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Begginer's D/P team

Mizuken

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    This is an in game team that I expect to see plenty of revisions. Here it goes.
    PLZ rate

    Empoleon
    Mild
    -Drill peck
    -Brine or Surf
    -Flash Canon
    -Ice beam

    Abomasnow
    Adamant
    -Woodhammer
    -Earthquake
    -Ice punch
    -Ingrain

    Claydol
    Sassy
    -toxic
    -cosmic power
    -rest
    -psychic or rapid spin

    Honchkrow
    Jolly
    -night slash
    -areal ace
    -Double team or haze
    -Swagger or Thunder Wave

    Giratina
    Naughty
    -Dragon claw
    -Shadow claw
    -Aura sphere
    -Will-o-wisp

    Edit: Ninjask
    Naive or Hasty
    -substitute
    -sword dance
    -baton pass
    -silver wind or dig
     
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    *start electricfield
    Mizuken said:
    This is an in game team that I expect to see plenty of revisions. Here it goes.
    PLZ rate

    Empoleon
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Agility
    - Surf / Hydro Pump
    - Flash Cannon
    - Ice beam
    The only thing Empoleon will ever be good at is Special Sweeping.

    Abomasnow
    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
    -Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake / Focus Punch
    -Ice Beam
    -Substitute
    Ingrain only lures in Charizard. Ingrain is useless anyway.

    Claydol
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Reflect
    - Land Power / Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    I'd prolly run mine with Earthquake.

    Honchkrow
    Jolly
    - night slash
    - Drill Peck
    - Haze
    - Thunder Wave
    Hax moves are for fags.

    Giratina
    Naughty
    -Dragon claw
    -Shadow claw
    -Aura sphere
    -Will-o-wisp
    Dunno what I can do for you here.

    Edit: Ninjask
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    -substitute
    -sword dance
    -baton pass
    -silver wind or dig
    Ninjask sucks anyway. No point in using it IMO.
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    This team desperately screams for Tyranitar and/or Gyarados to do a gang-bang sex job on it.
    *end electricfield
     
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    Instead of ninjask how about..

    Lucario
    -close combat
    -extreme speed
    -sword dance
    -flash canon
     
    abomasnow's new ability will draw a snow storm which makes Blizzard's accuracy 100%, so be sure to go for that rather ice beam.

    also, flash cannon is a special attack. why not abuse swords dance? i'd go for either stone edge, blaze kick or crunch.
     
    Due to the theoretical lack of tm's and possibly laziness, would these revised movesets be fine?


    Empoleon
    Modest
    -Flash canon
    -Brine or Surf
    -Agility
    -Ice beam

    Abomasnow
    brave
    -Woodhammer
    -Earthquake
    -blizzard
    -substitute

    Claydol
    Sassy
    -earth power
    -reflect
    -rapid spin
    -grass knot or ice beam

    Honchkrow
    Jolly
    -night slash
    -drill peck
    -haze
    -Thunder Wave

    Giratina
    Naughty
    -Dragon claw
    -Shadow claw
    -Aura sphere
    -Will-o-wisp

    Lucario
    adamant
    -close combat
    -extremespeed
    -sword dance
    -stone edge *I was also thinking maybe I should make a special lucario instead.*
     
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    Mizuken said:
    Due to the theoretical lack of tm's and possibly laziness, would these revised movesets be fine?


    Empoleon
    Modest
    -Flash canon
    -Surf / Hydro Pump
    -Agility
    -Ice beam
    Okay

    Abomasnow
    brave
    -Woodhammer
    -Earthquake
    -blizzard / Ice Beam
    -substitute
    Unless it's a D/P only feature, far as I understand Hail doesn't make Blizzard 100% accurate. Besides, you're going to have Sandstorm to worry about.

    Claydol
    Sassy
    -earth power
    -reflect
    -rapid spin
    -Ice Beam
    Stick with Ice Beam.

    Honchkrow
    Jolly
    -night slash
    -drill peck
    -haze
    -Thunder Wave
    Okay.

    Giratina
    Naughty
    -Dragon claw
    -Shadow claw
    -Aura sphere
    -Will-o-wisp
    Still leaving this one alone

    Lucario
    adamant
    -close combat
    -extremespeed
    -sword dance
    -stone edge *I was also thinking maybe I should make a special lucario instead.*
    Replace this with Heracross IMO.
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    I dunno if Honchkrow will do you any good, so I'd probably replace that with LS Zapdos. This is what I run:

    Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Raiden
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 136 Spd / 96 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hidden Power (Ice)
    - Roost
    - Light Screen

    EDIT: How stupid of me not to mention a good Heracross set =(

    Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 76 HP / 180 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Stone Edge
    - Close Combat
    - Megahorn
    This dude wrecks a LOT more than Lucario will ever hope to do.
     
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    Empoleon w/Leftovers
    'Torrent' : Ups (Water) attacks when HP is low.
    <Bold : +Def / -Att>
    * Surf
    * Ice Beam
    * Grass Knot
    * Yawn / * Stealth Rock

    <This is the Anti~Bulky Water / Bulky Water. *Yawn helps you usher in Choicers who may not be able to switch in any more due to low health. It also works as a Psuedo~Haze. *Stealth Rock is just general team support.>

    Abomasnow w/Adherence Glasses
    'Snowstorm' : Weather is changed to *Hail.
    <Modest : +Sat / -Att>
    * Blizzard
    * Energy Ball
    * Focus Blast
    * HP(Electric) / * Shadowball

    <*Blizzard is 100% in *Hail in D/P. It's really the only reason to use this guy. His double STAB is a nasty combo. You won't need to worry about *Sandstorm since *Hail will cancel it out. If a Tyranitar / Hipowdon switches in on you - you should switch out anyway since you are Choiced.>

    Claydol w/Leftovers
    'Levitate' : Immune to (Ground) attacks.
    <Bold : +Def / -Att>
    * Earth Power
    * Ice Beam
    * Rapid Spin
    * Stealth Rock / * Reflect

    <I prefer *Stealth Rock but Whateva Man. *Rapid Spinners are less valuable InGame but it's your team.>

    Honchkrow - I'm clueless.

    Giratina - I don't use UBERS.

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    If you are replacing Lucario with Heracross than i'd use a Choice set. I like...

    Heracross w/Adherence Scarf
    'Guts' : Boosts Att x1.5 when inflicted with status effect.
    <Adament : +Att / -Sat>
    * Close Combat
    * Megahorn
    * Stone Edge
    * Pursuit / * Blade Test

    <You could go ChoiceBand too just use <Jolly> nature. I love *Pursuit Competitively but *Blade Test is better InGame since the bad A.I. never switches.>
     
    Silly rabbit, in game team rates are for nobody. Seriously, everything works ingame.
     
    DDBoahTar wrote:

    Silly rabbit, in game team rates are for nobody. Seriously, everything works ingame.
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    Silly Rabbit - Stupid posts are for Douchebags who have nothing better to do than SPAM.

    J/K - DDBoahTar but don't make pointless posts like this anymore. It's a waste of space.

    I mean Very Observant.

    The InGame A.I. is terrible.

    You are the 1st person ever to point this out.

    Feel cool yet?

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    With WiFi coming soon people are going to need to take InGame rates more seriously. I'm not going to be playing on Netbattle / Competitor as much as i would with this possible. I have always built my InGame pokes competitively and will continue too.

    I just don't understand the logic of doing something wrong just because he A.I. isn't smart enough to punish you for it.

    If you were any good at all - you would know the pokes aren't as good as they could be - so shouldn't that be enough?
     
    For Competitive reasons how about

    Porygon Z
    download
    <Modest>
    -agility/substitute
    -shadow ball
    -psychic
    -hyper beam
     
    Here's a better idea for PorygonZ

    PorygonZ @ Leftovers
    Ability: Adaptability
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Nasty Plot
    - Tri Attack
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt

    Yeah I kind of like that setup a lot better
     
    For Competitive i like...

    Porygon Z w/Choice Specs
    'Download' : Raises Att/Sat x1.5 depending on Opponent's Def/Sdf.
    <Modest : +Sat / -Att>
    * Thunderbolt
    * Ice Beam
    * Shadow Ball
    * HyperBeam

    <This guy can melt Blissey with *HyperBeam. He might need 'Adaptive' to 1HKO but this guy is straight up NUCLEAR. If you wanted a second STAB you can replace *Thunderbolt/*Ice Beam with *Tri-Attack but I'd leave *ShadowBall on there because you will be seeing your fair share of (Ghost) types to foil *HyperBeam.>
     
    White Lotus said:
    For Competitive i like...

    Porygon Z w/Choice Specs
    'Download' : Raises Att/Sat x1.5 depending on Opponent's Def/Sdf.
    <Modest : +Sat / -Att>
    * Psychic
    * Ice Beam
    * Shadow Ball
    * HyperBeam

    <This guy can melt Blissey with *HyperBeam. He might need 'Adaptive' to 1HKO but this guy is straight up NUCLEAR. If you wanted a second STAB you can replace *Thunderbolt/*Ice Beam with *Tri-Attack but I'd leave *ShadowBall on there because you will be seeing your fair share of (Ghost) types to foil *HyperBeam.>
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    I agree with HyperBeam, but geez, do you really need Ice Beam and Thunderbolt? They'll both deal with flying, and competitively, you shouldn't be using Z against a water type anyway. Use Psychic to deal with your nasty Fighting type enemies and those Poison types using Toxic.
     
    NutriSweet said:
    I agree with HyperBeam, but geez, do you really need Ice Beam and Thunderbolt? They'll both deal with flying, and competitively, you shouldn't be using Z against a water type anyway. Use Psychic to deal with your nasty Fighting type enemies and those Poison types using Toxic.
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    Thunderbolt is apparently the only good filler that P-Z can get. Toxic is useless on it. Thunderbolt is there to kill off Water Types, and Ice Beam for killing Dragon Types.

    And a Tri Attack, coming from STAB and Adaptability does just as much damage than a SE Psychic attack. =/
     
    So Porygon Z should flee from (Water) types but stay in against (Fight) types?

    It goes Puff~Puff~Pass Man. You've been Bogarding that blunt for way too long. Let us get some of that.

    These are the 6 attacks Porygon Z should be using...

    *Tri-Attack / *HyperBeam / *Shadow Ball / *Thunderbolt / *Ice Beam / *Nasty Plot

    *Nasty Plot is out because you are using Choice Specs so you need to choose between those 5 attacks. *Psychic is not an option because Porygon Z has way too many good attacks to be carrying that.

    If you are going to lose *Thunderbolt / *Ice Beam than replace it with *Tri-Attack and change the ability to 'Adaptive'. With just *Hyper Beam i'd stick with 'Download'.

    For future general reference save *Psychic for those that get STAB off of it.
     
    Hyper Beam means that Rhyperior can come in for a clean-shotted Focus Punch. ._.
     
    Then its settled

    Porygon Z
    Adaptibility
    <modest>
    -hyper beam*
    -tri-attack*
    -shadow ball
    -thunderbolt

    *-these moves have stab plus adaptability.
     
    As long as you don't use Hyper Beam so anything can come in and Focus Punch / Close Combat the thing to hell, you're fine.
     
    Mizuken said:
    Then its settled

    Porygon Z
    Adaptibility
    <modest>
    -hyper beam*
    -tri-attack*
    -shadow ball
    -ice beam

    *-these moves have stab plus adaptability.
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    No! Ice is strong against Grass, Ground, Flying, AND Dragon. Electric is only strong against Water and Flying. Ice wins.
     
    NutriSweet said:
    No! Ice is strong against Grass, Ground, Flying, AND Dragon. Electric is only strong against Water and Flying. Ice wins.
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    And Gyarados is strong against PorygonZ. Gyarados Wins.
     
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