Cat vs. Dog

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honey-senpai said it rite
entei= dog defidently
raikou= kitycat
suicune= mom was cat dad was a dog
 
:laugh: Half cat half dog. That may be right. Suicune's my favorite out of these three though.
 
Suicune is my favorite too.

Ha ha, nearly everyone has a different thought about them! Hybrid cat-dogs? OK. XD
CatDog was a good show btw.
 
I could've sworn they were the 3 legendary "Beasts".

First Gen was birds of course, 3rd gen were Golems, and the fourth gen trio were spirits.

So, since the first three generations were based off Japanese folklore- what were Entei, Suicune & Raikou's original base from their Japanese folklore story?
 
Okay..one more time:

Entei: Though it may have a dog-like build, take a look at it's nose. No snout like a dog would have.(Except maybe a pug but I'm taking all dogs into account). It's paw's are another dog like feature, but could also be that of a cats though larger.
Claimed: Feline

Raikou: Do I NEED to explain this again? Apart from fangs,(which cat's have sharper one's then dogs, though dog's still have power to easily bite through skin), it also has a cat like face and build. I even think it walks like a cat, plus it has large eyesockets and its leg scructure.
Claimed: Feline

Suicune: The most confusing to take into account as a feline, its snout is a dog like structure, though it also has set in eyes that are sharp like a cat's more then dogs. Another note is again it's build, lithe and swift. Another observation could be its rather large ribcage, undoubtably suitable for swift movement; hence cheetahs, leopards, panthers, etc.
Claimed: Feline

Also, which species have more long haired breeds? Cats.

Anything else?
 
Their hind legs all look feline. No dog I've ever sen has hind legs like those. Those legs are built for jumping, and all felines are known to jump high, while dogs are known for running. Cheetahs are the fastest animal in the world and that's why they have more of "canine"-like hind legs.

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Entei still looks like a very hairy lion to m. Their paws are very huge and round, and the muzzle are very blunt and broad.
 
You know....
Maybe they're just 6 foot tall, four legged monsters that can be held within a 2 inch, sphere container?

I mean really though- Have you ever tried to figure out what the hell Snorlax is?
The closest thing I'd guess would be either a bear.....or a Snorlax. >_>
Same goes for Lickitung and Swampert.
 
Yes they do indeed look more feline than Dogs as most westerners consider dogs. However, back in the day, there were dogs like the pug, and such. Which had larger cousins. They were nicknamed Fuu-Dogs. The dogs you more commonly see guarding shrines, and possibly your local Chinese and or Japanese restaurant. They lost popularity in Japan when the one Samurai Lord, got saved by a cat.

The three legendary dogs, are made to look more like Fuu-Dogs than say a Husky, Labradore, or Golden Retriever. Suicune does have the snout, but Entei in particular is VERY Fuu-Dog-esque.

I have studied abit too much into Japanese history, legend, and such.
 
vizforte said:
Yes they do indeed look more feline than Dogs as most westerners consider dogs. However, back in the day, there were dogs like the pug, and such. Which had larger cousins. They were nicknamed Fuu-Dogs. The dogs you more commonly see guarding shrines, and possibly your local Chinese and or Japanese restaurant. They lost popularity in Japan when the one Samurai Lord, got saved by a cat.

The three legendary dogs, are made to look more like Fuu-Dogs than say a Husky, Labradore, or Golden Retriever. Suicune does have the snout, but Entei in particular is VERY Fuu-Dog-esque.

I have studied abit too much into Japanese history, legend, and such.
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I'm guessing that's an extent breed of dog, right? Or you could be talking about a Sher Pei. Wrinkly dog, lol.

They still don't stand like a dog, though.
 
One thing I must note about each of them

Raikou-Looks tigerish, but its claws are almost bearish, and are not retractable. But every other thing points it too being a cat.
Entei-Has got dog feet, build, and a flat cat face. Has no tail, a more doglike aspect in some breeds. Well, not really, but there arent any tailless cats.
Suicune-Water-Type, cats hate water. Except tigers. And it has dog feet. Id say more doggish.
 
The_Chatot_Pirate said:
One thing I must note about each of them

Raikou-Looks tigerish, but its claws are almost bearish, and are not retractable. But every other thing points it too being a cat.
Entei-Has got dog feet, build, and a flat cat face. Has no tail, a more doglike aspect in some breeds. Well, not really, but there arent any tailless cats.
Suicune-Water-Type, cats hate water. Except tigers. And it has dog feet. Id say more doggish.
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You didn't bother reading the thread did you? And you're wrong about there not being any tailless cats. They're called bobtails, and the Japanese loves their bobtail cats. Plus you'd be wrong on Entei's paws, as I stated before, lions have very large, very round paws. Look for yourself:

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Even their Bulbapedia page says they resemble cats.
 
Me2UJus4Free said:
You didn't bother reading the thread did you? And you're wrong about there not being any tailless cats. They're called bobtails, and the Japanese loves their bobtail cats. Plus you'd be wrong on Entei's paws, as I stated before, lions have very large, very round paws. Look for yourself:

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Even their Bulbapedia page says they resemble cats.
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I did, where did it say that? And I didnt mean for size, I meant no was on they're being claws, they almost look like neither cat nor dog paws, something without claws intirely, which is probably unexistent.
 
Me2UJus4Free said:
I'm guessing that's an extent breed of dog, right? Or you could be talking about a Sher Pei. Wrinkly dog, lol.

They still don't stand like a dog, though.
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Well, back back in the day. Were talking warring states era in China time. The popular kind of dogs were ancestors of Lhasa apso, Pugs, precessor of the Bull dog, as they were popular in China and Japan. These dogs had short noses, and little to no dog like tails as Westerners know.

So the common dog design westerners are more akin to, are not the ones that the easterners are.

The stances of the dogs, are supposed to promote dignity, power and respect. Lil else, beyond that.
 
I don't get why people call them dogs. Entei and Raikou are clearly cat. Big cats, but still... Also, Suicune kind of looks like some weird cross between a cat and a wolf...
 
I think Vizforte makes some good points.

Anyway, I personally am settled.
Raikou, feline. That's pretty clear.
Entei, feline. Lionlike. The paws, head, everything points that way.
Suicune, canine. Head, body, legs, paws, etc. all say dog to me.
 
vizforte said:
Well, back back in the day. Were talking warring states era in China time. The popular kind of dogs were ancestors of Lhasa apso, Pugs, precessor of the Bull dog, as they were popular in China and Japan. These dogs had short noses, and little to no dog like tails as Westerners know.

So the common dog design westerners are more akin to, are not the ones that the easterners are.

The stances of the dogs, are supposed to promote dignity, power and respect. Lil else, beyond that.
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I know I said something...

Ah well. There is only one thing left to do:

Send mail to the Pokemon Company to ask cat or dog an why. We have all argued good points or so I say.
 
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The_Chatot_Pirate said:
I did, where did it say that? And I didnt mean for size, I meant no was on they're being claws, they almost look like neither cat nor dog paws, something without claws intirely, which is probably unexistent.
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Of course the character designer didn't draw claws. It's too time consuming, and would you really want to see a Pokemon with large claws? It would scare little kids.

vizforte said:
Well, back back in the day. Were talking warring states era in China time. The popular kind of dogs were ancestors of Lhasa apso, Pugs, precessor of the Bull dog, as they were popular in China and Japan. These dogs had short noses, and little to no dog like tails as Westerners know.

So the common dog design westerners are more akin to, are not the ones that the easterners are.
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I see, so when Western dogs were still resembling wolfs, Chinese dogs were already looks nothing like wolfs. Interesting.

The stances of the dogs, are supposed to promote dignity, power and respect. Lil else, beyond that.
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Much like a lion, but Entei's promotional drawing was the only one who had that strong, proud, erect stance. Put a rock under him and he'll look like a very furry Mufasa.
 
/sigh...

Most of you all are hopeless on this topic. hahaha. I would explain further, but the static from my previous posts, obviously yer not getting it. So I won't elaborate.

They are very old pokemon... If Nintendo and Game freaks say they are Weepy crying babies, then thats what they are. ^^
 
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