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Old May 20th, 2012 (3:41 PM). Edited May 20th, 2012 by BeyondKey.
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    I actually just started so i dont really know how to build a team, so please help.
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    252 atk/ 252 spe/ 2 hp
    stealth rocks
    mach punch
    flare blitz
    he's my sucidial sweeper. not the best but i think it fits with my team (i could be very wrong)

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    252 atk/ 252 sp atk/ 4 spe
    dragon rush
    extreme speed
    aqua tail
    obviously he is the mixed sweeper. He ko's about two pokemon before he faints.

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    252 atk/ 252 def/ 4 hp
    icicle spear
    shell smash
    razor shell
    rapid spin
    he's my spinner and my physical tank, but he faints quickly sometimes

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    serene grace
    252 hp/ 128 def/ 128 sp def
    Chansey is an amazing wall and turned out to be an excellent staller. Plus serene grace+blizzard is a good combo

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    magic guard
    252 hp/ 252 def/ 4 sp atk
    focus blast
    this is my special tank.

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    quick feet
    128 hp/ 252 sp atk/ 128 spe
    volt switch
    My jolteon was really meant to be a wisher, roar the opponent, and be a tank, but it turned out to be a really good special sweeper.

    I think i lose more battles than win. I will do anything to improve my team.

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    Old May 20th, 2012 (4:44 PM).
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    If you wanted a mixed Dragonite, that really... isn't appropriate without rain to help it out - sure wide lens helps accuracy, but with so many attacks low on accuracy it isn't really as effective. :( You're better off going for the safer mixed version:

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    252 Atk / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
    - Draco Meteor
    - Fire Blast
    - Superpower / Brick Break
    - ExtremeSpeed / Roost

    Which is higher accuracy and higher power, plus your old set had no coverage against steels.

    Jolteon isn't really an appropriate tank because of its defenses and such, are you playing on PO or in-game? If on PO, replace Wish with HP ice so you can hit ground/dragon, and shadow ball for extra coverage. Volt absorb is also the superior ability since... yeah, already fast.

    On Chansey, the accuracy of those attacks is pretty poor outside of the appropriate weather.

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    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    - Wish
    - Protect / Softboiled
    - Seismic Toss
    - Toxic

    If you want something to abuse serene grace, try Jirachi or Togekiss instead.

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    Old May 20th, 2012 (5:01 PM). Edited May 20th, 2012 by PlatinumDude.
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    I can see where you're going with suicide lead Infernape, but Endure doesn't gel well with Flare Blitz because the recoil will shave off its last remaining HP. You're better off using this set:
    -Fake Out
    -Stealth Rock
    -Fire Blast
    -Close Combat
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 64 Atk/252 SAtk/192 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash

    -Stealth Rock
    -Fire Blast/Overheat
    -Vacuum Wave
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash

    To elaborate on what Nica said about Chansey, it doesn't do well offensively because of its very, very low Special Attack.

    And to add to what she said about Jolteon, Vaporeon is a better Wish supporter than Jolteon is. You can use Vaporeon if you want to continue supporting the team with Wish:
    -Toxic/Ice Beam/Roar
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb

    For Cloyster, don't max out its Defense without maxing out its HP first because doing so would make its bulk ineffective. Your current set looks like a sweeper set, so use Shell Smash instead of Rapid Spin and change the EV spread to 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe and the nature to Jolly.

    If you want to use Cloyster to Rapid Spin, then change the set to this:
    -Icicle Spear
    -Rapid Spin
    -Spikes/Toxic Spikes
    -Surf/Ice Shard
    Nature: Relaxed/Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/84 Atk/176 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Skill Link

    Old May 20th, 2012 (7:16 PM).
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      I tried out what both of you guys said and wow i won my battles in a landslide. Thanks

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