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Ab$ol

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    • So my friend keeps beating me with his 5/6 IV pokemon because I usually collect shinies, and I even use legendaries and stuff. The rules I need to follow are no Uber's and a double battle. Can you guys help me build a solid team that can perform really well together with pokemon that are all very good? I plan on IV breeding but I need to know my team first.
    Things to think about:
    -items to use
    -movesets
    -pokemon (obviously)
    -natures of pokemon
    -different strategies I could go by
     

    zygardian harbinger

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    If you can give us any idea of what to work with, we'll be glad to help you out. But we can't build your team for you, because then it won't really be your team...
     

    MoxieInfinite

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    • Steal ♥♥♥♥ from Smogon RMT's to get a grasp of whats going on to begin with. Doubles is not that hard to begin with tbh, I peaked #54 on the ladder having never played doubles before that day :toast:
     

    Ab$ol

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    • Yeah sorry it took me a while but I read up on smogon. I would like suggestions based on the pokemon I listed, and any others that you guys think would fight well with pokemon I've listed. and here are some pokemon I have in mind of using:
    -garchomp
    -flygon
    -Metagross
    -absol
    -latios
    -lucario
    -alakazam
    -gengar
    -luxray
    -scizor
    -gyarados
    -arcanine
    -spiritomb
    -blaziken
    -wailord
     

    PlatinumDude

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    • Ab$ol said:
    Yeah sorry it took me a while but I read up on smogon. I would like suggestions based on the pokemon I listed, and any others that you guys think would fight well with pokemon I've listed. and here are some pokemon I have in mind of using:
    -garchomp
    -flygon
    -Metagross
    -absol
    -latios
    -lucario
    -alakazam
    -gengar
    -luxray
    -scizor
    -gyarados
    -arcanine
    -spiritomb
    -blaziken
    -wailord
    Click to expand...
    Some of these Pokemon aren't viable, especially Luxray and Wailord; there are Pokemon out there who do their roles better. Anyway:

    Garchomp:
    -Swords Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Fire Fang
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

    or
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide/Stone Edge
    -Dragon Claw/Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast/Swords Dance
    Nature: Naive/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash/Rocky Helmet/Lum Berry

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Dragon Tail
    -Earthquake
    -Toxic/Fire Blast
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Rough Skin

    Flygon (Noivern and Garchomp do what it can do better):
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -U-turn
    -Fire Punch/Defog/Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

    or
    -Earthquake
    -U-turn
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP/16 Atk/104 Def/136 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Metagross:
    -Meteor Mash
    -Zen Headbutt
    -Earthquake
    -Pursuit
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Clear Body

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Meteor Mash
    -Earthquake
    -Zen Headbutt/Pursuit/Trick
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Leftovers/Iron Ball
    Ability: Clear Body

    Absol:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Knock Off/Night Slash
    -Fire Blast/Ice Beam
    -Superpower/Pursuit/Play Rough
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck/Justified

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Knock Off/Night Slash
    -Baton Pass/Play Rough
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck/Justified

    Latios:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Psyshock
    -Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fighting)/Earthquake
    -Roost/Recover/Defog
    Nature: Timid/Hasty
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Lucario:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Extreme Speed
    -Iron Tail/Crunch/Earthquake/Ice Punch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lucarionite

    or (in Wi-Fi battles only)
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Flash Cannon
    -Vacuum Wave/Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Lucarionite
    Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

    Alakazam:
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball/Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Focus Blast
    -Taunt
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Alakazite
    Ability: Magic Guard

    or
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    -Thunder Wave/Dazzling Gleam/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Magic Guard

    Gengar:
    -Substitute
    -Shadow Ball
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Disable/Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave/Focus Blast/Taunt
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 28 HP/148 SAtk/80 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Focus Blast/Thunderbolt
    -Destiny Bond
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    Luxray:
    -Wild Charge
    -Superpower
    -Facade
    -Crunch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Flame Orb/Toxic Orb
    Ability: Guts

    or
    -Thunderbolt
    -Superpower
    -Volt Switch/Signal Beam
    -Hidden Power (Grass)
    Nature: Rash
    EVs: 60 Atk/252 SAtk/196 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate

    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Knock Off/Bug Bite/X-Scissor
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/44 Atk/116 Def/100 SDef
    Item: Scizorite
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Knock Off/Bug Bite/X-Scissor/U-turn
    -Superpower/Brick Break/U-turn
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Scizorite
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Bullet Punch
    -U-turn/Superpower/Knock Off
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Scizorite
    Ability: Technican

    or
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch
    -Superpower
    -Pursuit/Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Technician

    Gyarados:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Fang/Substitute/Taunt
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Gyaradosite
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Substitute/Taunt
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Bounce
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 88 HP/192 Atk/4 Def/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Waterfall
    -Roar/Dragon Tail/Dragon Dance
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Bounce
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

    Arcanine:
    -Flare Blitz
    -Extreme Speed
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Morning Sun
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Flare Blitz
    -Extreme Speed
    -Wild Charge/Close Combat
    -Morning Sun
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate/Flash Fire

    Spiritomb (keep it away from Fairies):
    -Sucker Punch
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Pursuit
    -Trick/Will-o-Wisp
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band/Black Glasses/Dread Plate

    or
    -Calm Mind
    -Dark Pulse
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Foul Play
    -Rest/Pain Split
    -Sleep Talk/Sucker Punch/Taunt
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure

    Blaziken:
    -Flare Blitz
    -High Jump Kick/Low Kick
    -Knock Off/Shadow Claw/Stone Edge/Protect
    -Swords Dance/Protect
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Blazikenite
    Ability: Speed Boost

    or
    -Flare Blitz
    -Substitute/Roar
    -Protect
    -Baton Pass
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Speed Boost

    Wailord:
    -Water Spout
    -Surf/Hydro Pump
    -Ice Beam
    -Hidden Power (Bug/Grass/Fire)
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 56 Def/252 SAtk/60 SDef/140 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Water Veil/Pressure
     

    Ab$ol

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    • PlatinumDude said:
    Some of these Pokemon aren't viable, especially Luxray and Wailord; there are Pokemon out there who do their roles better. Anyway:

    Garchomp:
    -Swords Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Fire Fang
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

    or
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide/Stone Edge
    -Dragon Claw/Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast/Swords Dance
    Nature: Naive/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash/Rocky Helmet/Lum Berry

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Dragon Tail
    -Earthquake
    -Toxic/Fire Blast
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Rough Skin

    Flygon (Noivern and Garchomp do what it can do better):
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -U-turn
    -Fire Punch/Defog/Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

    or
    -Earthquake
    -U-turn
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 HP/16 Atk/104 Def/136 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Metagross:
    -Meteor Mash
    -Zen Headbutt
    -Earthquake
    -Pursuit
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Clear Body

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Meteor Mash
    -Earthquake
    -Zen Headbutt/Pursuit/Trick
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Leftovers/Iron Ball
    Ability: Clear Body

    Absol:
    -Sucker Punch
    -Knock Off/Night Slash
    -Fire Blast/Ice Beam
    -Superpower/Pursuit/Play Rough
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck/Justified

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Sucker Punch
    -Knock Off/Night Slash
    -Baton Pass/Play Rough
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Absolite
    Ability: Super Luck/Justified

    Latios:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Psyshock
    -Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fighting)/Earthquake
    -Roost/Recover/Defog
    Nature: Timid/Hasty
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    Lucario:
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Extreme Speed
    -Iron Tail/Crunch/Earthquake/Ice Punch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lucarionite

    or (in Wi-Fi battles only)
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Flash Cannon
    -Vacuum Wave/Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Lucarionite
    Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

    Alakazam:
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball/Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Focus Blast
    -Taunt
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Alakazite
    Ability: Magic Guard

    or
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    -Thunder Wave/Dazzling Gleam/Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Magic Guard

    Gengar:
    -Substitute
    -Shadow Ball
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Disable/Sludge Bomb/Sludge Wave/Focus Blast/Taunt
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 28 HP/148 SAtk/80 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Focus Blast/Thunderbolt
    -Destiny Bond
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    Luxray:
    -Wild Charge
    -Superpower
    -Facade
    -Crunch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Flame Orb/Toxic Orb
    Ability: Guts

    or
    -Thunderbolt
    -Superpower
    -Volt Switch/Signal Beam
    -Hidden Power (Grass)
    Nature: Rash
    EVs: 60 Atk/252 SAtk/196 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate

    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Knock Off/Bug Bite/X-Scissor
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/44 Atk/116 Def/100 SDef
    Item: Scizorite
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Knock Off/Bug Bite/X-Scissor/U-turn
    -Superpower/Brick Break/U-turn
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Scizorite
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Bullet Punch
    -U-turn/Superpower/Knock Off
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Scizorite
    Ability: Technican

    or
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch
    -Superpower
    -Pursuit/Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Technician

    Gyarados:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Fang/Substitute/Taunt
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Gyaradosite
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Substitute/Taunt
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Bounce
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 88 HP/192 Atk/4 Def/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Waterfall
    -Roar/Dragon Tail/Dragon Dance
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Bounce
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

    Arcanine:
    -Flare Blitz
    -Extreme Speed
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Morning Sun
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate

    or
    -Flare Blitz
    -Extreme Speed
    -Wild Charge/Close Combat
    -Morning Sun
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate/Flash Fire

    Spiritomb (keep it away from Fairies):
    -Sucker Punch
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Pursuit
    -Trick/Will-o-Wisp
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band/Black Glasses/Dread Plate

    or
    -Calm Mind
    -Dark Pulse
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Foul Play
    -Rest/Pain Split
    -Sleep Talk/Sucker Punch/Taunt
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure

    Blaziken:
    -Flare Blitz
    -High Jump Kick/Low Kick
    -Knock Off/Shadow Claw/Stone Edge/Protect
    -Swords Dance/Protect
    Nature: Jolly/Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Blazikenite
    Ability: Speed Boost

    or
    -Flare Blitz
    -Substitute/Roar
    -Protect
    -Baton Pass
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Speed Boost

    Wailord:
    -Water Spout
    -Surf/Hydro Pump
    -Ice Beam
    -Hidden Power (Bug/Grass/Fire)
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 56 Def/252 SAtk/60 SDef/140 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs
    Ability: Water Veil/Pressure
    Click to expand...

    Thanks! The movesets help a lot, but I'd still like to know more about how to strategically match some of these movesets where they will compliment each other.
     

    PlatinumDude

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    • Ab$ol said:
    Thanks! The movesets help a lot, but I'd still like to know more about how to strategically match some of these movesets where they will compliment each other.
    Click to expand...

    I'll give you a couple examples:
    -Scizor pairs well with Latios because they cover each other's weaknesses (Scizor has Fire as its only weakness and resists all of Latios' weaknesses; Latios resists Scizor's Fire weakness). Defog Latios also gets rid of entry hazards so that Choice Band Scizor has an easier time getting in and out of the field, since hazards will wear Scizor down if it keeps coming in and out with U-turn.
    -Latios' Defog support also helps Gyarados, since Gyarados is weak to Stealth Rock.
     

    srinator

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    Uh since no one said this before, since this is a doubles battle you need to explore some creative options to like discharge rod or surf drain. There are many techniques people use during doubles battle to take advantage of the format, like use beat up on ur own justified partner to give it a massive attack boost or using discharge to heal or increase attack.even moves that always crit are useful since u can use it on anger point mons.
    The landorus thundurus pair is also very effective with eq rock slide and discharge hitting both of ur opponents mons. Doubles is a fun meta, have fun.
     
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