Anyone else NOT count Lugia as a legendary?

[Shiny Umbreon]

Ummm... no offense, but about the Anime being the only Pokemon media to contradict itself or any other Pokemon media, the games kind of contradict themselves as well. For evidence for the games contradicting themselves,

1. The Mew entry in the researcher diary on cinnabar island stated that it gave BIRTH to Mewtwo, and yet the pokedex entry for Mewtwo said that it was more or less the result of a gene-splicing experiment, and gave absolutely no hint that it was the offspring of Mew.

"Mew gave birth" is not that literal. It just means Mewtwo was made from Mew's genes.

2. The Pokedex entries stated that Marowak gave childbirth and dies as a result, and yet when you breed a Marowak, not only does it live after breeding, but it lays an egg.

3. Cubone's Pokedex entry states that it's skull helmet came from the remains of it's dead mom (Marowak), and yet when a cubone hatches, it also seems to be born with the skull helmet latched onto it's head.

4. Vulpix's pokedex entry stated that it was born pale and with a single tail, but when hatched from the egg, it has it's 6 tails and its normal coat.

5. Kadabra's pokedex entry hints that it was originally a human being, however, from the multitudes of Kadabra (not to mention that it can evolve into another pokemon [Alakazam], and breed to create it's pre-evo [Abra].) it doesn't really seem to be the case.

6. Mew was called the ancestor of all pokemon even in Diamond and Pearl, and yet they mentioned Arceus being the creator of all pokemon.

There's nothing wrong there. Mew was the 'ancestor'. Now Arceus is the 'creator'. It means Arceus made Mew, and Mew became all the other known species.

7. And not to mention the multitudes of legendaries despite them being genderless and one of a kind (Emerald battle frontier, anyone? or how about the Colosseum/XD games? or how about FR/LG [there is the part where Entei/Raikou/Suicune are running around Kanto despite the fact that the 3 beasts are not supposed to awake for another 3 years.]?)

Battle frontier doesn't make sense with their legendaries but the C/XD thing is logical. They are another story involving legendaries. For example, Lugia exists. It might have been caught by Gold or by Red at Navel Rock or by Michal in XD. That's still kind of contradicting, but remember C/XD are not REAL Pokémon RPGs.

Should I remember you FR/LG are remakes, which means they are not original stories but a past story 'updated' with many things, among them the new Pokémon. But it's not part of the storyline. Nobody ever mentions the dogs.

The others are just a mix of game mechanics with the history itself.

To end with the real-Pokémon-world argument, the games came first. Then the anime and manga were based on them.

In conclusion:

*The games (R/B/Y/G/S/C/R/S/E/D/P) are canon.
*Lugia cannot breed in the games, so it cannot breed. (Which doesn't have to do with its legendary status)
*As I stated before, legendaries doesn't have to do with stats, number in the PokéDex, locations, breeding ability, legends about them. It's a fan-made (I believe) term that refers to "Pokémon that cannot be obtained more than once in a single Pokémon RPG without glitches, trading, etc."

 

[Sassafras]

Lugia is definatly Legandary. He is a Legand to the poeople in the games

 

[Innagadadavida]

In regards to the topic, yes, Lugia is
2. The Pokedex entries stated that Marowak gave childbirth and dies as a result, and yet when you breed a Marowak, not only does it live after breeding, but it lays an egg.

This is still possible though. In D/P if you talk to one of the town members in the breeding town (I forget the name) they say that nobody has ever seen a Pokemon lay an egg. They also hint that Pokemon may not even lay eggs at all. But that raises the question of how they obtained the information about Marowak and Cubone in the first place.

In regards to the topic, yes, Lugia is
6. Mew was called the ancestor of all pokemon even in Diamond and Pearl, and yet they mentioned Arceus being the creator of all pokemon.

THe Pokedex entry of Arceus states.
"It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms."
Keyword being "mythology". Which could mean that Arceus is NOT the creator. Dibs are still up for Mew being the ancestor.

In regards to the topic, yes, Lugia is
... how about FR/LG [there is the part where Entei/Raikou/Suicune are running around Kanto despite the fact that the 3 beasts are not supposed to awake for another 3 years.]?)

We have no way of knowing how fast time passes in the game. It may be three years until you beat the Elite Four.


You raise some very interesting points, and I agree with most of what you said.

 

[Lt. Surge's Raichu]

I will always see Lugia as a legendary :)
It is just that way ^^

 

[CowFreak5]

Lugia is a legendary. All of the "guardians" are legendaries, like Mewtwo, Celebi, etc.

And the anime just sort of ruins the legendaries by making them less legendary. Like Lugia's child. Or the 1st Battle Frontier battle with Articuno.

 

[Typhoon]

Luigi IS legendary. Just because Mario gets the girl and all the attention doesn't mean you Luigi isn't legendary. There's a Baby Luigi, but nobody has ever seen Luigi lay an egg, so you don't even know if Luigis come from eggs, so that's not a valid argument. Also, There's only one Luigi, but there are tons of Koopas. I rest my case.

Lugia is a legendary. It may have a child in the anime, and it may even have a child in the game, but you can't breed it (it won't give us babies cuz it's too special to make babies with a weird Ditto).

 

[Magestia]

The Anime messes everything up. As opposed to the "Only One" rule of the game, the anime does not follow this, and because of this you will have seen more than one of any legendary bird.

 

[Vulpix-trainer K]

What in the world does it matter that Lugia has babies in the anime? As stated before the anime is not really following it's own canon, but on the other hand it's true that the games also mess up sometimes.
The main reason why you can only get one Moltres, one Lugia or one Ho-oh is to make the gameplay fair.
What would pokemon be easy with 6 Lugia's or 6 Ho-oh's in your team wouldn't it?
That's also why you can only get one starter a time, to make it fun to choose that perfect starter of yours. If you'd be able to catch them all eventually, it wouldn't make the choosing so exiting and fun. Not to mention the trading (also a very big feature of the Pokemon games which some people tend to forget.)