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3rd Gen Can I Beat The E4 No Pots With This?

Ivan017

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    • Seen Jun 14, 2007
    ok currently this is who i have for my party and i was wondering if i could beat the e4 with no pots. Heres my line up.

    Venasaur 56
    Cut
    Razor Blade
    Frenzy Plant
    Giga Drain

    Zapdos 63
    Thunder
    Drill Peck
    Flash
    Fly

    Moltres 52
    Flamethrower
    Fire Blast
    Fire Spin
    Endure

    Raichu 24
    Shock Wave
    Strength
    Dig
    Slam

    Articuno 51
    Ice Beam
    Mist
    Agility
    Mind Reader

    Dratini 25
    Wrap
    Dragon Rage
    Thunder Wave
    Twister


    so far the best i've done (where i am right now) is i've just beaten agatha and 2 of pokemon are fainted (venasaur and moltres) zapdos is at 18 health and all the rest are full can i beat it or can i retry and beat it?
     
    There is no way you can beat it without pots with that team, wayy too unbalanced. Plus, 2 guys under level 30, and another 2 guys low 50's? Not happening.
     
    Nope no possible way.. train your raichu and dratini more and you will..
     
    You move sets suck horribly. Try posting this in the teams thread(it's at the top of the thread list) and someone should come along with good moves and whatnot. Don't use HM moves on pokemon unless it's surf though. Fly, cut, and flash are worthless.
     
    You really don't need an "ultimate team" of level 60s. Mid to high 50's should do. You should train Raichu more (even thought you evolved it too early), it can take down many Pokemon. Dratini? VSeek away and train until Dragonair/Dragonite. They are powerful monsters anywhere. Everything else is good, though may want to train Articuno a few levels. Get rid of the crappy HM moves with the Move Deleter since you've reached the Indigo Plateu and can just fly there now, and you'll beat the Weak 5 in no time.
     
    I doubt it.

    For Venasaur, I suggest this:

    Venasaur @ Leftovers
    Ability: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 148 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, - SAtk)
    - Sleep Powder
    - Leech Seed
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Razor Leaf / Synthesis

    I don't know about you, but I think you require a lot of help to balance your team.
     
    ya i guess i just suck and since i don't want to restart and you can't get those moves in tm (i think) im screwed if anyone has msn and would like to help me balence my party add me a [email protected]
     
    Venasaur 56
    Cut
    Razor Blade
    Frenzy Plant
    Giga Drain
    Click to expand...


    There is no such move as Razorblade, but why would you even think about coming to the E4 with low level Pokemon unless if your rasing them.

    I though that you can get Moltres after the E4 because something won't let you go through, I'm not sure

    :t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
     
    I like your team, but it's a bit too weak for beating the e4.
    I think you should train your Raichu strong and also your Dratini :)
    Good luck :)
     
    i suggest that you do this:
    1: Evolve Dratini.
    2:moves for Dragonite:
    Dragon claw
    Flamethrower
    Thunderbolt
    Ice beam

    3: best nature: Hardy
    4: attach it Leftovers or Amulet Coin.

    Ps. Venusaur sucks, dont bother training it. train birds (all of them) to at least 56-100. Raichu is good for Lorelei, but thats it.
    Sorry, but your survival prosents are: 0
     
    Darkside said:
    i suggest that you do this:
    1: Evolve Dratini.
    2:moves for Dragonite:
    Dragon claw
    Flamethrower
    Thunderbolt
    Ice beam

    3: best nature: Hardy
    4: attach it Leftovers or Amulet Coin.

    Ps. Venusaur sucks, dont bother training it. train birds (all of them) to at least 56-100. Raichu is good for Lorelei, but thats it.
    Sorry, but your survival prosents are: 0
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    I lol at the bolded parts. First of all, Dragonite wants:

    Dragonite @ Leftovers
    Quiet/Brave

    Focus Punch
    Thunder/Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
    Substitute

    That or, a DDer, but the Subpuncher is more effective, at least in-game.

    Also, why use a neutral nature on a Dragonite with only special moves? Modest is the nature you want if you just have to go with a sucky, all-out special sweeping Draggy.

    Second, Venusaur does not suck. Hitsugaya Toushiro provided already provided a working moveset for Venusaur, (well, apart from the EVs. It's screaming for some Attack EVs.) and it owns everything you'll encounter in-game. Well, pretty much any Pokémon with a good moveset owns everything in-game, but that's beside the point, but it brings me to my next point: Raichu. Raichu is not completely worthless, (especially not in-game) but it serves the same job as Dragonite (Subpunching with an Electric attack added to the mix.) so it's quite redundant on the team and should be removed. (unless Ivan017 wants to remove Dragonite instead)

    Anyway, Articuno and Moltres suck hard without their XD moves, so ditch them and get some good physical masher like Snorlax or Rhydon, and maybe a special sweeper like Starmie, Kadabra (it requires breeding for the elemental punches, though.) or Exeggutor. As for Zapdos, give it:

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Whatever-your-Zappy's-nature-is (any nature works in-game and you can't change your Zapdos's nature anyway.)

    Thunderbolt/Thunder
    Drill Peck
    Rest
    Sleep Talk

    And there's no way you'll get through the e4 with half the members being weak to Rock. (Bruno's Onix's Rock Slide and Lance's Aerodactyl's Ancientpower, (a pathetic move, but still) anyone?) As I already said, Snorlax or Rhydon will already do wonders to your team so I highly suggest you train one of them.
     
    New Team

    ok i beat the elite four with everyone dead except zapdos who killed my rivals last pokemon using struggle (lol) i used 3 max potions and 8 revives but heres my new team i was wondering what you guys thought of it

    Zapdos Lvl 76
    Thunder
    Drill Peck
    N/a
    N/a

    Venasaur Lvl 59
    Giga Drain
    Razor Leaf
    Frenzy Plant
    Sludge Bomb

    Mewtwo Lvl 71
    Swift
    Recover
    Safeguard
    Psychic

    Articuno Lvl 53
    Ice Beam
    Fly

    Moltres
    Fire Spin
    Fire Blast
    Flamethrower

    Dragonair
    Dragon Rage
    Flamethrower
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
     
    Ivan017 said:
    ok i beat the elite four with everyone dead except zapdos who killed my rivals last pokemon using struggle (lol) i used 3 max potions and 8 revives but heres my new team i was wondering what you guys thought of it

    Zapdos Lvl 76
    Thunder
    Drill Peck
    N/a
    N/a

    Venasaur Lvl 59
    Giga Drain
    Razor Leaf
    Frenzy Plant
    Sludge Bomb

    Mewtwo Lvl 71
    Swift
    Recover
    Safeguard
    Psychic

    Articuno Lvl 53
    Ice Beam
    Fly

    Moltres
    Fire Spin
    Fire Blast
    Flamethrower

    Dragonair
    Dragon Rage
    Flamethrower
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
    Click to expand...

    Your Venesaur has 3 grass moves and a poison move. Bad call on that one. Moltres is suffering from the same problem. Fly sucks, stop using it!
     
    LawLessChaoz said:
    Hahahaha Razor Blade!!! ROTFLMAO:laugh:

    Good team bad moveset.
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    No, bad team, bad movesets. I've already said this once, but I'll say it again: Articuno and Zapdos suck without their XD moves due to their extremely limited movepools. 'Sides, they make the team scream out: ''Hey, Rock types! Come and rape me khtxbye!''
     
    There would be no way. Each of them would run out of PP sooner or later for their best moves, and would get crushed easily.
     
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