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? Bleep ? said:
grass>ice on zapdos imo. screws swampert, and thunderbolt does enough to most dragons anyways o.O

I used Grass on Zappy, it killed Swapy, but anything with decent attak using EQ can hurt him, lol. Ice also kills other Zappys.:D
 
Mullet said:
I used Grass on Zappy, it killed Swapy, but anything with decent attak using EQ can hurt him, lol. Ice also kills other Zappys.:D

hidden power: 70(2)=140.
thunderbolt: 95(1.5)(2)(.5)=142.5

thunderbolt still does more to other zapdos.
 
torkoal_7 said:
Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Sexy Bird
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 52 Def / 156 Spd / 176 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

I would lead with milotic, cause you want this thing in good shape to be passed to

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** www.smogon.com
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Flamethrower
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb

no wisp tricked me bad =/ cause I had ddmence out against weezing twice and decided to swap out both times

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers ** Marvel Snake
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 236 Def / 4 Spd / 56 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

fine by me

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Facist Onion
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Recover

hopefully thats 301 speed

Claydol @ Leftovers ** Sup
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 96 Atk / 176 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

I'd use explosion over rest

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers ** BOAH BOAH BOAH
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 44 HP / 240 Atk / 176 Spd / 48 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Taunt

water types stop this as well, since you are CM passing I'd actually use boah since his main counters are:

water types: who will do less damage to him and the extra from t-bolt when he is cm passed.

LS Zapdos: Light screen will be negated and zapdos's attacking ability will be compromised.

ST heracross: Same thing pretty much if you hit him for 50%+ with t-bolt he's not going to stop you

k, so r8/h8/etc.


yea so seriously consider boah
 
? Bleep ? said:
grass>ice on zapdos imo. screws swampert, and thunderbolt does enough to most dragons anyways o.O
hp ice on zapdos is there to kill opponent celebis, that otherwise would wall it, rather than there for killing dragons... :\
after a few cms, swampert's ice beam won't do **** to it anyway.


@Husk:

k, I'll lead with milotic then.
I originally had boah over ddtar on this team, but it just didn't work that well in the current metagame. =/ Might try to use it again, though.
 
@ HP Ice on Zappy; serves as a pseudo-boltbeam, which for all the reasons mentioned above are valid. If he weren't passing, then grass might be cooler, but Celebi pretty much handles Swampy anyway.
 
Apparently I'm the only one that sees HP Bug on Swampert a lot >.>
 
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