Changed up the Team AGAIN

[zenrot]

Empoleon (male) @ Leftovers
Torrent
Quiet
EVs:252 Defense, 252 Special Defense, 4 HP
Ice Beam
Surf
Stealth Rock
Roar

Flygon (female) @ Chioce Scarf/Band
Levitate
Jolly
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge
Crunch
Earthquake

Dusknoir (female) @ Leftovers
Pressure
Sassy
EV's: 252 HP, 132 Defense, 120 Special Defense
Shadow Sneak
Will-o-Wisp
Thunder Punch
Pain Split

Zangoose (Female) @ Muscle Band
Immunity
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Close Combat
Return
Night Slash
X-Scissor

Raichu (male) @ Wide Lens
Static
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunder
Focus Blast
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot

Scyther (male) @ Focus Band
Technician
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Pursuit
X-Scissor

 

[El Gofre]

Empoleon (male) @ Leftovers
Torrent
Quiet
EVs:252 Defense, 252 Special Defense, 4 HP
Ice Beam
Surf
Stealth Rock
Roar
No expert on this, ill leave it alone

Flygon (female) @ Chioce Scarf/Band
Levitate
Jolly
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge
Crunch
Earthquake
Fine

Dusknoir (female) @ Leftovers
Pressure
Sassy
EV's: 252 HP, 80Def, 176 Special Defense
Shadow Sneak
Will-o-Wisp
Thunder Punch
Pain Split
Will-o-wisp halves an opponent attack stat, you can shove more intp SpDef which it can struggle with.

Zangoose (Female) @ Muscle Band
Immunity
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Close Combat
Return
Night Slash
X-Scissor
What kinda boost does Muscle band offer? If its something like 10% you're better off with life orb and putting up with recoil. Good set otherwise.

Raichu (male) @ Wide Lens/Focus Sash
Static
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunder/Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Grass Knot
Nasty Plot
Fair enough. Bear in mind that you arent gonna be surviving much off those defences, so NP is gonna need some prediction.

Scyther (male) @ Focus Band
Technician
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Pursuit
X-Scissor
Nice, i haven't seen regular scyther in a while

Overall a good team, but im worried about the defensive side of things. 2 dual-walls is tempting (I used to use 3 lol) but ive discovered that two dedicated walls work better. Still, live and learn. If it works for you, keep it. You could do with a spinner too, seeing as scyther and raichu both take 25% off stealth rock.

 

[zenrot]

I was actually thinking about replacing raichu with a Boltbeam starmie. If someone could reccomend natures, stats, sets and such for that it would be amazing.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I was actually thinking about replacing raichu with a Boltbeam starmie. If someone could reccomend natures, stats, sets and such for that it would be amazing.

Starmie@Leftovers
172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
Trait : natural Cure
- Rapid Spin
- Thunderbolt /ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Is standard, if you dont want it to spin just put ice beam >> Rapid spin, you need a spinner though. So choose between Ice Beam for dragons etc and T-Bolt for Gyarados etc.

Evs give it 352 speed, enough to outspeed max speed timid Gengar and max speed infernape.


As for Empoleon 252 hp / 252 sp.def / 6 sp.att on evs @Calm Nature.


EDIT : Also no reliable physical wall = fail, so get on NOAW !!! lol

 

[zenrot]

first, you mean 252 ev's right? and second can you reccomend a physical wall other than skarm?

 

[El Gofre]

I was gonna recommend forretress until i saw you'd sorted a spiner lol
Possible physical walls:
*Steelix
*Swampert
*Cloyser
*Weezing
*Hippowdon

Theres a few :)

 

[zenrot]

aww man... i dont like any of those hahaha. I'll think of something.

 

[El Gofre]

Lol im insulted :P
There's plenty more out there, use the big cow if you're after cute and cuddly :D

 

[zenrot]

no, not cute and cuddly, but just a pokemon that appeals to me. and i apologize if i offended you.

 

[El Gofre]

No i was jokin dude :)
I just randomly thought of miltank, and decided to call it cute and cuddly :P

 

[Dark Azelf]

first, you mean 252 ev's right? and second can you reccomend a physical wall other than skarm?

Well, Hippowdon, Forretress, Cresselia , Bronzong, Tangrowth etc, check serebii for more.


252 evs on what btw ?, i didnt understand what you meant by that.

 

[zenrot]

haha, yeah i knew you were joking and was just putting up a response. and yeah, i cant think of anyone good but ill find someone.... maybe take out starmie for forteress.

 

[Ambient]

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Overall a good team, but im worried about the defensive side of things. 2 dual-walls is tempting (I used to use 3 lol) but ive discovered that two dedicated walls work better. Still, live and learn. If it works for you, keep it. You could do with a spinner too, seeing as scyther and raichu both take 25% off stealth rock.

Actually, Scyther takes 50% damage from SR, as Bug is also weak to Rock.

This team really does need both a Physical Wall and a Spinner (as all teams do).

 

[Anti]

Actually Raichu only takes 12.5%, but Scyther takes 50%.

Seriously running a Scyther with no rapid spinner is not smart. Donphan or Forretress turn into your best bets for walling since you need a spinner. Starmie works too but you must be careful of Weavile.

 

[zenrot]

im thinking about removing: Raichu, Scyther, Zangoose

and replacing them with: Forteress, salamence/gengar, weavile.

any thoughts?