5th Gen Ability Discussion

[Volroc]

So, what, an ability that boosts the power of all moves? That'd be so overpowered. Technician is bad enough with moves under 60 BP, you want it for everything? o_O

no not at all, it would only work for attacks that dont get stab on that pokemon
and it would weaken stab moves in return, so itd be balanced lol

 

[Haza]

I don't have a name for it but I would love an ability that would increase the Accuracy of moves that of the same type as the user by 25%. The name could involve genetics or something.

Instinctive Aim?

I've got another Idea... an ability that makes a Pokemon completely immune to moves that are of the same type as they are... idk, I'm bad at this!

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

no not at all, it would only work for attacks that dont get stab on that pokemon
and it would weaken stab moves in return, so itd be balanced lol

Okay, so it boosts the power of all moves except of the same type. That's still 14/15 types that ARE boosted. That's still overpowered.

 

[Volroc]

Okay, so it boosts the power of all moves except of the same type. That's still 14/15 types that ARE boosted. That's still overpowered.

but most pokemon that are single typed can only learn 4-6types
and dual type pokemon usually learn 8-10
and NO legendary would ever have this ability, nor would a pseudo-legend
it woudl be the kind of ability placed on Linoone ♥ , exc.

 

[BleuVII]

How about the opposite of "normalize," which makes all moves normal type.

Specialize. Makes normal-type moves the same type as the user.

 

[Volroc]

How about the opposite of "normalize," which makes all moves normal type.

Specialize. Makes normal-type moves the same type as the user.

Garchomp use giga impact!
giga impact turns into dragon/ground
ice/dragon type takes an epic x8 damage XD

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

but most pokemon that are single typed can only learn 4-6types
and dual type pokemon usually learn 8-10
and NO legendary would ever have this ability, nor would a pseudo-legend
it woudl be the kind of ability placed on Linoone ♥ , exc.

What I'm saying is it's every single move aside from moves of the same type that are boosted. STAB is logical, it adds to stuff of the same type. At most, a Pokemon gets 2 types of moves boosted. This is just adding to every other move that said Pokemon has. And most Pokemon learn a lot of different moves. Linoone learns 13, I think, different types.

Competitively, every Pokemon often runs multiple non-stab attacks. If these are powered up, who needs STABs? Gyarados gets better moves of other types than water moves. What's going to happen? GYARADOS USED OUTRAGE! IT HAS STAB! YOU SCREWED BRO.

 

[Volroc]

What I'm saying is it's every single move aside from moves of the same type that are boosted. STAB is logical, it adds to stuff of the same type. At most, a Pokemon gets 2 types of moves boosted. This is just adding to every other move that said Pokemon has. And most Pokemon learn a lot of different moves. Linoone learns 13, I think, different types.

ground, ghost,dark, normal,water,fighting,electric,flying,steel,psychic,&ice i believe ^_^
whats wrong with givin NU pokemon a fightin chance? :P

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

Linoone can learn Pin Missile, Gunk Shot and Grass Knot, too. Bug, Poison, Grass.

There's nothing wrong with boosting NU Pokemon. Just you give it to the wrong Pokemon and it overpowers them. I mean, Linoone then gets STAB Gunk Shot, Iron Tail, Seed Bomb and Shadow Claw, coming off a base attack which can be Belly Drummed.

 

[Volroc]

Linoone can learn Pin Missile, Gunk Shot and Grass Knot, too. Bug, Poison, Grass.

There's nothing wrong with boosting NU Pokemon. Just you give it to the wrong Pokemon and it overpowers them.

totally forgot bout that, & it learns seed bomb cuz i just taught bandit seed bomb ♥

true, thats why i think only the first normal types like sentret, linoone, exc. would get it

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

The thing is, Normal-types like Furret, Linoone and stuff get a very, very large variety of moves.

 

[Volroc]

The thing is, Normal-types like Furret, Linoone and stuff get a very, very large variety of moves.

thats why i love them ♥♥♥♥♥ their so cute, yet awesome XD

 

[Haza]

How about the opposite of "normalize," which makes all moves normal type.

Specialize. Makes normal-type moves the same type as the user.

Oh my goodness, that's terrifying!

 

[Volroc]

Oh my goodness, that's terrifying!

i know XD that would be so EPIC, talk botu PWNED XD

 

[Haza]

To water down that "Specialize" ability I'd make it randomly chose a type do be if the user is a Dual-Type, or just pick the primary type.

 

[Volroc]

To water down that "Specialize" ability I'd make it randomly chose a type do be if the user is a Dual-Type, or just pick the primary type.

i agree, cuz then itd be an evil pseudo-legend thing muhahahahaha >:]

 

[BleuVII]

I agree too. And I'm kind of thinking that only mono-type pokemon would have that ability.

I actually created the ability to go with a ???-type Pokemon I created called Tanichi, whose type changes based on the day of the week. See it in my Showcase thread (link in sig).

A pseudo-legendary with that ability though?! That's just broken.

 

[Volroc]

I agree too. And I'm kind of thinking that only mono-type pokemon would have that ability.

I actually created the ability to go with a ???-type Pokemon I created called Tanichi, whose type changes based on the day of the week. See it in my Showcase thread (link in sig).

A pseudo-legendary with that ability though?! That's just broken.

no offense but ur pachee evolution is ugly :(
i like the flying squirrel idea i saw more <3
but it doesnt matter to me i just want my pachee to be truly appreicated <3

 

[KanadeTenshi]

I would see Snorlax with that Sweet Dreams ability xD

Sandy feet: Speed doubles during a sandstorm.

No thank you. I already worry enough about sandstorm teams I don't need some rain dance / sunny day sandstorm to pop up to worry about.

Still, it is not possible to counter all Pokemon with just a team of 6, but you should get the point from now. Get the best coverage you can.

No.

I havent seen a thread bout this so if there is one already my apologies.

Any ideas on new abilities?

I was thinkin that Electrode, & other Explosive pokemon could have an ability where they dont lose all their HP when they go boom, it would also cut the damage by say.... 50%, and youd only use 50-75% of your HP

and a counter part to toxic heal, except its for burn, & one for sleep (like a reverse nightmare called Sweet Dreams)

Burn: Flash Fire
Sleep: Sleep Talk

Elecctrode: Lol. You did know boom uses half of the defense point of the enemy to calc the damage right? Kinda broken.

No.

"Determined"or "Anger":
Whenever you are hit with an attack, your attack is raised but your evasiveness is lowered.

What the hell?
Evasiness doesn't mean anything in comp. battling and it's usually banned, and so forth noob moves. Ever faced a double team shuckle?

No.

Scavenge: When the Pokemon is sent out all entry hazards are sent to the opposite side.

So much for stall...

No.

Yeah or at least neutralize Entry hazards...

Then you hurt all the playstyles in the world.. stall.. heavy offense.. even BALANCED teams take damage.

No.

How about an ability that negates all the active Pokemon's immunity to weather such as Hail or Sandstorm (It probably wouldn't usually be too helpful...).

Or a set of abilities that acts basically like Wonder Guard, but only for one type. (No, I'm not wanting a Garchomp with an Ice Immunity, that would not be fun.)

Gosh you're the only one that wins in this thread. Chomp is banned but Ice Immune Rayquaza would be epic lol.

Still, pokemon getting random immunities is out of the place.

No.

We already have Ghost-type Pokemon, Dark-type Pokemon, Normal-type Pokemon, Ground-type Pokemon, Flash Fire, Volt Absorb and Water Absorb. Any more would seem tacky. "Mind Absorb"? "Ice Shield"? Nah.

I think that Determination idea would be good, but only if said Pokemon had defenses like Infernape, where it could take like two hits from anything at max.

The one that gives you +1 Atk and -1 Evs? So much for Intimidate. You know that SD Ape (Which is one of the most underrated Pokemon in the metagame like CB Gyara and such) is barely stopabble?

No.

its not that overpowered, Anger point makes your attack automatically +6 if you get hit by a crit. if you survive, you can tear teams apart with it. i think he meant it lowers your own evasiveness, so you're more seceptable to attacks

Anger point is perfectly balanced. Really what is the chance of getting a crit? 6.25%? Only Pokemon with Super Luck is Absol and Honchkrow, none are common except Absol which is an UU beast.

Nope.

i think an ability that gives STAB to non-STAB attacks the pokemon knows would be awesome, then a normal type pokemon would be just plain AWESOME (LInoone FTW!)

Normal STAB is terrible and lets you get walled by Heracross. I see only Furret getting this because Furret has crap base SpA and great special movepool. Linoone already has ultimate one turn setup so he doesn't need that. And STAB extremespeed is lethal enough.

Nah.

no not at all, it would only work for attacks that dont get stab on that pokemon
and it would weaken stab moves in return, so itd be balanced lol

I already said Normal STAB is terrible. I dunno why I quoted this.. but just for the case...:

Nope.

How about the opposite of "normalize," which makes all moves normal type.

Specialize. Makes normal-type moves the same type as the user.

Rayquaza won't get it but STAB, priority extremespeed is HIDEOUS.

NO WAY.

Garchomp use giga impact!
giga impact turns into dragon/ground
ice/dragon type takes an epic x8 damage XD

What I'm saying is it's every single move aside from moves of the same type that are boosted. STAB is logical, it adds to stuff of the same type. At most, a Pokemon gets 2 types of moves boosted. This is just adding to every other move that said Pokemon has. And most Pokemon learn a lot of different moves. Linoone learns 13, I think, different types.

Competitively, every Pokemon often runs multiple non-stab attacks. If these are powered up, who needs STABs? Gyarados gets better moves of other types than water moves. What's going to happen? GYARADOS USED OUTRAGE! IT HAS STAB! YOU SCREWED BRO.

Do you love getting walled by Skarm?
Oh and water is one of the best offensive types. Gyara doesn't need outrage. +1 Adamant DD already tears stuff apart.

Only if you wanna get walled by Skarm.

The thing is, Normal-types like Furret, Linoone and stuff get a very, very large variety of moves.

And the inability to use them effectively.

I agree too. And I'm kind of thinking that only mono-type pokemon would have that ability.

I actually created the ability to go with a ???-type Pokemon I created called Tanichi, whose type changes based on the day of the week. See it in my Showcase thread (link in sig).

A pseudo-legendary with that ability though?! That's just broken.

What..? I don't get it.

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

You ALWAYS like this, KT? Also, uh, I never said the Anger/Determination Pokemon had to be Infernape exactly, just with Infernape Defenses. >_> Y'know, meaning they can't take a hit from anything stronger than Luvdisc? That and they don't have to be fast or anything, etc.

Also, if you can't stop SD Ape, "maybe you're just bad?" Any Pokemon can be "barely stoppable" when they're supported properly, etc.