Anime or Classic Animation?

[Kirioroshi]

Nah i never sang to jungle book. nor laughed at Tom and Jerry, i found it too predictable.

 

[Harpuia]

tom and jerry was awesome! but I hated all those stupid musicals...........

 

[kohei]

I have a question, what in the name of Jesus is 'Moephobia'?

Sauce 1 and Sauce 2.

Moephobia is a word created by the manga-critic, Itou Go.
People who are moephobic hold strong disgust/dislike towards "moe" and "moe-art" (ie. modern anime style) in general.

1. A dislike towards the notion of the word, "moe" itself. Itou suggests that this occurs, as the "moe" and "moe art" is now abundant in both "art and literature" and "children and adults", two frames that are basis of modern culture.
Hence, this example of moephobia points towards irrational hatred from the general impression of "moe", and the art style.

2. The argument of "moe = pedophilia". As media forms now try to generate "moe" intentionally, because of this there is an impression that moe is lowbrow and sexual.
Common arguments are: "Moe is sexual harassment", "Moe leads to sex crimes".
This argument comes from the fact that most "moe-art" makes the character look young, and have child-like qualities. Outside Japan, some media forms that depict characters in the moe-style are classified as child pornography.

3. Some otakus are not interested in moe. Therefore, hold strong hatred to "moe" that is target by the mass media frequently, as the media looks at otakus as a large demographic instead of small groups of otakus with interests in different things.
This is especially so when the mass media portrays otakus as "potential sexual predators that prey on children".
This has become a frequent problem, especially after the "Miyazaki Otaku Murder" case.

4. The impression that people get from arguments that try to censor "moe", which always includes: "Bad influence on children", "Trigger for sex crimes" and "Moe is a justification of sexual harassment".
Because of this common argument and the fact that the mass media broadcasts this, people that are not exposed to moe and moe-art develop a sense that moe and moe-art is not "serious" and "normal", therefore holding unjustified feelings of hatred toward the notion.


Small edit: As a note, you may have guessed it but I'm Japanese. Because of this I've been exposed to more anime than American animation.
It has sort of changed ever since I've came to Hong Kong and watched some American animation they have on TV here, but the I still lean towards anime.
After all, I cannot argue against a media form I've been exposed so little to.

 

[Fox♠]

Nah i never sang to jungle book. nor laughed at Tom and Jerry, i found it too predictable.

You're like 12, so you weren't even born when cartoons were great.
You didn't like it because it was predictable, but anime is generally just as predictable.

 

[Shiraishi]

It's not that hard to watch old cartoons on Boomerang >_> Death Note is totally predictable <_<

 

[Ryoutarou]

Not really. It doesn't follow too many well known standards, especially for a shounen product. Considering what happens around the middle and how the series ends, I don't see how it's all that predictable.

 

[Kirioroshi]

You're like 12, so you weren't even born when cartoons were great.

I could be 12 years old or I could be a 50 year old ped. Its the internet, i can anything i want.

So anyway, tell me why you dislike anime?

Btw would you say The Simpson's falls in the category of classic animation?

 

[Fox♠]

The Simpsons never hit our screens to the 80s, and it was a very different show to what it is today. So no, it's not a classic.

Have you not read the past half a page? because it says the numerous reasons why I dislike anime in comparison to Classic animation.

 

[Kirioroshi]

Well from what i see, you don't seem to like the way its drawn. Its anatomy is rubbish.

So what about the Flintstones Family? its anatomy is rubbish. Fred's only about 3 heads high. ZOMG RUBBISH ANATOMY!!

Leaving out everything apart from the visual, i would say anime is much better than classic animation. Anime is colored much better than classic animation. Classic animations seems to use only single colours to show skin or jeans. Anime however uses different shades of that colour to show form. Heck, it even has better detail than classic animation.

 

[Pkmn_knight]

Since when has Classic Animation only been from America?
And I like both But if i want comedy i prefer witty jokes and toilet humor instead of hit the guy , hit the other guy.

Though i must say i liked the old betty boop Show.

 

[Shiraishi]

Not really. It doesn't follow too many well known standards, especially for a shounen product. Considering what happens around the middle and how the series ends, I don't see how it's all that predictable.

That was sarcasm =[ I love Death Note and I'm aware thats it's unique.

 

[kohei]

Well from what i see, you don't seem to like the way its drawn. Its anatomy is rubbish.

So what about the Flintstones Family? its anatomy is rubbish. Fred's only about 3 heads high. ZOMG RUBBISH ANATOMY!!

He argues that Popeye is the art of exaggeration, while anime has crap anatomy, despite the "anime style" being the fruit of exaggerating desirable bodily features (like large eyes etc).