OS Ash vs BW Ash Who's The Better Trainer

And I mean both OS and BW Ash at there peak.

And for OS Ash its Kanto+OI+Johto

OS but just because he didn't lose his knowledge after D&P and wasn't boring like Best Wishes.

OS Ash was much better and interesting then the AG Ash/DP Ash/BW Ash put together.

Definitely OS Ash. BW Ash acted more like Homer Simpson.

OS Ash for me, BW Ash lost to basically two Pokemon against Cameron which was embarrassing. Any other Ash would have won that battle with wits.

Since this includes Johto Ash, I voted for OS Ash. Had it been only Kanto Ash, then I probably would've voted for BW Ash, even if he was indeed awful.

Problem with Original series Ash is that he has the habit of releasing his powerful pokemon or leaving them in training.

If i can pretend that those never happened then OS Ash would win against BW Ash.

However if OS Ash, without Charizard and others that were left in training/released, then BW Ash would win.

Alexander18 said:

Problem with Original series Ash is that he has the habit of releasing his powerful pokemon or leaving them in training.

If i can pretend that those never happened then OS Ash would win against BW Ash.

However if OS Ash, without Charizard and others that were left in training/released, then BW Ash would win.

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OS Ash is Kanto+OI+Jotho so he still has stronger pokemon than BW Ash.

SH60 said:

OS Ash is Kanto+OI+Jotho so he still has stronger pokemon than BW Ash.

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If that means Ash no longer has Charizard and others, then OS Ash would lose. His johto team is not good enough against BW team in my opinion.

Alexander18 said:

If that means Ash no longer has Charizard and others, then OS Ash would lose. His johto team is not good enough against BW team in my opinion.

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It means he has access to every Pokemon he caught from those three regions.

BW Ash for me.

If this is Indigo League Ash, then he has no chance imo. Charizard wouldn't obey him to start with. BW Pikachu> OS Pikachu
Unfezant=Pidgeot
Squirtle>Oshawott
Pignite>Bulbasaur
Muk>Snivy
Krookdile>OS Charizard (Even if Charizard obeys Ash, Krookdile still wins.)

Now if this is BW Ash vs OS Johto Ash then the latter stomps.

Kuzehiko said:

BW Ash for me.

If this is Indigo League Ash, then he has no chance imo. Charizard wouldn't obey him to start with. BW Pikachu> OS Pikachu
Unfezant=Pidgeot
Squirtle>Oshawott
Pignite>Bulbasaur
Muk>Snivy
Krookdile>OS Charizard (Even if Charizard obeys Ash, Krookdile still wins.)

Now if this is BW Ash vs OS Johto Ash then the latter stomps.

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For OS Ash its Kanto+OI+Johto

SH60 said:

For OS Ash its Kanto+OI+Johto

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Oh, you didn't specify so I wasn't sure, lol.
I clearly said OS johto Ash wins then since he can access his strongest Pokemon from Kanto. Although he wins he'll have a hard time.

FireSnow said:

It means he has access to every Pokemon he caught from those three regions.

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Alexander18 said:

If that means Ash no longer has Charizard and others, then OS Ash would lose. His johto team is not good enough against BW team in my opinion.

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His Johto team is really good battlers and i'm sure they would win against the Unova team. OS Ash grow as a really strong Pokemon trainer and that's because he train in two regions instead of one. Kanto/Johto did his character justice, Hoenn/Sinnoh turn him into a battle drone without any good character development.

FireSnow said:

It means he has access to every Pokemon he caught from those three regions.

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Except that when he is in Johto, he has a team of unevolved Johto. The rest are either released, in training or at oaks lab.

Piii said:

His Johto team is really good battlers and i'm sure they would win against the Unova team. OS Ash grow as a really strong Pokemon trainer and that's because he train in two regions instead of one. Kanto/Johto did his character justice, Hoenn/Sinnoh turn him into a battle drone without any good character development.

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The johto team is a joke. None are fully evolved. Ash has at least three fully evolved Unova pokemon.

Alexander18 said:

Except that when he is in Johto, he has a team of unevolved Johto. The rest are either released, in training or at oaks lab.


The johto team is a joke. None are fully evolved. Ash has at least three fully evolved Unova pokemon.

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1. That only means that he needs to access the rest via whoever's training them or Oaks Lab to get them, and do I really have to remind you that one of Ash's Pokemon in Unova was explicitly one of those "in training" Pokemon, Charizard?

2. Ah, so? Ash's Kanto team was largely left unevolved as well, with only Charizard and possibly Kingler actually fully evolving. I don't recall evolution being a reason to assume they must be better. And for the record, OS includes not just Johto, but also the Orange Islands and Kanto. And overall, another reason why OS is better is because we actually SEE Ash progress, unlike Unova where he if anything regressed.

weedle_mchairybug said:

1. That only means that he needs to access the rest via whoever's training them or Oaks Lab to get them, and do I really have to remind you that one of Ash's Pokemon in Unova was explicitly one of those "in training" Pokemon, Charizard?

2. Ah, so? Ash's Kanto team was largely left unevolved as well, with only Charizard and possibly Kingler actually fully evolving. I don't recall evolution being a reason to assume they must be better. And for the record, OS includes not just Johto, but also the Orange Islands and Kanto. And overall, another reason why OS is better is because we actually SEE Ash progress, unlike Unova where he if anything regressed.

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Well i have a different view on the matter. If OS Ash uses a team of Pikachu, Charizard, Snorelax, Kingler and Muk then he would win. However that is simply my opinion.

Alexander18 said:

Well i have a different view on the matter. If OS Ash uses a team of Pikachu, Charizard, Snorelax, Kingler and Muk then he would win. However that is simply my opinion.

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Alexander18 said:

Except that when he is in Johto, he has a team of unevolved Johto. The rest are either released, in training or at oaks lab.


The johto team is a joke. None are fully evolved. Ash has at least three fully evolved Unova pokemon.

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The Johto team is not a joke. The Johto was unevolved for a good reason, it was to show that Ash can raise strong Pokemon without them having to evolve, the Johto team did have some really great battling time, they were pretty strong. The Kanto team was also unevolved and they turn out to be really good battlers, the OS wasn't about evolving every single Pokemon, it was to show how good a Pokemon trainer can raise Pokemon and bond with them, that's one of the reasons why the OS was consider to be the best.

The only pokemon that did evolve in the OS was Charizard, Kingler, and Bayleef.

OS help Ash character to developed perfectly well, Sinnoh didn't do Ash's character any justice since he only developed in one region instead of two regions.

Piii said:

The Johto team is not a joke. The Johto was unevolved for a good reason, it was to show that Ash can raise strong Pokemon without them having to evolve, the Johto team did have some really great battling time, they were pretty strong. The Kanto team was also unevolved and they turn out to be really good battlers, the OS wasn't about evolving every single Pokemon, it was to show how good a Pokemon trainer can raise Pokemon and bond with them, that's one of the reasons why the OS was consider to be the best.

The only pokemon that did evolve in the OS was Charizard, Kingler, and Bayleef.

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It was only my opinion. To me, Johto was not good. You forgot that Ash fully evolved Caterpie although it is released.

Alexander18 said:

Well i have a different view on the matter. If OS Ash uses a team of Pikachu, Charizard, Snorelax, Kingler and Muk then he would win. However that is simply my opinion.

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Alexander18 said:

It was only my opinion. To me, Johto was not good. You forgot that Ash fully evolved Caterpie although it is released.

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That is your opinion. To me his Johto team was good. I kinda forgot he did have a fully evolved Butterfree but he let it go so it could mate. He did caught Pokemon in their evolve forms Pidgeotto, exempt Muk and Primeape were already fully evolved when Ash caught them. Pidgeotto was caught in it's middle stage and it evolved into Pidgeot to protect the Pidgeys and Pidgeottos, after that it left Ash's team for good.