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    My first team, I made some minor revisions.

    Swampert@Lefties
    Relaxed/Impish(Didn't check IVs yet)
    252 HP/200 Atk/56 Sp def
    Waterfall
    EQ
    Curse
    Avalanche

    My lead, he covers an insane amount of types and puts a stopper in Aerodactyl.

    Starmie@Life Orb
    Timid
    252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
    Surf
    Ice beam
    T-bolt
    Psychic

    Thats right, all out Sp sweeper Starmie. I dont need him as a spinner because I have..

    Forretress@Lefties
    Impish
    252 HP/80 atk/176 def
    Gyro Ball
    Explosion
    Spikes
    Rapid spin

    Spikespinner and physical wall.

    Togekiss@Lefties
    252 HP/100 Sp atk/156 Sp def
    Air Slash
    Aura sphere
    T-wave
    Roost

    Mediocre special wall,Annoyer, and he could sweep when he gets a t-wave in.

    Electivire@Expert Belt
    252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
    Thunder punch
    Ice punch
    EQ
    Cross chop

    Standard 'Vire, he protects Starmie.

    Salamence@Focus Sash
    Adamant
    252 Atk/(Enough speed to reach 280)/(Remaining in HP or Sp atk)
    Dragon Claw
    DD
    EQ
    Fire blast

    Yes, I get it. Lonely is better. But, I have an adamant Ditto and not a lonely one, so meh.

    Feel free to ridicule, rate and make easy to make changes to this team :x
     
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    Consider rest over waterfall on swampert for more staying power...looks pretty strong overall...
     
    Also, I recommend T-bolt on Vire...I mean, skarm is an annoying pig that is so fun to just ZAP! But do whatever...
     
    Hmm, that makes sense. On forry, you can always max defense, which I always do for some reason, but there is no flaw in your EV spread.
     
    Noglaring flaws I see...though I'm not big on togekiss the special wall...especially being weak to ice beam, but no real flaws regardless...
     
    CB blissey FTW! Seriously though, bliss might be your best option...though I hate to recommend that puffball. MAybe snorlax would work. It is a beast. and shrugs off staus with rest.
     
    You know, Hypno using CM may be UU, but it works better than you'd think.
     
    Cakekun said:
    My first team, I made some minor revisions.

    Swampert@Lefties
    Relaxed/Impish(Didn't check IVs yet)
    240 HP / 48 Atk / 80 Def / 140 SDef
    Waterfall / Rest
    Earthquake / Rest
    Curse
    Avalanche

    My lead, he covers an insane amount of types and puts a stopper in Aerodactyl.
    Since you're running Rest, then it wouldn't hurt to run more SDef EVs.

    Starmie@Life Orb
    Timid
    252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
    Surf
    Ice beam
    T-bolt
    Psychic / Grass Knot
    Workable. Grass Knot could help against other Swamperts.

    Forretress@Leftovers
    Relaxed
    252 HP/80 atk/176 def
    Gyro Ball
    Explosion
    Spikes
    Rapid spin

    Spikespinner and physical wall.
    Relaxed Nature ensures Gyro Ball attacking at full power.

    Togekiss@Lefties
    252 HP/100 Sp atk/156 Sp def
    Air Slash
    Aura sphere
    T-wave
    Roost

    Mediocre special wall,Annoyer, and he could sweep when he gets a t-wave in.
    FLINCH BARRAGE!!!!111ONEONE

    Electivire@Expert Belt
    52 HP / 232 Atk / 176 Spd / 48 SAtk
    Thunderbolt
    Ice punch
    EQ
    Cross chop

    Standard 'Vire, he protects Starmie.
    Thunderbolt since Skarmory can withtake a Thunderpunch and Roar it.

    Salamence@Focus Sash
    Adamant
    48 HP / 252 Atk / 136 Spd / 72 SAtk
    Dragon Claw
    DD
    EQ
    Fire blast

    Yes, I get it. Lonely is better. But, I have an adamant Ditto and not a lonely one, so meh.
    You only really need 270 Spd to operate Dragon Dance.
    Beware of Sand Stream and Snow Warning.

    Feel free to ridicule, rate and make easy to make changes to this team :x
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    Might want to get some status resisters. Possibly Snorlax, and you can plot all kinds of havoc with Heracross. Take a Burn, and strike at boosted power!
     
    Cakekun said:
    My first team, I made some minor revisions.

    Swampert@Lefties
    Relaxed/Impish(Didn't check IVs yet)
    252 HP/200 Atk/56 Sp def
    Waterfall
    EQ
    Curse
    Avalanche
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    Curse Swampert is amazing. However, his use is slightly limited. Here's the setup for a basic Cursepert:

    Swampert @ Chesto Berry
    Impish Nature (since you won't be using Special Attack at all)
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
    - Earthquake
    - Curse
    - Rest
    - Waterfall/Avalanche/Rock Slide

    The first three moves are absolutely required on Cursepert. And the EVs help out, too. What you do, is wait until his counter are down, and then send him in against Metagross or something (unless it has Explosion!), and start to Curse up. Once you feel you've got enough, Rest of the damage taken, Chesto Berry is a free heal, and continue to sweep.

    However! The last move is up to preference. When you have Waterfall, something like Tauntrados can totally screw you up. Even with Avalanche, Tauntrados walls this guy pretty bad. Rock Slide has always been my preference, although then Claydol is asking to kill him. Avalanche may actually be the way to go, since it has the best type coverage of all (hits Skarmory for neutral damage, and makes him capable of taking on Dragons), and you get neutral damage on Gyarados. If you've already Cursed up a bit, Gyarados won't be able to out-wall you.

    So, depending on what move you choose for the last slot, make sure you scout your opponent's team for counters before you even think about using Curse. The only Pokemon I know of who can lead, boost and sweep an entire team is Tauntrados, and, to a lesser extent, Dragon Dance Salamence.

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    Also, in regards to the post above, don't even bother putting EVs into Electivire's HP. He's a sweeper, and should remain that way. Only time HP/Defense is worth note on a pure sweeper is when their Defense/Special Defense is also high, like Metagross.

    Same thing on Salamence, no HP EVs, especially if you're running Focus Sash. 252 Attack to take full benefits from Dragon Dance, and even with an Adamant nature, Fire Blast is going to do some serious damage to Skarmory. Although it will likely be a 2KO, it will still make him think twice about switching into him. And since he is Adamant, no EVs in Special Attack. 252 in Speed ensures that after a single Dragon Dance he can outrun almost anything.
     
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    Cakekun said:
    Ah, thanks. I guess I'll use Mence to lead then :x I had to use impish Forry because his Defense IVs were teh awesomeness :x EDIT: Starmie can absorb status. I think O_o
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    Yeah, with Natural Cure, but Sweeper Starmie isn't bulky enough to be able to freely switch. Although it can be done, Milotic pulls it off sooooo much better.

    Also, take note of my EV corrections for Iceman's suggestions. I edited the above post.
     
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