Critical Impact on Pokemon

[Scarlet Weather]

Maddy... um...

Don't go making claims about the Bible that you can't prove. I, for one, think you and your friend are the ones being conned here. But that's another story.

Actually, I know of at least one Pokemon fan who thinks that Jinx was quite possibly based on "blackface", a style of performance in which white actors or singers would smear their faces and hands with black shoe polish. It was pretty racist. There's no actual proof that Jinx is based on Ganguro by the way, and many of the other theories surrounding it have little or no credibility. It also doesn't entirely explain why Nintendo changed Jinx's skin instead of simply stating it was based off of Ganguro fashions. That doesn't mean the series itself is racist, it simply means that it had a racist caricature and it got rid of it. That should actually say a lot about how the series is positive. I seriously doubt that if Nintendo had intended to be racist with Pokemon that they still would have changed Jinx's skin.

Moving on, I don't have a problem with Pokemon and Arceus because Arceus isn't a real being. But enough of that. There isn't anything inherently wrong with playing Pokemon according to the Bible. (I'm serious here, there are quite a few verses in the Pauline epistles that outline Christian liberty. While the issue that he wrote to deal with was Christians eating food that had been sacrificed to idols after God made foods that had previously been ceremonially unclean A-OK, it can be applied to any controversy. The basic message? "You can do what you want, as long as it doesn't violate God's law or drive a wedge between you and your [spiritual] brother.")

Moving on from that, I'd like to point out that a lot of this controversy has blown over. People aren't complaining about it as much as they used to since Pokemon is no longer popular. Guess they won't rant unless they're getting their fifteen minutes of fame from it, eh?

 

[Skymin]

Maddy... um...

Don't go making claims about the Bible that you can't prove. I, for one, think you and your friend are the ones being conned here. But that's another story.

Oh, hi ACC. :3 Long time no see?

Isn't the Bible a list of stories from different men? I'm Christian, and I've read a kid's bible before. And the saying isn't really supposed to offensive, if it is. His wife was Christian, and he was kinda neutral... Ehh, I shouldn't've said it in the first place. I'll go edit it...

Moving on from that, I'd like to point out that a lot of this controversy has blown over. People aren't complaining about it as much as they used to since Pokemon is no longer popular. Guess they won't rant unless they're getting their fifteen minutes of fame from it, eh?

Mm. But everyone loves a rant and someone to listen to it. I wouldn't say it's no longer popular. I'd think more popular, but some might be trying to concentrate to finish the game, then to pick at the "flaws". Perhaps they only complain to earn a extra dollar or two. Unless, of course, it was serious. Such as the Polygon Episode.

 

[Scarlet Weather]

Isn't the Bible a list of stories from different men? I'm Christian, and I've read a kid's bible before. And the saying isn't really supposed to offensive, if it is. His wife was Christian, and he was kinda neutral... Ehh, I shouldn't've said it in the first place. I'll go edit it...

((That quote doesn't sound all that neutral to me...))

The Bible was written by many different people, yes, but they were all divinely inspired by God, so there's really only one Author when it comes down to it. I'd also like to point out that every single one of those men, despite the fact that some of them lived hundreds of years apart and even wrote in different languages from each other, always agreed on every single major issue the Bible deals with. That alone states that if it's a compilation, it's definitely a danged good 'un, such as there will never be again. Anyway, my point was that it grants certain liberties, and it doesn't contradict itself in granting them.

As to your comment on Pokemon's popularity, it has a lot of closet fans but it is no longer the huge craze it once was. For the most part, the fad is gone. All that's left are the people like us who actually liked the series for itself.

 

[spam]

Moving on from that, I'd like to point out that a lot of this controversy has blown over. People aren't complaining about it as much as they used to since Pokemon is no longer popular. Guess they won't rant unless they're getting their fifteen minutes of fame from it, eh?

That's exactly what I said earlier only worded differently.

We should just let this thread die because it's pretty useless complaining about something that happened 10 years ago.

 

[Deokishisu]

I'm a Roman Catholic, and every Catholic I know thinks Pokemon is A-OK. I honestly think that (and I'm not being racist or prejudice about other religions mind you) that alot of it is Catholic denominatons. My parish, and others in my area have no problem with Pokemon, so naturally, I think the majority of Catholics don't either. However, I've been to a couple of my friend's churches (who are members of Catholic denominations) and asked the leaders of those churches about this issue and they had many reasons why Pokemon was evil and how it goes against the scripture etc. etc. So basically, I really don't know why this is being thrown at the Catholics so much when, for the most part, we really don't care whether or not someone likes Pokemon nor do we think it's evil.

 

[Xairmo]

For crying out loud, they're video game monsters!! Why would anyone take any element of it seriously? These complaints are filed by oversensitive, overbearing prudes with nothing better to do with their time. Do these idiots actually believe that if their kid sees a small electric rat transform into a bigger electric rat, they'll abandon their religion? "Pokemon can evolve, Mommy, so so did humans!" Give me a break! They're just video games! Lay the frig off!! And as for Jynx, why is that even an issue? It's a monster who just happened to have black skin! It was based off of the Ganguro style, and just because it was a Japanese trend that Jynx was designed after, the idiotic Americans call it racist! They're the culturally insensitive ones for not realizing Jynx's actual origins. What, are they gonna file another lawsuit if they see a shiny Rayquaza? "A black dragon? Oh no they didn't!"

OMG!! that is by far the funniest thing i have ever read!! and u make a very good point as well

 

[airconditioning]

Since this topic is apparently undead...

Racisim:

Meh, someone's pulling the race card. It seems that everyone needs something to whine about. Or maybe just the ones who are published.

Religion

I remember back in second grade, a few of my friends got together to play Pokemon cards. Last thing I remember, we were using someone's cat for a ritualistic sacrifice in the name of Mewtwo, our One Lord and Savior. Freaky stuff.

Health

I actually saw that episode. It was friggin' epic. On a brighter note, that's 635 kids who aren't fielding legendaries in Battle Rev.

 

[J-Rad]

Since this topic is apparently undead...



Meh, someone's pulling the race card. It seems that everyone needs something to whine about. Or maybe just the ones who are published.



I remember back in second grade, a few of my friends got together to play Pokemon cards. Last thing I remember, we were using someone's cat for a ritualistic sacrifice in the name of Mewtwo, our One Lord and Savior. Freaky stuff.



I actually saw that episode. It was friggin' epic. On a brighter note, that's 635 kids who aren't fielding legendaries in Battle Rev.

ur religion thingy scars me, yeah i saw the poorygon1 too got real dizzy at the missle part an dimmediatly turned it off...:(

 

[Bishopk]

I remember back in second grade, a few of my friends got together to play Pokemon cards. Last thing I remember, we were using someone's cat for a ritualistic sacrifice in the name of Mewtwo, our One Lord and Savior. Freaky stuff.

You too?
Wait... no... we were sacrificing to Pinsir.
Never mind.

 

[Anti]

This thread is still alive? Wow. Anyways, my obnly real problem is that these catholics (I'm one of them) are so hypocritical it isn't even funny. I mean, I know catholics who are all studying the bible, and the next thing you know they are starting false rumors, being bad people overall, and just going against the bible...so why should we listen to the people who are like that rant about stuff they do? Exactly...did that make sense? I mean, there are catholics who are wonderfuyl people, but some are just...so they have no case againat pokemon...had to rant a bit there, cause I have no life.

 

[MyNameMeansForest]

I feel like saying a bunch of not so nice words I won't post here.

1. The racism thing. Yes, racism is bad and I hate racists. Still, I didn't make the connection between black people and Jynx until I read it on the Internet somewhere else. Chill, people, chill. You probably won't notice it unless you're really looking something to criticize or someone tells you. One of my friends is black. He likes Pokemon. Has nothing against Jynz. (His pokemon are nowhere powerful or rare as mine though, ha ha.)

2. I'm Christian, and I don't feel offended. A lot people at my church don't feel offended. It's a video game. Not real life. Even my pastor isn't offended. Only the Christians who belive everything is bad (movies, TV, video games, etc.) think that. Chill, people.

3. I think this is one is pretty good. Seizures are bad. However, when is TV good for your health at all? Or hamburgers or fries or the computer or whatever? And they actually removed that episode in other countries, even though they could've painted over it.

Just chill. Some people take things too seriously.

 

[Anti]

I feel like saying a bunch of not so nice words I won't post here.

1. The racism thing. Yes, racism is bad and I hate racists. Still, I didn't make the connection between black people and Jynx until I read it on the Internet somewhere else. Chill, people, chill. You probably won't notice it unless you're really looking something to criticize or someone tells you. One of my friends is black. He likes Pokemon. Has nothing against Jynz. (His pokemon are nowhere powerful or rare as mine though, ha ha.)

2. I'm Christian, and I don't feel offended. A lot people at my church don't feel offended. It's a video game. Not real life. Even my pastor isn't offended. Only the Christians who belive everything is bad (movies, TV, video games, etc.) think that. Chill, people.

3. I think this is one is pretty good. Seizures are bad. However, when is TV good for your health at all? Or hamburgers or fries or the computer or whatever? And they actually removed that episode in other countries, even though they could've painted over it.

Just chill. Some people take things too seriously.

You pretty much summed it up. At least no one really cares anymore since ipods are more popular than pokemon.

 

[Xairmo]

um...for people to get so upset over a game just blows my mind. there a re so much more important things that people should be protesting but pokemon isnt one of them. there is no subliminal message behind pokemon that promotes racism or tells people to go against there faith and anyone who believes there is is just being silly. people today should be using there time to stop real racism, the kind u see everyday. and also world hunger and the war and iraq. to sit around complaining that pokemon is destroying ur kids is pointless and u should be spending ur time more productively