[BattleLog] How to use a Drumzard =O

[Mana Lugia]

Well, since the topic of a Charizard came up, I thought I'd put up one of my most prided battle in recent months... This is a team I randomly threw together, hence the strange order of starting with a freaking Zard =P

Commentary are in bold.
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Battle Log:
Battle Mode: Ruby/Sapphire
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Self-KO Clause
Rule: Apply PP Ups
Rule: Battle Timeout
Rule: Unrated
Rule: Show Enemy HP
SharQueDo [test] vs Watertub. Begin!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Raikou (Lv.100 Raikou)!
Watertub sent out Bird (Lv.100 Charizard)!
Bad start, if it was a choice starter, then Zard can sweep here, but...

Begin Turn #1
Watertub withdrew Bird!
Watertub sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Raikou used Thunderbolt!
But it failed!
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End of turn #1
SharQueDo [test]'s Raikou: 322 HP
Watertub's Quagsire: 394 HP

Begin Turn #2
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Raikou!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Celebi (Lv.100 Celebi)!
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Quagsire used Seismic Toss!
(100 damage)
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Celebi's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #2
SharQueDo [test]'s Celebi: 263 HP
Watertub's Quagsire: 394 HP

Begin Turn #3
Watertub withdrew Quagsire!
Watertub sent out Ball (Lv.100 Exeggutor)!
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Celebi used Giga Drain!
(120 damage)
A critical hit!
It's not very effective...
Ball had its energy drained!
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Celebi's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Ball's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #3
SharQueDo [test]'s Celebi: 342 HP
Watertub's Ball: 260 HP

Begin Turn #4
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Celebi!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Raikou (Lv.100 Raikou)!
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Ball used Sunny Day!
The sunlight got bright!
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The sunlight is strong.
Ball's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #4
SharQueDo [test]'s Raikou: 322 HP
Watertub's Ball: 282 HP

Begin Turn #5
Ball used Explosion!
(322 damage)
Raikou fainted!
Celebi and Calmkou are horrible to face with random teams =( So Eggy says goodbye and sacrifices with 282 HP left on it O_O

Ball fainted!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Breloom (Lv.100 Breloom)!
Watertub sent out Bird (Lv.100 Charizard)!
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The sunlight is strong.
End of turn #5
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 262 HP
Watertub's Bird: 312 HP

Begin Turn #6
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Breloom!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Aerodactyl (Lv.100 Aerodactyl)!
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Bird used Substitute!
Bird made a Substitute!
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The sunlight is strong.
End of turn #6
SharQueDo [test]'s Aerodactyl: 302 HP
Watertub's Bird: 234 HP

Begin Turn #7
Aerodactyl used Rock Slide!
The Substitute took damage for Bird!
Bird's Substitute faded!
It's super effective!
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Bird used Hidden Power!
(78 damage)
It's not very effective...
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The sunlight is strong.
Aerodactyl's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #7
SharQueDo [test]'s Aerodactyl: 242 HP
Watertub's Bird: 234 HP
No way Drummed HP Flying would KO, so I went for the partial damage on Aero first...

Begin Turn #8
Watertub withdrew Bird!
Watertub sent out Bob (Lv.100 Claydol)!
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Aerodactyl used Rock Slide!
(49 damage)
It's not very effective...
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The sunlight faded.
Aerodactyl's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Bob's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #8
SharQueDo [test]'s Aerodactyl: 260 HP
Watertub's Bob: 295 HP

Begin Turn #9
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Aerodactyl!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Blastoise (Lv.100 Blastoise)!
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Bob used Light Screen!
Watertub's team's Light Screen raised Special Defense!
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Bob's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #9
SharQueDo [test]'s Blastoise: 300 HP
Watertub's Bob: 315 HP

Begin Turn #10
Watertub withdrew Bob!
Watertub sent out Quagsire (Lv.100 Quagsire)!
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Blastoise used Surf!
Quagsire's Water Absorb made Surf useless!
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End of turn #10
SharQueDo [test]'s Blastoise: 300 HP
Watertub's Quagsire: 394 HP

Begin Turn #11
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Blastoise!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Breloom (Lv.100 Breloom)!
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Quagsire used Seismic Toss!
(100 damage)
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Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #11
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 178 HP
Watertub's Quagsire: 394 HP

Begin Turn #12
Breloom used Spore!
Quagsire fell asleep!
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Quagsire is fast asleep.
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Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #12
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 194 HP
Watertub's Quagsire: 394 HP (Slp)

Begin Turn #13
Breloom is tightening its focus!
Watertub withdrew Quagsire!
Watertub sent out Angel (Lv.100 Shedinja)!
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Breloom used Focus Punch!
Angel avoided damage with Wonder Guard!
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Watertub's team's Light Screen wore off!
Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #13
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 210 HP
Watertub's Angel: 1 HP

Begin Turn #14
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Breloom!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)!
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
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Watertub withdrew Angel!
Watertub sent out Bob (Lv.100 Claydol)!
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The sandstorm rages.
Bob's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #14
SharQueDo [test]'s Tyranitar: 342 HP
Watertub's Bob: 324 HP
Lucky prediction? I was actually testing for HP Ghost, but Sandstream is just as bad...

Begin Turn #15
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Tyranitar!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Celebi (Lv.100 Celebi)!
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Bob used Earthquake!
(43 damage)
It's not very effective...
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The sandstorm rages.
Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Celebi's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #15
SharQueDo [test]'s Celebi: 299 HP
Watertub's Bob: 324 HP

Begin Turn #16
Celebi used Calm Mind!
Celebi's Special Attack rose!
Celebi's Special Defense rose!
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Bob used Explosion!
(299 damage)
Celebi fainted!
Bob fainted!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Breloom (Lv.100 Breloom)!
Watertub sent out Fish (Lv.100 Lanturn)!
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The sandstorm rages.
Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Fish is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Fish's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #16
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 210 HP
Watertub's Fish: 454 HP
Claydol follows his comrade Eggy and goes bye bye when seeing the aggravating green thing.

Begin Turn #17
Breloom used Substitute!
Breloom made a Substitute!
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Fish used Thunder Wave!
Breloom's Substitute made it ineffective!
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The sandstorm rages.
Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Fish is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Fish's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #17
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 145 HP
Watertub's Fish: 454 HP

Begin Turn #18
Breloom is tightening its focus!
Fish used Surf!
The Substitute took damage for Breloom!
Breloom's Substitute faded!
It's not very effective...
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Breloom used Focus Punch!
(428 damage)
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The sandstorm rages.
Fish is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Fish fainted!
Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Watertub sent out Bird (Lv.100 Charizard)!
Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #18
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 145 HP
Watertub's Bird: 234 HP
SharQueDo [test]: whoa lanturn got lot hp
See, that wasn't a good thing, but because now I have a great matchup of Zard vs Breloom (Where breloom MUST switch to avoid OHKO), Zard can do his thing. Tho it is getting hit by stream...

Begin Turn #19
SharQueDo [test] withdrew Breloom!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Aerodactyl (Lv.100 Aerodactyl)!
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Watertub: lol yeah
Bird used Belly Drum!
Bird cut its own HP and maximied Attack!
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The sandstorm rages.
Bird is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Aerodactyl's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
Using Salac Berry, the Speed of Bird rose!
End of turn #19
SharQueDo [test]'s Aerodactyl: 278 HP
Watertub's Bird: 59 HP
SharQueDo [test]: :P
And now... max power

Begin Turn #20
Bird used Hidden Power!
(278 damage)
It's not very effective...
Aerodactyl fainted!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Blastoise (Lv.100 Blastoise)!
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The sandstorm rages.
Bird is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Blastoise is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Blastoise's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #20
SharQueDo [test]'s Blastoise: 300 HP
Watertub's Bird: 40 HP
Watertub: it's not like it has much else going for it :p

Begin Turn #21
Bird used Hidden Power!
(300 damage)
Blastoise fainted!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Tyranitar (Lv.100 Tyranitar)!
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The sandstorm rages.
Bird is buffeted by the sandstorm!
End of turn #21
SharQueDo [test]'s Tyranitar: 342 HP
Watertub's Bird: 21 HP
SharQueDo [test]: stupid haxes

Begin Turn #22
Bird used Earthquake!
(342 damage)
It's super effective!
Tyranitar fainted!
SharQueDo [test] sent out Breloom (Lv.100 Breloom)!
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The sandstorm rages.
Bird is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Breloom's Leftovers restored its HP a little!
End of turn #22
SharQueDo [test]'s Breloom: 145 HP
Watertub's Bird: 2 HP
SharQueDo [test]: luck... just luck

Begin Turn #23
Bird used Hidden Power!
(145 damage)
It's super effective!
Breloom fainted!

End Battle! Watertub wins!
Score: 0 to 3
SharQueDo [test]: gg...
Watertub: >_>
Watertub: gg
SharQueDo [test]: ****ing haxes

NetBattle v0.9.3
Log saved 11/10/04 at 12:55:01 PM

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This is why I love drumzards. It's not that Swordszard sucks, but I always have trouble keeping things alive, so a speed sweeper style of Charizard is perfect for me.

There ya go, comments?

(Also, are battlelogs allowed here? :X)

 

[Frostweaver]

Battlelogs are certainly allowed last time I checked.

Besides the 2 hp luck factor, there's also another luck factor: Tyranitar

Tyranitar's sandstream actually did more help than pain for Charizard's part (well for poor Shedinja that's another case XD). Without the sandstorm damage after 1 sub and 1 drum, the salac berry won't activate as it's right on the border of 25%, while you need your hp lower than 25% to kick in the berry... Though technically, you can say that you can sub again to lower your hp to 1 I suppose... >>;

Meh. I don't know what I'm saying. It's probably just that I'm highly biased against hating sub+drum zard last time I used one... so terribly angry that Zard still didn't get one single sweep after activating salac at 1 hp with drum and even a sub out >>;

 

[Mana Lugia]

Actually, I have the EVs set up so it WOULD activate at 25%, seeing as Charizard's max HP is divisible by 4. So Sandstream actually did bad =/ *I mean my zard's Max HP*

 

[Frostweaver]

O.o; but doesn't berries only activate if the amount of hp you got is *lower* than 25%, not just right on 25%? Because if that is the case, why's the common magic formula x/4 + 1, instead of just x/4? Like, if it's available to activate a berry at 25% hp instead of 1 hp, then obviously... people should know what to take...

Then again, I've never used sub/berry enough to know... I only used it a few times with Alakazam a LONG time ago...

 

[Toothache]

Magic formula is x/4 + 1 because that gives you the chance to go as low as 1 HP, especially useful for Reversal users, just by using Sub and nothing else. It's a slight cheat that gets you four Substitutes instead of 3.

 

[Frostweaver]

Yes I know. But wrong situation here... I was wondering why the activation for berries is also x/4 + 1... if berries also activate if hp is x/4... ._.; Best way is for someone to try it again with the absense of the sandstream/other influences, and then post a battle log here.

 

[Demonion]

x/4 is subbing to berry, x/4+1 is subbig to berry and reversal/flail i think

 

[Mana Lugia]

yes, X/4 is to activate berry ASAP, while X/4+1 is only applicable for people who want to activate the berry AND have the least HP left over. (Not much point in reversaling if you have 25% of your HP left, eh)