitz
-ExtremeSpeed
-Wild Charge/Crunch
-Close Combat/Morning Sun
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 72 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef/176 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire/Intimidate

Darmanitan:
-Flare Blitz
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake/Superpower
-U-turn
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Ability: Sheer Force

Regenerator is the preferred ability on Tangrowth to help it survive battle by switching out:
-Sleep Powder
-Giga Drain/Power Whip
-Hidden Power (Fire/Ice)/Earthquake
-Leech Seed/Synthesis
Nature: Bold/Impish/Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator

Glalie's way too balanced stats make it a not-so-appealing option competitively. Froslass is the better alternative due to its high Speed:
-Spikes
-Taunt
-Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
-Pain Split/Destiny Bond
Nature: Timid
EVs: 248 HP/8 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Cursed Body

or
-Spikes
-Taunt
-Destiny Bond
-Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Cursed Body

Since some of your Pokemon are weak to Stealth Rock, Hitmontop can Rapid Spin away opposing hazards:
-Rapid Spin
-Foresight/Toxic
-Close Combat
-Sucker Punch/Stone Edge
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate

Slowbro has good synergy with Tangrowth:
-Scald
-Psyshock/Fire Blast
-Slack Off
-Thunder Wave/Toxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/244 Def/16 SAtk
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator

or
-Calm Mind
-Scald
-Psyshock
-Slack Off
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/244 Def/16 SAtk
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator

or
-Surf/Scald
-Psyshock/Psychic
-Fire Blast
-Trick/Grass Knot
Nature: Modest
EVs: 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 Spe
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Regenerator

Heracross makes a good revenge killer for the team:
-Megahorn
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake/Night Slash/Sleep Talk
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf/Choice Band
Ability: Moxie/Guts

Want to add Growlithe/Arcanine to my team. Have an idea of which way i want to play him. Would like thoughts.

Lonely / Intimidate

atk 252, sp atk, 252. spd 4

Outrage
agility
Flamethrower
heat wave

This is how i am thinking of setting it up

AdrianD said:

Want to add Growlithe/Arcanine to my team. Have an idea of which way i want to play him. Would like thoughts.

Lonely / Intimidate

atk 252, sp atk, 252. spd 4

Outrage
agility
Flamethrower
heat wave

This is how i am thinking of setting it up

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While Arcanine is considered to be a good offensive Pokemon, it is advisable to use his potential as a Physical attacker than a Special one. Arcanine can't learn Outrage, only Dragon Pulse, and Flamethrower + Heat Wave is redundant. If you really want a Special-attacking variant of Arcanine, then I suggest to use this:

Arcanine @ Life Orb
Nature: Timid / Modest
252 SpA 252 Spe 4 SpD
-Flamethrower / Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Grass / Electric
-Dragon Pulse
-Morning Sun

This set works best under Sun. If you want a Sunny Day setup on Arcanine:

Arcanine @ Leftover / Life Orb
Nature: Timid / Modest
192 HP / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 64 Spe
-Sunny Day
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-Solar Beam
-Morning Sun


If you then decide to use an Arcanine that is Physically Offensive:

Arcanine @ Life Orb
Nature: Jolly / Adamant
72 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD / 176 Spe
-Flare Blitz
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch/Wild Charge
-Close Combat/Morning Sun

Musica said:

While Arcanine is considered to be a good offensive Pokemon, it is advisable to use his potential as a Physical attacker than a Special one. Arcanine can't learn Outrage, only Dragon Pulse, and Flamethrower + Heat Wave is redundant. If you really want a Special-attacking variant of Arcanine, then I suggest to use this:

Arcanine @ Life Orb
Nature: Timid / Modest
252 SpA 252 Spe 4 SpD
-Flamethrower / Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Grass / Electric
-Dragon Pulse
-Morning Sun

This set works best under Sun. If you want a Sunny Day setup on Arcanine:

Arcanine @ Leftover / Life Orb
Nature: Timid / Modest
192 HP / 248 SpA / 4 SpD / 64 Spe
-Sunny Day
-Fire Blast / Flamethrower
-Solar Beam
-Morning Sun


If you then decide to use an Arcanine that is Physically Offensive:

Arcanine @ Life Orb
Nature: Jolly / Adamant
72 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD / 176 Spe
-Flare Blitz
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch/Wild Charge
-Close Combat/Morning Sun

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B2/W2 it can learn outrage

Two how can it learn Morning Sun?. I dont have the Espeon with it to breed

Any suitable substitution for Close Combat, Seemingly that needs to be bred as well?

Oh, it does now. o_o I haven't played much of B2/W2 yet, so my apologies.
Okay, to have it learn both Morning Sun and Close Combat...

Get a Male Smeargle and have it learn both Close Combat and Morning Sun via Sketch. Smeargle can't be caught in B2W2 iirc so you'll have to get one from BW or PokeTransfer from Gen IV Games.

To make it easier, breed Lucario with Arcanine. Both are in the ground egg group, I now have an adament Growlithe with Close Combat.

Eevee shouldn't be an issue, even with the mono-male in-game Eevee. You can breed for a female Growlithe, get Espeon and teach it Morning Sun, then have fun.

dragonnathan025 said:

To make it easier, breed Lucario with Arcanine. Both are in the ground egg group, I now have an adament Growlithe with Close Combat.

Eevee shouldn't be an issue, even with the mono-male in-game Eevee. You can breed for a female Growlithe, get Espeon and teach it Morning Sun, then have fun.

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But it won't learn both Close Combat and Morning Sun.

Ash493 said:

It will. If you use the one that has Close Combat in another breeding.

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Nope, it still will not.

Male Lucario w/ Close Combat + Female Growlithe
--Growlithe with CC

Male Espeon with Morning Sun + Female Growlithe
--Growlithe with Morning Sun

Growlithe with CC + Growlithe with Morning Sun
--Growlithe with CC or Morning Sun

Egg moves are passed down only by Male Pokemons; the Females, regardless of how many possible egg moves they have, will not pass down Egg Moves.

Best bet will be Smeargle.