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OU Sand Team Help

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    Ive been through a few variations on this team, and this is what im using now. Im looking for help with coverage options, glaring weaknesses im not seeing, and maybe some help with better EV spreads. This is my first real trying-to-be-competitive team and i have lots of battle experience but not much building experience. I Appreciate any help i can get. Thanks!!
    This is the team:

    Kaiju (Tyranitar) @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Stone Edge
    - Crunch
    - Pursuit
    - Earthquake
    This is my main Charizard Y Check. I used a different form o this team and Charizard Y just Annihilated me. Also just a great SpD wall that hits decently hard.

    Greenlake (Excadrill) @ Rockium Z
    Ability: Sand Rush
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Iron Head
    Main physical sweeper. i have mo problems with this set. It's fully capable of sweeping through a team.

    Your Mom (Hippowdon) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Slack Off
    Physical Pivot, Stealth rocker. I used the standard spread.

    Harrier II (Celesteela) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Beast Boost
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Giga Drain
    - Air Slash / Flamethrower
    - Flash Cannon
    - Autotomize
    Primary Special sweeper, im not to sure what the best coverage for the meta is.

    Rotom-Wash @ Safety Goggles
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 248 HP / 240 Def / 20 Spe
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Volt Switch
    - Hydro Pump
    - Pain Split
    - Will-O-Wisp
    Another Pivot with the standard spread. Main ground type check.

    Cinnabar (Volcanion) @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Steam Eruption
    - Sludge Wave
    Just here to hit hard and cover some glaring weknesse to fire and a water immunity.
     

    Sirfetch’d

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    I don't think AV is a great item on Tyranitar. Choice Scarf, Choice Band, and Smooth Rock are all generally better options. You could even replace Tyranitar or Hippowdon with something else as they have similar weaknesses and you don't really need 2 sand setters, IMO.

    Also Safety Goggles is probably a poor choice of an item in general, especially for Rotom. You will find leftovers much more beneficial on this mon.

    The rest of your mons seem fine. I think Celesteela is better with Leftovers and a more defensive set, but a specially offensive one could work I suppose.
     
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    I don't think AV is a great item on Tyranitar. Choice Scarf, Choice Band, and Smooth Rock are all generally better options. You could even replace Tyranitar or Hippowdon with something else as they have similar weaknesses and you don't really need 2 sand setters, IMO.

    Also Safety Goggles is probably a poor choice of an item in general, especially for Rotom. You will find leftovers much more beneficial on this mon.

    The rest of your mons seem fine. I think Celesteela is better with Leftovers and a more defensive set, but a specially offensive one could work I suppose.

    Thanks for your input! I really appreciate it. I was thinking defensive swords dance scizor. Here's the set

    Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 248 HP / 160 Def / 80 SpD / 20 Spe
    Impish Nature
    - U-turn
    - Swords Dance / defog
    - Bullet Punch
    - Roost

    I think that's a good replacement for hippo. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again.
     

    Sirfetch’d

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    Thanks for your input! I really appreciate it. I was thinking defensive swords dance scizor. Here's the set

    Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 248 HP / 160 Def / 80 SpD / 20 Spe
    Impish Nature
    - U-turn
    - Swords Dance / defog
    - Bullet Punch
    - Roost

    I think that's a good replacement for hippo. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again.

    That could work, you'll want a Defogger or Spinner on your team considering you have a Choice locked Volcanion that will be switching out a lot.
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Steelium Z is better over Rockium Z on Excadrill, as Corkscrew Crash hits physically bulky Pokemon like Buzzwole, Tangrowth, Hippowdon, and Amoonguss harder than Continental Crush would.

    Having only one of Tyranitar and Hippowdon is better because they share nasty Water and Grass weaknesses. I'd lean towards Tyranitar here because of its better power:
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch
    -Pursuit
    -Superpower/Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band (Adamant)/Choice Scarf (Jolly)
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Autotomize Celesteela doesn't really need Flash Cannon, as Air Slash already has good coverage on its own. Fire Blast is pretty much necessary on Autotomize Celesteela, as without it, Celesteela can't get past opposing Steel Pokemon like Scizor and Ferrothorn. Flynium Z is also an option on offensive Celesteela to help it nab the first Beast Boost and snowball from there. But this means changing Excadrill's item to Life Orb or Air Balloon:
    -Autotomize
    -Air Slash
    -Fire Blast
    -Giga Drain/Earthquake
    Nature: Modest/Rash
    EVs: 84 HP/252 SAtk/172 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    IMO, I think Tapu Fini should be this team's Defogger, as opting for Scizor will add another unwanted Fire weakness to the team on top of Celesteela and Excadrill:
    -Moonblast
    -Nature's Madness
    -Taunt
    -Defog
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/192 Def/16 SDef/52 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Replace Hippowdon with Garchomp, as it doesn't stack weaknesses with Tyranitar and can exert enough offensive pressure to get Stealth Rock up:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast/Swords Dance
    Nature: Naive/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry/Focus Sash

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Dragon Tail
    -Earthquake
    -Toxic/Fire Blast
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 240 HP/176 Def/92 Spe
    Item: Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Rough Skin
     
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