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Moved or Closed Threads

Aurafire

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    This is just something I've been noticing lately, but if a thread gets locked or moved from one place to another, it still shows up where it was originally posted. In places like DPP, this makes for a lot of closed or moved threads and not a lot of open ones, which really start to clutter things up.

    I've seen threads that have been totally removed from a forum for what ever reason. Shouldn't this apply to threads that have been moved or closed? It would certainly created much more room for threads of actual value and make the forums look better overall.

    I don't exactly know how everything works behind the scenes or what happens with locked or moved threads, so if it's impossible to remove them after that, that's perfectly fine. ^_^
     
    The threads eventually go into more further section of the certain forum like page two and so on,after we start to get more threads in any certain area of the forum,so I don't know how it's clutter,eventually like mainly every other forums, prunes out old posts if I'm correct.
     
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    Pokemon_Fan14 said:
    The threads eventually go into more further section of the certain forum like page two and so on,after we start to get more threads in any certain area of the forum,so I don't know how it's clutter,eventually like mainly every other forum, prunes out old posts if I'm correct.
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    I understand your point, but take a look at the first page of DPP and tell me that's not cluttered. The majority of the threads are either closed or moved, leaving no room for topics of actual value.

    I know how the system works: Lock threads and they die. but when there are so many threads that need to be locked they begin to pile up.
     
    Noticed recently? That's the entire way DPt has worked for a long time. We had a thread like this in the past, the whole "more free threads in DPt" suggestion, people frustrated over threads getting pushed off the front page, etc. Redirects are given from moved threads, obviously. And locked are locked. Deleting them (which is part of your "removed for what reason") is the severe or pure spam reason, so deleting them isn't the solution if that's what you're suggesting. It's DPt, there won't be a time where locked threads go away, or moved threads don't happen. They'll only get pushed off the front page like any other forum. Numerous people break the rules or don't notice the Q&A stickie, and that's just how it works. Redirects eventually expire though, and it's best to leave the redirect, rather than not leaving one. Because the confusion caused from no redirect can get messy.

    Moderated threads for the DPt forum are out of the question, too, as Haruki Hanai said back then. As it goes against the backbone of the forum. So before someone suggests that, no.

    What would I suggest, live with the "clutter." Want to keep actual value threads in the light? Post in 'um. CME and Deano are doing the best they can, and it's how that forum operates, unfortunately. You can't stop those people that post in the wrong place (because it's a variety of countless people) or don't notice the stickies. Just how the forum runs.
     
    I guess that makes sense. I suppose we will just have to live with it if that's the way it's been in the past. It's just unfortunate that so many of those threads that get locked could easily have gone in the Q&A threads.
     
    Aurafire said:
    I guess that makes sense. I suppose we will just have to live with it if that's the way it's been in the past. It's just unfortunate that so many of those threads that get locked could easily have gone in the Q&A threads.
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    Yup, that's DPt. Many newbies (Not to be offensive to others) don't notice stuck threads and they get locked or merged. (which lead to a redirect, anyway) But really, there's nothing more that can be done, as far as I see. Just because of the onslaught of people that flock that section without reading and rushing to press that 'Create Thread' button. It's a tough forum, and the moderators Color Me Evil and DeanoDance are making it the best it really can be.

    *shrugs*
     
    I won't say much as I'll just be repeating what I said in the other thread that BeachBoy linked to. But it's not our fault; lock threads have to stay where they are and moved threads need redirects, otherwise members who posted them will wonder where they went, and more than likely post them again.

    We can't force people to read the stickies and announcments, but they should. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do.
     
    Oh no, I certainly wasn't passing any blame to either you or CME. You guys are doing great...I was just commenting on locked and moved threads and such. But I do see how removing them could create even more confusion, since people will wonder where their threads went.
     
    Aurafire said:
    Oh no, I certainly wasn't passing any blame to either you or CME. You guys are doing great...I was just commenting on locked and moved threads and such. But I do see how removing them could create even more confusion, since people will wonder where their threads went.
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    Another thing is that they (the locked threads) also teach some people of what NOT to post. And it helps people when they're searching for an answer. Deleting them only adds more negative than positive, in this case.
     
    Yeah...Now that I think about it, the constant influx of new members posting threads in the wrong spot is probably the general bulk of the problem. Most people should and do use the Q&A thread after a they post a thread with a simple question that gets locked. But new members, as you said BeachBoy, go right to posting instead of reading the stickies.

    But I can also see why some members are confused on where to post. They might not think of their questions as a simple Q&A matter and rather as one that is deserving of its own thread. People should make sure that their thread will promote discussion rather than just asking for answers to simple questions (Which is what the Q&A thread is for). But again....people don't read the stickies >.<
     
    Aurafire said:
    This is just something I've been noticing lately, but if a thread gets locked or moved from one place to another, it still shows up where it was originally posted. In places like DPP, this makes for a lot of closed or moved threads and not a lot of open ones, which really start to clutter things up.

    I've seen threads that have been totally removed from a forum for what ever reason. Shouldn't this apply to threads that have been moved or closed? It would certainly created much more room for threads of actual value and make the forums look better overall.

    I don't exactly know how everything works behind the scenes or what happens with locked or moved threads, so if it's impossible to remove them after that, that's perfectly fine. ^_^
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    I remember an option in an admin CP I've used being about whether moved threads have a link kept in the original area or not... It's nothing but the admin's or admin team's preference.

    As for locking instead of deleting, it's really just so you don't have to PM the thread's creator telling them why and appease whoever asks where the thread went, etc. It's easier for the moderator in charge and keeps everyone informed on what's happening to what. But the bottom line is again how the admin(s) wants the board run.
     
    You're right, we can choose not to add a re-direct to the moved/merged threads, but see my previous post for my reasoning why I don't like to not add re-directs.

    Aurafire, I know you weren't blaming us for anything. =D I was merely commenting that we do what we do because we have to, and doing things differently would cause more problems than it would solve.

    I hope I've helped to clear up your qualms.
     
    Of course =P...It's nice to view the situation from a moderators perspective, because most normal members just see all the locked threads and wonder what's going on. But I will certainly take your word for it if you think it would be more work than it's worth. ^_^
     
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