Another Team to Rate & Fix

Dragon Tamer Ed

Formerly DarkParukia
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    This is my future Wi-fi team. Yeah, rate & fix. However I think it helps if you rate it as a team, rather than rating each pokemon individually:

    Salamence@Life Orb
    Bashful (can't be changed)
    Trait: Intimidate
    -Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Flamethrower
    -Brick Break

    Rhyperior@Wide Lens
    Adamant
    Trait:Solid Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Megahorn
    -Avalanche

    Poryon-Z@Wise Glasses
    Timid
    Trait: Adaptability
    -Tri-Attack
    -Psychic
    -Thunderbolt
    -Hyper Beam

    Roserade@Black Sludge
    Timid
    Trait: Natural Cure
    -Sleep Powder
    -Energy Ball
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Aromatherapy

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Impish
    Trait: Synchronise
    -Mean Look
    -Toxic
    -Baton Pass
    -Wish

    Spritomb@Leftovers (Spooky Plate during Item Clause)
    Relaxed
    Trait: Pressure
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Calm Mind
    -Shadow Ball
    -Pain Split
     
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    For pokemon with low attack power, give it the Metronome. Don't give Spiritomb Spooky Plate, it raises the attack barely, and it benefits only one attack. There isn't any point in Baton Pass since you don't have any stat raising attacks. Swagger is a replacement for Baton Pass
     
    I thought the Plate Items raised their corresponding type's power by 30% which I'm sure isn't low. Oh well.

    BP is on Umberon so I can switch in my lower-defensive pokemon without them getting clobbered. Imagine this: I switch in Rosie to heal my team, only for her to get pwn'd by a Garchomp's Earthquake or something similar. Umbreon, however, can take the hit no problem and then when he passes things over I'm clear to Incapacitate and Aromatherapise (and if it's a Gar or Sala, kill with HP Ice). Basically, BP increases Umbreon's potential as a living shield.
     
    The Plates raise that Type of Attack's power by 20%, not 30%, which is still better than the 10% those kinds of items [Miracle Seed, Mystic Water, Hard Rock etc.] used to raise it by.
     
    Where can you find the plates? I only got fist plate and icicle plate
     
    The Plates can all be found Underground randomly once each, but serebii.net also says other locations where you can find them.

    Anyway can we please get back on topic? I really need this team rated.
     
    I think you should keep the baton pass because it affects the mean look, as it quits when you normal switch out. I don't see what good the hp ice on roserade is doing because if you get against a flying type pokemon like skarmory it wont help you and if you are going against a flying type pokemon you had better be switching out to rhyperior. Instead I suggest synthesis to use while they are asleep, also you should consider the wide lens because sleep powder is a risky move without it. The spiritomb looks good. On the porygon-z I would use hyper beam instead of nasty plot because you probably won't have much time to power up with porygon-zs weak defenses. It could be a move to use on a turn that you are at the end of a battle or are about to be taken out anyway. The rhyperior should hold a wide lens also with stone edge because that could sweep and be a wall. Also if you insist on having nasy plot on porygon-z, I suggest a focus sash so that even with low defenses as long as you are decently fast you can take out one pokemon. Last but not least you should replace flamethrower on salamence with fire fang.
     
    ooka_100 said:
    I think you should keep the baton pass because it affects the mean look, as it quits when you normal switch out. I don't see what good the hp ice on roserade is doing because if you get against a flying type pokemon like skarmory it wont help you and if you are going against a flying type pokemon you had better be switching out to rhyperior. Instead I suggest synthesis to use while they are asleep, also you should consider the wide lens because sleep powder is a risky move without it. The spiritomb looks good. On the porygon-z I would use hyper beam instead of nasty plot because you probably won't have much time to power up with porygon-z's weak defenses. It could be a move to use on a turn that you are at the end of a battle or are about to be taken out anyway. The rhyperior should hold a wide lens also with stone edge because that could sweep and be a wall. Also if you insist on having nasy plot on porygon-z, I suggest a focus sash so that even with low defenses as long as you are decently fast you can take out one pokemon. Last but not least you should replace flamethrower on salamence with fire fang.
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    Yeah, I did think Roserade was a risky dragon-killer. I'll put avalanche on Rhyperior so he can assume the position. On Porygon-Z would it be wise to have Tri-Attack and Hyper beam? (In which case I'm giving it Adaptability) Or should I use another attack? As for Sala, she is taking up the role of a Mixed Sweeper and Skarm-Bliss counter, so Flamethrower stays.
     
    I keep forgetting about teh Dowsing machine. Anyway, the team...
     
    OK. I've made a couple of changes to the team above now that I've had more time to think about things.
     
    Rhyperior really needs Stone Edge, it can take a few hits if it doesn't hit and he won't be flinching anything with that speed.

    Do not use Hyper Beam. Just don't. Nasty Plot is an excellent option for PoryZ, anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. It can set up if you get it in on something it threatens or something that can't do much to it, like Dusknoir. It needs to hold Life Orb.
     
    sanjay120 said:
    Rhyperior really needs Stone Edge, it can take a few hits if it doesn't hit and he won't be flinching anything with that speed.

    Do not use Hyper Beam. Just don't. Nasty Plot is an excellent option for PoryZ, anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. It can set up if you get it in on something it threatens or something that can't do much to it, like Dusknoir. It needs to hold Life Orb.
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    i agree, rhyperior needs stone edge & earthquake for STAB. avalanche for obvious reasons and megahorn to deal with grass types aswell as dark & pshycic. its ability is the best choice as it powers down super effecitve moves by 33.3%.
     
    sanjay120 said:
    Rhyperior really needs Stone Edge, it can take a few hits if it doesn't hit and he won't be flinching anything with that speed.

    Do not use Hyper Beam. Just don't. Nasty Plot is an excellent option for PoryZ, anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. It can set up if you get it in on something it threatens or something that can't do much to it, like Dusknoir. It needs to hold Life Orb.
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    I don't appreciate being called an idiot and if you insist on having nasty plot try using recover also because you should only try power ups with pokemon that can baton pass or take moves for at least two turns and porygon isn't one of them, my score is 23 to 2 and the reason I have half of those wins is people are trying to power up their pokemon when rally they should be attacking so at least try recover if you are going with nasty plot.
     
    ooka_100 said:
    I don't appreciate being called an idiot and if you insist on having nasty plot try using recover also because you should only try power ups with pokemon that can baton pass or take moves for at least two turns and porygon isn't one of them, my score is 23 to 2 and the reason I have half of those wins is people are trying to power up their pokemon when rally they should be attacking so at least try recover if you are going with nasty plot.
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    i agree, you could teach your rhyperior hyper beam but i dont recomend it though. nasty plot has its flaws however, porygon could be cross choped on the following turn it is used.
     
    Yikes you wouldn't want to teach Rhyperior hyper beam. The beam is Special, and RhyRhy is Physical.

    His Porygon-Z is great. Adaptability + STAB + Tri Attack = 160 Base Power Tri Attack. Hyper beam + STAB + Adaptability = Death.
    But think about this.
    In the time it takes you to use a hyper beam and recharge, you could pull off a Nasty Plot and a Tri-Attack, and then keep attacking.

    I don't know what Wise Glasses do but mine holds a life orb.

    Porygon-Z is perfect.
     
    Scyther, Hyper Beam is used as a finisher/last stand. Wise Glasses boost Sp. Atk by 10% with no drawbacks. Since Salamence already has the Life Orb, Porygon has to use the glasses due to Item Clause and the fact that I only have 1 Life Orb. Anyway I'll run this set and see how it does. And I'm sure Archer was thinking of Giga Impact.
     
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