#$%@!♪♭ Vileplume, good enough, I guess...

sims796

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    Alright, I now have HP Ice Oddish. Good enough. Unfortunatley, these are his IV's:

    HP:19
    ATK:13
    DEF:9
    SP.A:31
    SP.D:7
    SPE:22
    Hid. Pow:ICE-66

    See? Decent, but I would have liked a bit more in def, and especially sp.def. This is his set:

    Vileplume@Black Sludge
    Nature:Calm
    Energy Ball
    Hidden Power [ICE]
    Aromatherapy
    Stun Spore
    EV:252 HP, 132 SP.DEF, 120 SP.ATK

    Due to poor IV's in sp.def, I must invest more IV's in that area. So, I can really use help in the EV part.

    I know these Plume threads of mine are getting annoying, but everyone can sympathize with me in Hidden Pow breeding. I wanted Rock, but settled for Ice. Ice can hurt opposing dragons. Plume is walled by Steel, but oh well. Can't hit everything.
     
    sims796 said:
    Alright, I now have HP Ice Oddish. Good enough. Unfortunatley, these are his IV's:

    HP:19
    ATK:13
    DEF:9
    SP.A:31
    SP.D:7
    SPE:22
    Hid. Pow:ICE-66

    See? Decent, but I would have liked a bit more in def, and especially sp.def. This is his set:

    Vileplume@Black Sludge
    Nature:Calm
    Energy Ball
    Hidden Power [ICE]
    Aromatherapy
    Stun Spore
    EV:252 HP, 132 SP.DEF, 120 SP.ATK

    Due to poor IV's in sp.def, I must invest more IV's in that area. So, I can really use help in the EV part.

    I know these Plume threads of mine are getting annoying, but everyone can sympathize with me in Hidden Pow breeding. I wanted Rock, but settled for Ice. Ice can hurt opposing dragons. Plume is walled by Steel, but oh well. Can't hit everything.
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    try this, i found it on smogon for you, with the nature you have currently


    name: Sub Seed
    move 1: Substitute
    move 2: Leech Seed
    move 3: Hidden Power Ice/Sludge Bomb/Giga Drain
    move 4: Stun Spore
    item: Leftovers / Large Root
    nature: Calm / Sassy
    evs: 244 hp / 136 def / 128 SpDef



    name: Status Platform
    move 1: Sleep Powder
    move 2: Stun Spore / Toxic
    move 3: Aromatherapy / Leech Seed
    move 4: Hidden Power Ice/Energy Ball / Sludge Bomb
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Calm / Sassy
    evs: 244 hp / 136 def / 128 SpDef
     
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    Now, I looked at smogon, and saw those set. I'll critisize those sets for a sec:

    1)I can't use the first set. All that breeding...I must breed for Leech Seed.

    2)I have a sleep inducer on my team, so I can afford to lose Sleep Powder. I really need a cleric on my team, though. Thanks for the imput.
     
    sims796 said:
    Now, I looked at smogon, and saw those set. I'll critisize those sets for a sec:

    1)I can't use the first set. All that breeding...I must breed for Leech Seed.

    2)I have a sleep inducer on my team, so I can afford to lose Sleep Powder. I really need a cleric on my team, though. Thanks for the imput.
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    Sorry, i forgot leech seed is an egg move for plume ,ok try the second one or just keep your original set, it looks fine apart from those Ivs in Def and Sp.Def, oh well at least they are not 0 or 2 or something, just keep yourself lucky that you actually got a good hidden power.
     
    Heh, yeah. But my biggest problem is how to fix it with the EV spread. Any advice?
     
    Ok, I did some calculations, and with those IV's and this spread:

    244 HP, 176 SP.DEF, 90 SP.ATK

    I get these stats:

    HP:340
    SP.D:263
    SP.A:258

    Is this good?
     
    sims796 said:
    Alright, I now have HP Ice Oddish. Good enough. Unfortunatley, these are his IV's:

    HP:19
    ATK:13
    DEF:9
    SP.A:31
    SP.D:7
    SPE:22
    Hid. Pow:ICE-66

    See? Decent, but I would have liked a bit more in def, and especially sp.def. This is his set:

    Vileplume@Black Sludge
    Nature:Calm
    Energy Ball
    Hidden Power [ICE]
    Aromatherapy
    Stun Spore
    EV:252 HP, 132 SP.DEF, 120 SP.ATK

    Due to poor IV's in sp.def, I must invest more IV's in that area. So, I can really use help in the EV part.

    I know these Plume threads of mine are getting annoying, but everyone can sympathize with me in Hidden Pow breeding. I wanted Rock, but settled for Ice. Ice can hurt opposing dragons. Plume is walled by Steel, but oh well. Can't hit everything.[/QUOTE]

    Drain Punch, even though it's not a very good move, can help with that.

    Vileplume @:Focus Sash
    Trait: Chlorophyll
    Lonely/Hasty/Naive Nature
    Energy Ball
    Drain Punch
    Sunny Day
    Synthesis.
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    Not only is his Atk is too low (poor IV), But those natures require breeding. Not willing to go through that again.

    I have other pokes for Steel, so I don't care much for Plume hitting those.
     
    sims796 said:
    Ok, I did some calculations, and with those IV's and this spread:

    244 HP, 176 SP.DEF, 90 SP.ATK

    I get these stats:

    HP:340
    SP.D:263
    SP.A:258

    Is this good?
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    well seing as its max Hp with Max EVs invested into it is 354

    Its max S.Def is 306 with maxed evs

    and its max Sp.Att is 299, with maxed evs

    these are all at level 100

    id say its fine, with that ev spread you posted there
     
    Beautiful. This is good enough. I'll begin training as soon as I get Bronznor.
     
    Azelf is right, and I did calculations according to that.
     
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