Best moves for my Sapphire Team

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    Here's my team:
    >>Swampert
    ability: torrent
    nature: quiet
    moves: protect, ice beam, earthquake, surf
    >>Blaziken
    ability:blaze
    nature:relaxed
    moves: slash, aerial ace, sky uppercut, flamethrower
    >>Gardevior
    ability:trace
    nature:impish
    moves: dream eater, calm mind, hypnosis, psychic
    >>Sceptile
    ability: overgrow
    nature:lonely
    moves: false swipe, thunder punch, leaf blade, detect
    >>Rayquaza
    ability:air lock
    nature:mild
    moves: fly, dragon claw, extreemspeed, hyper beam
    >>aggron
    ability:rock head
    nature:lax
    moves: thunderbolt, water pulse, earthquake, metal sound

    Please tell me what's wrong with my team[the moves of the pokemon]....THANK YOU!!!! ü
     
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    pokemonmastah said:
    Here's my team:
    >>Swampert
    ability: torrent
    nature: Brave(+Atk, -Spd)
    moves: Curse, ice beam/surf, earthquake, Rest

    Cursepert. IB or Surf is your choice. I say IB.

    >>Blaziken
    ability:blaze
    nature:relaxed
    moves: Rock Slide, Earthquake, sky uppercut, flamethrower

    Take advantage of its good base Atk (120) with more effective physical moves. Also be careful about having too many mixed sweepers. They are difficult to get Natures, where usually you end up sacraficing defense or speed. Not to mention the EVs spreads are tricky.

    >>Gardevior
    ability:trace
    nature:Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
    moves: Thunderbolt, calm mind, hypnosis, psychic

    NEVER use Impish on a special sweeper since you wouldn't keep Gardevoir in against a physical attacker anyway. It needs the extra boost in SAtk. Also, TB>DE.

    >>Sceptile
    ability: overgrow
    nature:Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
    moves: Leech Seed, Ice punch, leaf blade, Substitute

    This little ***** is a lot of fun, especially with Leftovers. If you can, Seed on the switch and then get a Sub up, force a switch, and then Seed on that as well, the whole time LO has replenished the Sub HP loss.

    >>Rayquaza
    ability:air lock
    nature:Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
    moves: Aerial Ace, Earthquake, extreemspeed, Rock Slide

    Ugh. NEVER use Fly or Hyper Beam. Ever. RayRay should be a physical sweeper with Choice Band. Just swing away.

    >>aggron
    ability:rock head
    nature:lax
    moves: thunderbolt, water pulse, earthquake, metal sound

    I don't like Aggron enough to offer a good moveset. I suggest Metagross instead.

    Please tell me what's wrong with my team[the moves of the pokemon]....THANK YOU!!!! ü
    Not too bad, but you really need a better special wall.
     
    shanecdavis to my knowledge, sceptile doesnt learn ice punch. Use thunderpunch or HP ice if possible.
    Endeavor set for sceptile is way cool also.

    Aggron (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Rock Head
    EVs: 252 HP / 188 Atk / 68 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Rock Slide
    - Thunder Wave
    - Focus Punch
    - Substitute

    U could max attack and disperse the rest into hp and defense.But i rather the hp. 96 Sp EVs can help it outspeed weezing if ur doing any competitive battles.


    Agreeing with shane.You need a special wall.
     
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    I don't think he can change his natures if he already has this team trained. Also, that would impede his ability to get bred-on moves for starters.

    Also, pokemonmastah, learn about EVs and what they are and why they are important in the EV guide at the top of this forum.

    pokemonmastah said:
    Here's my team:
    >>Swampert
    ability: torrent
    nature: quiet
    moves:
    protect/Curse
    ice beam
    earthquake
    surf/Rest

    This set is actually good for in-game. But the standard is Curse over Protect and Rest over Surf. Since Curse is unobtainable without breeding, you'll still fare well with this one.

    >>Blaziken
    ability:blaze
    nature:relaxed
    moves:
    sky uppercut
    flamethrower
    Bulk Up/Swords Dance
    Rock Slide

    You're halfway there. You shouldn't use Slash or any other Normal moves on Pokemon who don't get STAB from them, since Normal attacks aren't supereffective against types that the user might be weak against. Instead, go with Rock Slide (Emerald tutor) since it takes care of Flying types that Blaziken has trouble against. Finally, drop the unnecessary Aerial Ace (Flamethrower is stronger and already supereffective against Grass and Bug types). Replace with Bulk Up (TM) or Swords Dance (tutor) to boost your Attack.


    >>Gardevior
    ability:trace
    nature:impish
    moves:
    calm mind
    hypnosis
    psychic
    Thunderbolt

    Don't use the Hypnosis+Dream Eater combo. Why? Because it takes two turns to use when you can simply use Psychic twice and deal over twice as much damage as once Dream Eater. Also, Hypnosis is very inaccurate and you'll miss quite often, making the combo take even longer to set up. It's just not worth it. Also, you're helpless against Dark and Steel Pokemon. Thunderbolt ensures that you can at least hit those types.


    >>Sceptile
    ability: overgrow
    nature:lonely
    moves:
    thunder punch
    leaf blade
    Substitute
    Leech Seed/Endeavor

    I don't know why people think Sceptile can learn Ice Punch. Thunderpunch is the only elemental punch that it can learn. Anyways, get rid of crappy False Swipe and useless Detect for the much more useful Substitute. Unfortunately, Leech Seed and Endeavor (Sceptile's best 4th attacks) are bred-on moves, so unless your Sceptile is Female, you're gonna have to get a new one.


    >>Rayquaza
    ability:air lock
    nature:mild
    moves:
    extreemspeed
    Aerial Ace
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake

    Ugh, this Rayquaza is probably the worst one on your team. I can rant on about why Hyper Beam is a horrible move, but I don't have time and all you should know is that Hyper Beam SUCKS. Actually so does Fly. Notice a pattern here? Moves that take 2 turns like Fly and Hyper Beam (unavoidable recharge) are generally bad and should not be used. Go with the Dragon Dancing set. You'll see how much better it is than your original set.


    >>aggron
    ability:rock head
    nature:lax
    moves: thunderbolt, water pulse, earthquake, metal sound

    Actually, I take that back. Aggron might be your worst Pokemon on this team. You're giving Special moves to it, but have you ever looked at Aggron's Special Attack? It's terribly low! Go with Ice demon's set.

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    aragornbird said:
    I don't know why people think Sceptile can learn Ice Punch.
    Bad research on my part. I had it written down incorrectly once and still haven't fixed it. It is fixed now.
     
    Lol, I bet you got that from blueshirt 32's FAQ where he listed Ice Punch on Sceptile as an April Fool's joke.

    pokemonmastah, consider the weaknesses of your team. Right now, I see that Swampert can do considerable damage to your team, especially if it predicts Sceptile and uses Ice Beam on the switch. I know this is in-game, but still, it's goodd to know that for future purposes.
     
    Synchronize said:
    Lol, I bet you got that from blueshirt 32's FAQ where he listed Ice Punch on Sceptile as an April Fool's joke.
    Possibly. I cannot remember where I got it from, but I checked Metal Kid's program and it shows IB for a possible Sceppy moveset too. Maybe that is where his sets come from, as well. LOL

    BTW - what would you consider a good counter to Pert since its only weakness is Grass, which it has a great counter to?
     
    How do I change the nature of a pokemon? What's a EV? DO I have to change some pokemon on my team? I cant really choose.... THANKS! ü
     
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    pokemonmastah said:
    Here's my team:
    >>Swampert
    ability: torrent
    nature: quiet
    moves: Toxic/Curse/Return, ice beam, earthquake, surf
    >>Blaziken
    ability:blaze
    nature:relaxed
    moves: Rock Slide/Earthquake/Bulk Up,Rock Slide/Earthquake/Bulk Upflamethrower, sky uppercut
    >>Gardevior Horrible!
    ability:trace
    nature:impish
    moves: T-bolt, I-punch, F-punch calm mind, T-bolt, I-punch, F-punch, psychic
    >>Sceptile
    ability: overgrow
    nature:lonely
    moves: Leech Seed/Toxic/Sub, thunder punch, leaf blade, Leech Seed/Toxic/Sub
    >>Rayquaza
    ability:air lock
    nature:mild
    moves: Aeriel Ace, dragon claw, extreemspeed, Flamethrower/T-bolt
    >>aggron NEVER EVER LET AGGRON LEARN ANYTHING BUT PHYSICAL ATTACKS!!!
    ability:rock head
    nature:lax
    moves: Rock Slide, Earthquake, Iron Tail, Double-Edge (no recoil because of Rock Head)

    Please tell me what's wrong with my team[the moves of the pokemon]....THANK YOU!!!! ü

    Not the best team, not hardly...

    Gardevior(Rating:5)-Use the 3 elemental punchs and/or Thunderbolt, not just Psychic moves. What will happen when a Houndoom is around the corner...

    Aggron(Rating:1.2)-HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE! Use some sense! Probably a standard aggron at level 100 has a Sp. Atk of 105-120. NOT GOOD AT ALL! Though that Aggron's will probably be around 250-300. GOOD! Think a bit harder...

    Rayquaza(Rating:5.6)-Fly and Hyper Beam SUCK! Truthfully, recharging isn't good and Fly gets too inaccurate. Why not use Aeriel Ace?

    Swampert(Rating:8.6)-Not too bad. Earthquake, Surf, and Ice Beam are great moves. Protect fails too much. And for does it matter? It's only against moves such as Solarbeam, Dig, Fly, and Hyper Beam.

    Blazikin(Rating:4.5)-Slash and Aeriel Ace?!? BIG NO NO! Bulk Up a bit (can also make up for majorly low defense) and Slash, well, why not use Rock Slide/Earthquake, it might be against something...

    Sceptile(Rating:5)-False Swipe: Weak. Detect: Not Successful. Use Leech Seed and/or Toxic to "take down the bar" more. Sub and Leech Seed are really successful, considering that you can regain some of the HP you used to Sub.
     
    That wasnt very nice cipher wtv=P but he is right. I won't bother on your rong natures as I doubt you're gonna start all over...


    pokemonmastah said:
    Here's my team:
    >>Swampert
    ability: torrent
    nature: quiet
    moves: protect, ice beam, earthquake, surf

    I like the sub/focus punch (substitute, fpunch, earthquake, protect) but this one is ok. Counter and protect combo ain't bad. Sleep talk, rest, hydro pump, EQ is good as well


    >>Blaziken
    ability:blaze
    nature:relaxed
    moves: slash, aerial ace, sky uppercut, flamethrower

    Rong... Use sword dance, earthquake/rock slide, sky uppercut/brick break, overheat
    OR!!! the all predictable. Reversal, endure, overheat, sword dance


    >>Gardevior
    ability:trace
    nature:impish
    moves: dream eater, calm mind, hypnosis, psychic

    Its ok but i dont like the dream eater combo. Will-O-wisp, Calm mind, Psychic, Tbolt

    >>Sceptile
    ability: overgrow
    nature:lonely
    moves: false swipe, thunder punch, leaf blade, detect

    False swipe sucks. Its impossible to kill something with it.... If you want you can Substitute, leaf blade, leech seed, and filler. But u might've used sub on something else. So u might wanna use another pokemon alltogether

    >>Rayquaza
    ability:air lock
    nature:mild
    moves: fly, dragon claw, extreemspeed, hyper beam

    Sucks lol! I like Dragon dance, earthquake, ariel ace, rock slide. But u prolly use rock slide on something else. PS get salamence as ppl will say u suck if u use an uber like rayquaza

    >>aggron
    ability:rock head
    nature:lax
    moves: thunderbolt, water pulse, earthquake, metal sound

    Quoting mullet when I say "Hi I'm Aggron and I suck" He really sucks. All that defence and two quad weaknesses to ground and fighting, two popular attack types. Use skarmory save yourself

    Please tell me what's wrong with my team[the moves of the pokemon]....THANK YOU!!!! ü


    Bye Bye sceptile, rayquaza, and aggron for something, sala, and skarmory.
     
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