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A Team I Actually Like...

Ársa

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    Kingler@Choice Scarf
    Jolly
    252 Atk, 188 Spd, 16 HP, 52 Def
    Hyper Cutter

    Rock Slide
    Crabhammer
    X-Scissor
    Brick Break

    Outspeeds Jolly Swellow by 1 point, hence the 188 speed EV's instead of 240. Unsure on the last slot, I have earthquake at the moment, but that may change. Wow guys, I'm staggerred that nobody pointed out that KINGLER CANNOT LEARN EARTHQUAKE! O_O

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    Stantler@Leftovers
    Adamant
    252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def
    Intimidate

    Thunder Wave
    Confuse Ray
    Stomp
    Earthquake

    I love this thing. It's the Togekiss of UU. Hax galore right here. It also is my Intimidator, so it's a very valuable addition.

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    Grumpig@Leftovers
    Calm
    252 HP, 52 Sp. Atk, 200 Sp. Def
    Thick Fat

    Energy Ball
    Psychic
    Reflect
    Rest

    Here to wall Glaceon and Ninetails, who are problematic otherwise. Energy Ball for Quasire and Gastrodon, among others.

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    Steelix@Leftovers
    Impish
    252 HP, 136 Atk, 120 Sp. Def

    Stealth Rock
    Crunch
    Earthquake
    Roar

    Physical Wall. Stealth Rock setter and Phazer.

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    Manectric@Life Orb
    Hasty
    252 Sp. Atk, 220 Spd, 36 HP
    Static

    Thunderbolt
    Flamethrower
    Hidden Power GRASS
    Crunch

    Does a better job at sweeping than Raichu does. Crunch has a high chance of 2HKO'ing both Grumpig and Hypno.

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    Drifblim@Leftovers
    Calm
    80 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 176 Spd
    Aftermath

    Baton Pass
    Substitute
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball / Hidden Power FLYING

    I needed something to be able to wall Primeape, and I originally had Drapion, but then remembered the Dark typing. :( This also doubles as a Sub-Passer.

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    I have a few suggestions. Consider Brick Break on the Kingler set. For Steelix, Gyro ball and Explosion are also options over Stone Edge. And Ive see Reversal work well over Focus Blast on Raichu, but you're gonna wanna use Focus Sash if you use Reversal. I hoped that helped a bit T_S.
     
    Well you mentioned yourself Wish Hypno is no longer possible on Shoddy, meaning that you're using this on Wi-fi right?

    Personally I'm not so fond of Kingler because 85% is still a bit shaky for your only STAB move and he can't afford to miss much. It is also risky since Poliwrath can come on 3 of his moves, set a sub and Hypnosis, Waterfall or Focus Punch your entire team. Reflect on Hypno might be a temporary solution.

    Manectric does a better job than Raichu at that, you -should- replace it.

    I don't like Steelix with Stone Edge, try Gyro Ball or Crunch. Roar + SR is enough to hurt pokemon with weakness to rock.

    Why do you need a sub passer? You have nothing trying to stat up or even Focus Punch. Consider Rotom instead for overall better offence. Hypno and Stantler can learn Hypnosis if you really wanna keep one in your team.
     
    Thanks, I didn't realise what i'd given Steelix. Yeah, so manectric comes in and Steelix gets crunch. I'm sticking with Drifblim, it actually does a fair job of countering Primeape, and can come in on 2 of its most potent choice banded attacks. HP FLYING actually may be the pick to kill of Primeape, along with the occasional scyther etc.

    EDIT: Doesn anyone else wanna comment? Please, I need an opinion. :(

    ~T_S
     
    Overall, the team appears to be pretty solid. You have a good mix of team support (Stantler's Parafusion + Intimidate and Drifblim's Subpassing), attacking (Kingler and Manetric), and walling (Hypno and Steelix). You hold a good coverage, but a Specs Glaceon COULD really cause problems due to a lack of special ice resist (Hypno can for a lil while, and don't say Kingler. It's probably 2HKO'd, but unsure.), as well as Nasty Plotting + Hypnosis Ninetales (If Kingler is put to sleep). Those are just my random thoughts that could hurt this team.
     
    For a UU battle this team is pretty solid.

    Might consider hypnosis over Confuse Ray on Stantler, since sleep over confusion all the way
     
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    For a UU battle this team is pretty solid.

    Might consider hypnosis over Confuse Ray on Stantler, since sleep over confusion all the way
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    Drifblim is already running Hypnosis, and Confuse Ray gives it a Parafuse hax ability, which I lurve. :P

    Thanks ABY, tbh, I've never had problems with Ninetails, Hypno has Insomnia for a reason. (Maybe you missed that... It would outstall with Toxic/Wish/Seismic Toss)

    Glaceon i've not seen at all, but I can see where you're coming from. Brick Break may be the option over Earthquake on Kingler then. Thanks. ;)

    ~T_S
     
    You're Altaria weak. Nothing there can shut it down after a couple DDs- your best bet is hoping Stantler survives and is able to Paralyze it. Maybe have Ice Fang on Steelix instead of Crunch? It's also good for hitting fliers a little better than Crunch.

    Nasty Plot and Rain Dance Toxicroak can also have some fun with your team. Just don't send Steelix right in, because you might fall to HP Water, but don't just go with Hypno either, because Nasty Plot versions can and will defeat it. Remember Croak is immune to Toxic.

    But it's a solid team. Good job.
     
    It is true that Ninetales can't sleep your Hypno, but once it gets a Nasty Plot or two in, it's going to be hard to stall.

    Brick Break on Kingler...I don't think that'll OHKO a Glaceon, but you CAN revenge it. I wouldn't drop Brick Break because 135 Base Power from Crabhammer is good enough to Brick Break's 150. Besides, you have Rock Slide to deal with it.

    I know it's a little late to post this, but...

    Damage: 154 - 181
    Damage: 46.11% - 54.19%

    That's your Brick Break/Rock Slide against the standard 252HP/252sp.atk/4spd Glaceon. It has a half n' half chance to 2HKO. With Leftovers, that's even less. Meanwhile, if that Glaceon has Specs, and you switch into its Ice Beam...

    Damage: 223 - 262
    Damage: 87.45% - 102.75%

    You can be OHKO'd on the switch in...with Blizzard, were it to take its luck, it's a OHKO...without Specs, it's a guaranteed 2HKO on both moves. Shadow Ball has a very high chance of OHKOing, and Hidden Power Fighting, although very very slim, can do the same. Therefore, this thing can not counter Glaceon, but then again, Glaceon can not switch in on this.
     
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    Well, I'm content with Revenge Killing, and Glaceon shouldn't pose too many troubles. Perhaps if it does get annoying I can swap Hypno for Thick Fat Grumpig, losing the Ninetails and Glaceon problems at the same time.

    ~T_S
     
    That would be your best bet, but take care to not switch into Specs Shadow Ball because that will cause severe damage. Otherwise, Grumpig is one of the best. However, you lose your wish support, but the positives still outweigh the negatives.
     
    Yeah, I'm still disagreeing on that, but hey, they're fine on my server if it's not for ladder (if i could figure it out, I'd make a ladder for my server.)

    Other than Glaceon being troublesome, I don't see anything that stands out as a problem, and you're resolving that one as it is.
     
    I don't think the Stantlers moves look so good. I would suggest something like this.
    ~Earthquake
    ~Hyper Beam
    ~Iron Tail
    ~Thunder Bolt
     
    Hyper Beam and Iron Tail? Thunderbolt coming from an inferior SpA. No, never use Hyper Beam. And Stantler has use for status.
     
    Got here before myself T-Tar, and I was to mention similar things. Stantler is effective at passing annoying statuses around, not going all-out offense. At that point, there are better options.

    Hyper Beam is more fail than the word fail itself, unless your name is Nasty Plot Porygon-Z, and even then, it's average only at best. There's too much easy setup from it to call it a good move, especially when Stomp gets a flinch chance, 65 base power, and goes well with paralysis and confusion. To fully conclude since the beginning, Hyper Beam fails.

    Support your set with good reasons next time.
     
    Psychic will most likely OHKO Toxicroak, so don't worry too much about it (Barring a Payapa Berry, but I doubt it would run that.)

    I think your team's set to go for now.
     
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