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And the Grammy goes to...

I agree about the popularity thing - there's a lot of underground bands that, in my opinion, deserve more recognition, but don't get it. As a musician myself, I don't care if other people like what I do or not - I play because it helps me, and because it makes me happy to be playing music.

However, mainstream or not, all artists have a right to be heard. Much as I love rock and punk music, I still like listening to Kelly Clarkson. XD So sue me.
 
Sean the Wicked said:
The Grammys aren't about talent anymore, they're about popularity. That's bullshit.
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Well, that's the way the world works nowadays. You can either whine about it, or you can actually do something about it.

Sean the Wicked said:
Yes, yes it is a perfect reason for someone to be drug into the street and shot.
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Is it a valid justification for murder? NO. They have not broken any federal laws; thusly, you can't touch them.

Sean the Wicked said:
No, actually, as an avid listener to almost all forms of music, I believe I'm a perfect person to say what is rock. Actually, I'm pretty sure nine-tenths of the world agrees with me.
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And does that automatically make you an official arbiter of what is rock and what is not? No. And I'm pretty sure that you don't speak on behalf of the 5.4 billion or so people that you claim agree with you.

Sean the Wicked said:
facts.
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OPINIONS.

While I may not agree with what you have to say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it. You're entitled to your opinions, I'm entitled to mine, and they're all entitled to theirs. That's all.
 
Hey guys, tone it down, we don't want flaming here. I think he was just saying "should be shot" as in the common expression. He doesn't mean he actually wants them to be murdered.
 
Alright, I just watched the telecast (they put it out in Australia a day after). I roffled at them starting to play Mariah Carey when U2 won the award. The performances were pretty good this year, although I'd have liked some punk in there too. I was a bit disappointed at John Legend winning Best New Artist over Fall Out Boy (who aren't NEW anyway) but I guess he deserves it too.
 
Kazuhito said:
How about you don't tell people what they can and can't post? If something's played more than one song, that's a fact, not an opinion.
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Twisting my words, now are we?

This is why I hate posting at certain places. People twist your words, they do. =)

Of course they are overplayed. I don't like it. No one does. But bottomline is, everything on the radio is overplayed, not just Green Day. Ever think about that? 8D I think not. Kelly Clarkson is as overplayed as Green Day.

I did not say they couldn't post. Did I ever say that? Nope. Did not.

And you know what? Fact and opinion aren't even cared about anymore, people go with they want to believe, whether you like it or not. D: Sorry, reality sucks. Deal.

Oh, and at Sean, because I feel I should justify music o.o

1) Just a question: Do you live in the mind of Billie Joe Armstrong? Do you know this is what he doesn't want to do? =) Sorry, I don't believe so. And secondly, are you saying this because just about 70% of everyone else is saying this, or because you actually believe this? D: Everything is becoming a sellout, dear. It's a cliche by now. Being called "Not a sellout" should be an insult at this rate. =/

2) ...Okay, well fine, I agree with the Kelly and Kanye West thing. Fine, you got me there. XD

3) ...Don't you EVER call U2 Pop again. How dare you even say that? They were a Punk band in the 80's, then moving through different genres until today. That's what makes them special. They aren't really any genre. Kay? Kay.

4)...Dayum. Got me again. I pretty much despise SOAD and Slipknot, =/ I think Disturbed should have been nominated something.
 
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Ok can we please just get back on topic. People are offending other people for no reason.
 
Jedi_Amara said:
Hey guys, tone it down, we don't want flaming here. I think he was just saying "should be shot" as in the common expression. He doesn't mean he actually wants them to be murdered.
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I like you. You have common sense. Thank you for bringing intelligence.
 
Sean, I can't see how you can label U2 as "pop" as I'm sure that you must not have heard their older material and maybe because rock music has been so diluted nowadays to just screaming and meshed power chords to the point that the Beatles and Elvis have failed to justify their cause to you. ;P Also, you've been warned for swearing.

Anyways, simmer down people. We don't want to get violent in here. I see another argument and you get a warning for it.
 
Akinari said:
Sean, I can't see how you can label U2 as "pop" as I'm sure that you must not have heard their older material and maybe because rock music has been so diluted nowadays to just screaming and meshed power chords to the point that the Beatles and Elvis have failed to justify their cause to you. ;P Also, you've been warned for swearing.

Anyways, simmer down people. We don't want to get violent in here. I see another argument and you get a warning for it.
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Dammit. Dammit. Dammit. Oh wait. I don't care.

U2, by definition of musical genres, is now pop. If you want to stretch it, I will bend for pop-rock.

Oh, and it's not my fault your censor system is a failure.
 
The Grammies are a joke. It's all corruption. The major record label is pushing Mariah Carey's "comeback", are you surprised the Grammies like it too?
Are you surprised that the crappy songs you hear a couple times on the radio immediatly get their videos played on horrible media outlets such as MTV?

Lust said:
Everything is overplayed nowadays so that's not a very good reason to not give someone a Grammy.
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Everything is overplayed? Please. Tons great albums by quality artists came out in '05. Hardly any were even mentioned on the Grammies. If you want to venture out into truly great music, you'll have to do more than turn on the radio or put on VH1. You'll need tap into the uncorrupted music sites on the net. One of the best music review sites I know is https://www.pitchforkmedia.com/
If you get your music and music news from sources such as Rolling Stone, you are not a real "music enthusiast". RS, MTV, VH1, etc, just reccommened what's trendy to get readers. For example, in 1975, RS said Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here was a horrible album with outragous misuse of the synth.
Thirty years later, in 2005 (I think), they rated it one of their top 500 albums of all time.
 
Akinari said not to argue anymore.

Did you guys see how Stevie Wonder was poking fun of his blindness when he was presenting an award with Alisha Keys? xD
 
Sean the Wicked said:
Dammit. Dammit. Dammit. Oh wait. I don't care.

U2, by definition of musical genres, is now pop. If you want to stretch it, I will bend for pop-rock.

Oh, and it's not my fault your censor system is a failure.
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Ah sure. It's not my forums and I don't control the censors so I guess it's up to that person's maturity to recognize the right moment and oppurtunity to use such words around these parts. Shame, really.

But yeah. I prefer not to waste my time on people like you. You've been warned again.
 
corganzero said:
I'm not, just telling people my opinion.
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Yeah, I can see yours as one. But I do agree with you that most about these award shows are politics. And probably partially about reputation of the artists or their tendancies. But otherwise, I'm assuming that some of these artists may have won some obscure cattegory the Grammy has... seriously... over 100 cattegories?
 
I see more flaming approaching.

I think I know what you mean by calling U2 pop. What you're doing is confusing pop music as a genre with popular music in and of itself. When you're talking about pop music as opposed to classical music, then yes, you may call U2 pop. However, when you separate popular music into its own genres and sub-genres, then U2 is not pop - it's more alternative rock.
 
ja, you have a really good point right thar. Um, but anyways... The Grammys pretty much sucked. I would have hated for Fall Out Boy to win something, because that means then... They, well, sold out to teeny-boppers. But, it isn't their fault, just like it isn't Green Day's fault. So... Isn't this thread supposed to be about the Grammys, and not "oh who's sold out and who isn't"? I think it's supposed to be about the Grammys, it HAS that in its title... But, meh. System won something? Congrats to them, I didn't even know. Yeah, I have to say that the only good act on there was U2, and then Mary J. Blige ruined it. Linkin Park, too... But Jay-Z massacred it. So... Well, the Grammys were okay. Even though U2 won so many Grammys (which I'm so proud of them for! I knew they could do it!) for some reason, they didn't sell out. U2 is U2, man. It's Bono. Bono can't sell out, XD; That's just my two cents, please don't bash meh on it. ~Diggie
 
No, Fall Out Boy would not have "sold out" just by winning an award. You can't make a band sell out by giving them an award, because that's not what it's about. Selling out is about the attitude to the music - whether they're doing music for themselves because they love it, or because they want to make money out of it. And it's about whether they are writing songs in a certain way just to make them appeal to, as you put it, "teenyboppers". As long as you make the music for the music - you're not a sellout.

I actually have to admit I like the Jay-Z/Linkin Park combination. I bought the album and everything.
 
The Jay Z/Linkin Park combination was freaking great. The album was great. Mary J. Blige ruined the U2 performance.
 
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