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All Groudon Users Read This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In a gro/kyo battle, it really depeads on the speed to me.
 
Nah... Kyogres run like Rattatas on NB... definitely a stat to memorize (speed is lower than 300 even with bonus). And don't diss my fellow buddies Kairi... I mean just because there are tons of people like me who gets beaten up continously on NB... ;_; As for the noobs who are even worst than me, well I rely on them to get wins if I need wins XD

Kyogre and Groudon has identical speed, so most likely Kyogre will win because ice beam will always be there, while Solarbeam won't work if the weather happens to be rain dance not sunny day (the one with lower speed will take over in terms of weather, and if their speed is identical... then 50/50)

-no one uses feather dance or tickle (or they die before it gets pulled off)
-charm is there but a lot more rare (intimidate however...)
-there is also calm mind and amnesia against special defense... darn those Slowbros
-Blissey, Milotic, Ludicolo, Umbreon and so on are all great special sponge
-reflect and lightscreen are really equal in terms of which one is more common (as it all depends on the party)
 
Frosty:

Ludicolo, Milotic and umbreon are also almost equally as good a physical tank as they are special, aren't they?

Kairi: I'll RSbattle when I uh... have time to catch up on wtf RS is. ;_;
 
well Frosty, if ur buddies get beaten upa lot on NB, then i must be a family friend. 0 wins so far, but i just finished my team the way people suggested (x-cept 4 puttin on Overheat, I used Fire Blast). Umbreon may as well be a physical tank, cause its attacks r about equal (i think). And dats y that guy on NB pulled off Shadow Ball doin 131 damage to my Latias. Ludicolo is annoying cause Fire ain't super effective, and he can use physical attacks as well as special. I've never seen a militoc w/ physical attacks, though.
 
Milotic without Marvel Scale activated doesn't have that high of a physical defense... it's around low 200 and mid 200s at most. And yes Umbreon, Dusclops, Claydol and friends are all the same in both (close enough to say that it's the same)

And don't worry Mana Lugia... I'm sure that you'll be just fine ^^ Certainly you're a lot better and a lot more skilled than me in battling, so why not play for fun anyway! Just because you may not have a 3 digit number for the winning record percentages ;p
 
I thought that Ludicolo had a rather low Defense...

Anyway, even if Groudon's attack is higher (which it is), SO many Pokemon use EQ. I like Solarbeam myself for novelty value. Groudon is one of the few sunnybeaming Pokemon (while a lot can use Rain Dance well). With an auto sunny day, I say go for it. Take advantage. Who cares if it's not as good as the raining Kyogre? Atleast you'll be messing up some water types, one of the most common and dangerous pokes around.
 
Frosty: Version 9.3 will officially be released before This sunday, when Masa goes on vacation, so I'll start NB, provided I am interested, next week :p
 
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