Can UU/BL beat OU?

Romance Hero said:
I may want to take some tutoring from Samson? I love making an interesting team, and I despise OU teams.
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I dunno but I have a feeling Samson is the guy your looking for in this case
 
Romance Hero said:
I may want to take some tutoring from Samson? I love making an interesting team, and I despise OU teams.
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I love OU teams...mostly because I design them not to be good as a unit, but to crush the other OUs...lol, it's not too bad a strategie actually.
 
Romance Hero said:
Ok, noob question. does CB work with skill link? if then, I can go with a cloyster in an ice team. And I still need a Strategy with mawile :/
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Yes, CB works with Skill Link. Although I don't see why Skill Link is the right trait to have with Cloyster. Planning to use Icicle Spear or Spike Cannon? Not a bad idea with Cloyster's base Atk at 95, but isn't he used more for the Spike-spinning or even potential Physical Walling? And besides Icicle Spear and Spike Cannon, wouldn't it's other purposes be to Spikes-spin anyway?

Let's give it a try...

Cloyster @ Choice Band
Trait: Skill Link
Brave (?) Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Toxic Spikes / Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Shard / Explosion

I'm at a loss for the CB Cloyster. Such few moves to complement its Atk. Icicle Spear + CB + STAB * Skill Link bonus would hurt, but it's totally hax. A completely unthought-of moveset for Cloyster from me. Yay.


EDIT: While on the topic of UU's, may I make a suggestion? Dunsparce makes awesome flinchhax in the UU tier with Serene Grace.

Dunsparce @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
Adamant Nature
- Body Slam (for STAB and paralysis)
- Headbutt (more STAB and flinching)
- Rock Slide (flinching again.)
- Bite (I forgot... Oh yeah, flinch.)


Just thinking out loud. =)
 
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I think many BLs have a better chance then some OUs, as the OUs also have OU counters (if that makes any sense)

So imagine their shock when they expect their pokemon to counter yours easily, and you pull something out that sweeps their team /overexagerration

BLs have the potential to do great, just there are OUs that do their job better, but countering them is less frequent as well
 
?!

What in the world is and OU?!
 
Maria Santos said:
What in the world is and OU?!
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Fine. I'll Explain

OU:Overused. Because of their movepool, stats, and/or abilities, these pokemon are very strong, can last in battles, and/or cripple teams not prepared. It doesn't necessarily mean EVERYONE uses them, rather its their rank in power.

Off the top of my head, here are a few OU's.

Salamence (He's so strong, he has multiple roles-Physical Special, or Mixed)

Weavile (Strong, Fast, & able to rip teams to shreads)

Bronzong (A great wall, & very hard to bring down. Unless you are prepared, get ready for a long, drawn out match.)

Tauros (Despite his small, limited movepool, it uses what it has VERY well, especially with Choice Band.)

BL: Borderline. These pokes are stronger than [most] UU, but aren't strong enough to consider them OU.

Some examples are:

Floatzel (His movepool is rather limited for a sweeper, but it can cause pain)


UU: Underused. These pokes usually have something to bring them down, such as poor movepool, bad stats, or, quite simply, an OU can do what they can, but better.

Some UU's are:

Vileplume (My personagl fav, I use him on my team. He is still UU, because of his very limited movepool-mostly Grass & Poison)
Blazekien (Quite simply, Infernape is an improved version)

NU: Neverused. These pokes, quite simply, sucks. Alright? They suck. I cant break it down further than that.

Delibird (Poor movepool, pathetic stats, and what the hell is the point of Present?)


Of course, UU can indeed stand a chance. I mentioned I use Vileplume. Despite his poor movepool, he has great stats. Hidden Power gives him some diversability, he has a WIDE array of crippling moves, & he is one of the FEW pokemon able to pull off Sunnybeamer. His typing opens him up to many weaknesses, but it opens up to many resistances, most are in the OU game.

Its all about how you use them.
 
I've Swept a Team Consisting of Smeargle, Muk, Jynx, Ninjask, Blaziken, and Kyogre, all with standard sets, with a DUNSPARCE.

If timed right, Dunsparce can rock! Getting STAB on 2 moves that can be used for Paraflinch(Headbutt and Body Slam), which work 60% of the time because of Serene Grace. Also, Ancientpower is an option if you're feeling lucky. It has MANY other options, that include, but are not limited to, Water Pulse, Thunder, Bite, Thunder Wave, Charge Beam, Endeavor, Shadow Ball, and much more.
 
lol Kyogre

It is possible, really possible actually, I've been using my favorite UU a lot (Cacturne), and it has helped me quite a bit because Sand teams really fear my Cacturne
 
i'm sure i'm late on answering the question, but of course UU/BL can ^.^

the day my chimecho walled a bronzong and hippowdown was one of my best XD
 
hey?

Is hitmonchan an OU pkmn? Im planning to use one agaisnt skarmbliss...
 
Hitmonchan used to be UU/NU in 3rd gen, but ever since the elemental punches became Physical, and now that his new trait gives him more damage for his punches, he's probably been promoted to at least BL. There are a lot of possibilities for Hitmonchan in 4th gen.
 
Well, of course UU/BL can take on OU! Two core members of my team are BL: Claydol and Spiritomb. And the likes of Weavile and company have no business trying to take on Spiritomb, while someone like Dragon Dance Salamence has no right staying in against Claydol (and Claydol ever survives a Draco Meteor from SpecsMence with a few Special Defense EVs, same with Spiritomb... and being able to survive Draco Meteor from him is something to brag about!)

So while I'm not sure a fully UU team can defeat a fully OU team without a bit of trouble, certain UU/BL Pokemon are actually fantastic counters to some OU.

And yet others are meant purely for the UU environment. I've always loved Kangaskhan, and that thing packs a nice punch. But I usually wouldn't use him in OU battling.
 
I definitely agree with Mr. Steel on this one. Sims practically used an UU team against me, and I use like 3OU pokemon and 3 borderline pokemon I think. Anyway Sims with his army of UU pokemon barring one nearly wiped me out. I just got real lucky at the end and made a comeback...
 
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