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Best Substitute/Reversal (Focus punch) Pok?mon

filisek

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    Please,can you recommend me the best pok?mon with substitute+reversal (focus punch)?I need to fill the other moves too.Thanks
     
    Heracross@Salac Berry
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Reversal
    -Megahorn

    That's the best subrever that can use focus punch IMO. For UU teams, Hitmonlee is great.

    Hitmonlee@Salac Berry
    -Substitute
    -Reversal
    -HP Ghost
    -Rock Slide

    I wouldn't recommend using a subrever in normal battles because Tyranitar is very popular and sandstream wrecks subrevers. In UU, the strategy works fine. Take care.

    P.S. If you can't get Salac Berry in-game, use Liechi Berry.
     
    DragonKing said:
    Heracross@Salac Berry
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Reversal
    -Megahorn

    That's the best subrever that can use focus punch IMO. For UU teams, Hitmonlee is great.
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    Gengar > your set
     
    how about hariyama:
    belly drum
    sub
    reversal
    hp ghost
     
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    it gets 328 speed with berry, and i switched rest for sub
     
    kirby00 said:
    it gets 328 speed with berry, and i switched rest for sub
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    Since Hariyama will most likely attack last, endure is your only chance.

    Your welcome Filisek.
     
    If u want Subflailers then you cant go past Zangoose and Kingdra. Kabutops is also one of the best UU subflailers IMO.

    Zangoose@Salac

    ~Sub
    ~Flail
    ~Quick Attack (Take that other Subrevvers/flailers)
    ~HP Ghost/Shadow Ball (Cant remember if he gets SB)

    Kabutops@Salac

    ~Sub
    ~Flail
    ~Rock Slide/HP Rock
    ~Swords Dance

    The best bit about Kabutops is his rock typing saves him from Sandstorms.

    Kingdra@Liechi/Salac

    ~Dragon Dance
    ~Sub
    ~Flail
    ~HP Steel
     
    I used a

    Sub
    FP
    Mega Horn
    HP: Ghost

    Hera
    and it worked against ghosts but, it had other problems
     
    wut about medicham? he gets sub, reversal, shadow ball, and either i give him hp rock/ return/ fpunch.
     
    I usaully go sub/bb/rev/shadow ball. BB is just so I dont have to rev stuff like ttar and aggron.
     
    CB Heracross > Gengar, it OHKO's with Megahorn, I've had it done to me before.

    It actually wiped my whole team, so I need to cover my CBMegaCross weakness.

    SubREVVER = Medicham.
    SubFOCUSPUNCHER = Gengar or Dragonite
    SubFLAILER = Kingdra and Zangoose
     
    why did every1 forget linoone?
    belly drum, sub/endure, flail, sball/extreme speed.
    ppl will be very surpised he has flail as no1 hardly uses it. also itll probably surprise alot of ppl reading this thread lol.
    shadow ball is for ghost, but i like extreme speed, esp since alot of ppl try to qa sub/flailers/revvers, but u at least can rely on hax to beat them, also if u have extrme speed, ppl will think its the standard moveset. holla!

    another unexpected:
    smeargle: spore, belly drum, sub, flail/reversal
    sure he can do more, but its fun 2 sweep with sumthing they dont expect.

    also for hera:
    flail, sub, reversal, hp ghost/focus punch/mega horn
    (prob no need for focus since u got reversal, hp ghost goes good w/ fighting types like reversal, or use megahorn, but it does miss enough to make a difference)
     
    I'm thinking this:

    It's weird, but it works and I have swept with it before.

    Dodrio @ Choice Band
    -Substitute
    -Flail
    -Hidden Power Steel
    -Drill Peck

    The idea is to Sub to 1HP, and switch, then bring him back in later and hope TTar hasn't brang in his Sandstream, if you can get Dodrio back in later (After one of your pokemon dies preferably), you can pull off a decent Flail, since it'll be like, 200pwr + STAB + CB = I don't know, but it's big.

    Also, he hits 328 Spd with Nature, so he can outspeed most things ^_^.

    Just noticed Linoone could pull this off to.
     
    ya, but it would be better to just use belly drum, and sub (even at 25% life its prob stronger cuz he got 956 max attack, or just sub at 1)

    Just go smeargle: bp, cosmic power, spore, sub- bp to linoone: have him just kick *** w/ flail/extrme speed (depending on life)
     
    Linoone is obviously better with access to Belly Drum, but the CBSubFlailing tactic works well with Dodrio.
     
    i like heracross, b/c (except for vigaroth, slaking and smearlge) he is the only pokemon to be able 2 learn both reversal and flail. and he has good attack too!

    vigaroth:
    endure/sub
    flail
    reversal
    shadow ball/bulk-up
     
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