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Old February 22nd, 2012 (6:56 AM).
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    Hello, I'm new to competitive battles, so I hope I could win with my team. I made it on Pokemon Online.

    Bisharp
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    SpAttk:252 Sp:144 Def:52 SpDef:60
    -Stealth Rock
    -Thunder Wave
    -Focus Blast
    -Grass Knot

    Charizard
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    SpAttk:224 Spd: 172 SpDef:88 Def:24
    -Air Cutter
    -Twister
    -Incinerate
    -Ancient power

    Gallade
    @wise glasses ;Modest
    SpAttk:252 Spd:228 Def:20 SpDef:8
    -Shadow Ball
    -Psyshock
    -Wacuum Wave
    -Shock Wave

    These would be my Special Attackers. They are decent in strength and Gallade is the strongest of this portion of the team. I focused more on offenses than defenses but I gave them some defense EVs. Reason why they are Special is because they could learn so many Special moves, so I didn't want to waste their poetenal.

    Tho Bisharp acts as a defensive Pokemon, she still has some power to take down another Pokemon.

    Knuckles (Sawk)
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    Attk:252 Spd:156 SpDef:60 Def:40
    -Karate Chop
    -Payback
    -Bulldoze
    -Retaliate

    Espio (Throh)
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    Attk:252 Sp:120 Def:136
    -Earthquake
    -Stone edge
    -Vital Throw
    -Poison Jab

    Gothitelle
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    Attk:252 Spd:252 SpDef:4
    -Rock Slide
    -Brick Beak
    -Low Sweep
    -Faint Attack

    And these are my Physical Attackers, they are the strongest Pokemon in the group and with so many great moves, I couldn't say no. Gothitelle is the strongest and the more skilled of the three.

    Here I focused more on offensives and speed since Physical Attackers are rather slow.
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    Old February 22nd, 2012 (7:24 AM). Edited February 22nd, 2012 by Forever.
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    Okay so Bisharp is terrible specially, while has great attack, you're better off making it physically based.

    The main Bisharp set is entirely physical, being this.

    [email protected] Orb / Leftovers
    Defiant
    252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    Adamant
    - Swords Dance
    - Sucker Punch
    - Brick Break / Iron Head
    - Night Slash

    The set allows it to have two strong STAB attacks (for attacking first etc, which can be useful and it a chance to boost them, and possibly a secondary STAB in Iron Head if you want).

    If you want a dark special attacker though, I do suggest going with Hydreigon, and going with another steel type - possibly replacing one of your fighting types in order to help out Hydreigon - though beware that'd put you in OU, however you can just swap Gothitelle & Bisharp if you want, but as it is you're in UU where not everything is necessarily useful.

    Charizard mainly fits best on teams with sun in play (though it can work w/o it but I personally think it's best w/ that), so if you want another strong fire type, you could always try out Heatran which works well without fire and can set up SR for you.

    [email protected] Orb / Air Balloon
    Flash Fire
    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Modest / Timid
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
    - Stealth Rock

    It allows you to absorb fire attacks on Bisharp if you intend to keep it, hit other Heatran w/ Earth Power, hit everything else w/ Fire Blast or Hidden Power Ice/Grass to attack dragons or water types.

    However if you wish to stay in UU, you can go for Victini (and its special set, considering Charizard is apart of your special line-up):

    [email protected] Orb / Expert Belt
    Victory Star
    4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid/Naive
    - Psychic
    - Grass Knot
    - Focus Blast
    - V-create / Fire Blast

    Having three fighting types isn't necessary, because you're really weak to psychic attacks (except for Gallade but still weak to flying). ;x

    For Gallade (just editing this in @ now since the post after me didn't cover this) is best off going with these sets (aka physical) as Musica mentioned.

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    Steadfast
    240 HP / 224 SpD / 44 Spe
    Careful
    - Bulk Up
    - Drain Punch
    - Shadow Sneak / Night Slash
    - Substitute / Taunt

    Or

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    Justified / Steadfast
    4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant / Jolly
    - Swords Dance
    - Close Combat
    - Shadow Sneak
    - Zen Headbutt / Night Slash / Ice Punch

    For Gothitelle, it's actually specially-based rather than physical, due to again, its terrible physical movepool. ;x If you still wanna use it, go with this:

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    Frisk
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Hidden Power Fighting
    - Dark Pulse

    Calm Mind allows you to boost your attacks, fighting allows you to hit dark types and dark pulse allows you to hit ghost/psychic types that may switch in.

    As for Throh/Sawk I suggest you reconsider them otherwise you're weak to psychic/flying unnecessarily (and the fact that they're sorta... similar yet not really if that makes sense + you don't really need two fighting types) but if not then I'll rate (or someone else) those too. :3

    Alsooo we need abilities too, so editing those in would be a good thing.
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    Old February 22nd, 2012 (7:25 AM).
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      Originally Posted by Gothitelle. View Post
      Hello, I'm new to competitive battles, so I hope I could win with my team. I made it on Pokemon Online.

      Bisharp
      @wide lens ;Modest
      SpAttk:252 Sp:144 Def:52 SpDef:60
      -Stealth Rock
      -Thunder Wave
      -Focus Blast
      -Grass Knot

      Bisharp is better off with an Adamant Nature because it has crap Sp.Att.
      It can act as a defensive Pokemon with an Impish Nature, but it still has low HP that doesn't go well for defenses.

      Bisharp @ Life Orb / Leftovers
      Adamant | Defiant
      252 HP 252 Att 4 Spe - It wouldn't outspeed anything so just make it bulky enough to last.
      ~Swords Dance
      ~Sucker Punch
      ~Iron Head
      ~Brick Break / Night Slash

      Charizard
      @wise glasses ;Modest
      SpAttk:224 Spd: 172 SpDef:88 Def:24
      -Air Cutter
      -Twister
      -Incinerate
      -Ancient power

      Charizard is better off with Life Orb or Choice Specs. It has mediocre defenses and HP, so it is better to make it an attacking Pokemon.
      Charizard @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
      Timid | Blaze
      252 Sp.Att. 252 Speed 4 Def
      ~Air Cutter
      ~Flamethrower for Accuracy / Fireblast for Power
      ~Focus Blast
      ~Hidden Power Grass

      Gallade
      @wise glasses ;Modest
      SpAttk:252 Spd:228 Def:20 SpDef:8
      -Shadow Ball
      -Psyshock
      -Wacuum Wave
      -Shock Wave


      Gallade has the same verdict with Bisharp. If you want a Psychic special attacker, use Gardevoir. Also, three special attackers within a team isn't going to work out well. You need balance in your teams.


      These would be my Special Attackers. They are decent in strength and Gallade is the strongest of this portion of the team. I focused more on offenses than defenses but I gave them some defense EVs. Reason why they are Special is because they could learn so many Special moves, so I didn't want to waste their poetenal.

      Tho Bisharp acts as a defensive Pokemon, she still has some power to take down another Pokemon.

      Knuckles (Sawk)
      @rocky helmet ;Adamant
      Attk:252 Spd:156 SpDef:60 Def:40
      -Karate Chop
      -Payback
      -Bulldoze
      -Retaliate

      Espio (Throh)
      @rocky helmet ;Adamant
      Attk:252 Sp:120 Def:136
      -Earthquake
      -Stone edge
      -Vital Throw
      -Poison Jab

      Gothitelle
      @muscle band ;Adamant
      Attk:252 Spd:252 SpDef:4
      -Rock Slide
      -Brick Beak
      -Low Sweep
      -Faint Attack

      And these are my Physical Attackers, they are the strongest Pokemon in the group and with so many great moves, I couldn't say no. Gothitelle is the strongest and the more skilled of the three.

      Here I focused more on offensives and speed since Physical Attackers are rather slow.
      First, your team needs a bit more of balance. Also, you should also try to know what each Pokemon can really do since you confuse some of the Pokemons with monster Attack to be a Special Attacker. The usual Pokemon team is composed of the following.

      1. Lead - Entry-hazard placer, Attacking Leads, Dual Screeners, and a lot more.

      2. Physical Sweeper - name speaks for itself, but some are fast killers, boosters, and some are even slow sweepers.

      3. Special Sweeper - same with #2.

      4. Cleric/Utility - Wish, Aromatherapy, Heal Bell, Hazer, Pseudo-hazer, Rapid Spinner

      5. Physical / Special Wall - Bulky pokemons to sponge damage

      6. Revenge Killer - name speaks for itself, usually equipped with a choice scarf.

      You may want to know more about the Pokemon you want to use by studying their base stats and know what role they play in competitive battling,
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      Old February 22nd, 2012 (5:06 PM).
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      Agreeing with whatever Musica said.

      Anyway, here are my own 2 cents (this looks like a UU team to me, so I'll rate it as such):

      If you're using a Special Flying STAB on Charizard, use Air Slash. It's a bit stronger than Air Cutter and can sometimes flinch (even though 75 BP is somewhat mediocre).

      If you're using Gallade, here are some options:
      -Bulk Up
      -Drain Punch
      -Shadow Sneak/X-Scissor/Night Slash
      -Ice Punch/Stone Edge
      Nature: Adamant
      EVs: 252 HP/68 Atk/188 Spe
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Steadfast

      or
      -Swords Dance
      -Close Combat
      -Ice Punch/Stone Edge
      -Shadow Sneak/Night Slash
      Nature: Adamant/Jolly
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb

      or
      -Close Combat
      -Zen Headbutt/Night Slash
      -Ice Punch/Stone Edge
      -Trick
      Nature: Adamant/Jolly
      EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
      Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

      Since you already have a Fighting Pokemon in Gallade, how about replacing Throh and Sawk with something else, like Milotic or Mismagius?:

      Milotic:
      -Scald
      -Ice Beam
      -Toxic/Haze/Dragon Tail
      -Recover
      Nature: Bold
      EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Marvel Scale

      Mismagius:
      -Nasty Plot
      -Shadow Ball
      -Hidden Power (Fighting)/Thunderbolt
      -Taunt/Substitute
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
      Item: Life Orb

      or
      -Substitute
      -Calm Mind
      -Shadow Ball
      -Hidden Power (Fighting)
      Nature: Timid
      EVs: 160 HP/96 SAtk/252 Spe
      Item: Leftovers

      You already have a Psychic Pokemon in Gallade (once again), so how about replacing Gothitelle with Roserade as your hazard setter? (Gothitelle is badly outclassed by other Psychic Pokemon):
      -Spikes
      -Giga Drain
      -Sludge Bomb
      -Rest
      Nature: Calm
      EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef
      Item: Leftovers
      Ability: Natural Cure
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      Old February 22nd, 2012 (7:58 PM).
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        The suggestions are great. I want to point out that I really really REALLY do not want to replace my main Pokemon. She's my favorite. I know you all think she's horrible but I don't so... yeah.
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        Old February 22nd, 2012 (10:32 PM).
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          Gothitelle has its ups and downs too, you know.
          It has bad speed but decent defense, decent special attack, and very good special defense. If you really want Gothitelle in your party, it can run a Calm Mind Set, Dual Screener Set, and Trick Room Set. Mirror Coat deserves a special mention because of its high Sp.Def. which can be a switch-in to Special Attackers.

          Gothitelle @ Leftovers
          Calm (+SpD - Att)
          252 HP 252 SpDef 4 Def
          ~Mirror Coat
          ~Taunt
          ~Protect
          ~Thunder Wave / Toxic
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          Old February 24th, 2012 (3:01 AM).
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            You should use Sawk as a revenge killer(Choice Sarfed).
            I used to use it in Random Matchup a while ago and it literally outsped everyone.

            Jolly and 252 investment in Speed= around 269-295 + A Choice Scarf and at least 349 Attack made it a superb revenge killer in my UU team. (:
             

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