Does God exist?

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A thread of this subject has survived this long? Amazing... A moderator would do good to read though it, for I see an argument that does nothing but breed hate.

My religion — Shinto — makes me both polytheistic and animistic. However, with the question at hand most probably referring to the Christian God, my answer is no there.
 
Of couarse god is real how do u think water, air, earth is here? Also god is 3 differnt people he is Jesus, the holy spirt and someone else.
 
I said the exxact same thing. I've never heard of that religion before.

Their logic is still incomplete. As I said, their is in no way able to prove 100% that what they say is true.
 
I personnaly belevie in God im Christian and i go to church but im not gonna lie i have my doubts every once and a while like (does heaven exist) and (is the Bible just a book that has brainwashed us all) xD but I just have hope that God is real and so is heaven and im not really a big fan of evolution but im not going to judge someone on what they beleive in.
and if you tell me what i believe is wrong ill probably just ignore you or say what makes you think that what you beleive in is true??
 
Yeah. I like finding out new things. Well, the thread starter got banned. Is this thread done? A lot of intolerance wen't with him.
 
I'm cathloic, and I learned that God was three differnt people and god. Why? Cuz god can do whatever he/she wants.
 
Super Smash Kid said:
Of couarse god is real how do u think water, air, earth is here?
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How does this proove Yahweh? This could be proof for the existence of Zeus, Thor and so on.
Just because your society drilled a religion into your brain, doesn't make you totally correct. You happened to be brought up in a place where Catholicism was taught, it doesn't make you right. A Muslim or a Hindu would say otherwise because their doctrine tells them so.

Lets not turn this into a 'My God is Right & Your's Isnt' idealogy.
 
Yahweh is a new word.

Well, you are right to say no one is totally correct. We all believe in what we believe in. We all have that right. Taking it too far & forcing beliefs is unjust. However, they do make some dang good "72 virgins" jokes. I am old enough to make up my own mind, so I will vieww all options, but being a Christian does it good for me.
 
sims796 said:
Yahweh is a new word.

Well, you are right to say no one is totally correct. We all believe in what we believe in. We all have that right. Taking it too far & forcing beliefs is unjust. However, they do make some dang good "72 virgins" jokes. I am old enough to make up my own mind, so I will vieww all options, but being a Christian does it good for me.
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you took the words right out of my mouth or the typing out of my hands xD
but i totally agree with you
 
sims796 said:
Yeah. I like finding out new things. Well, the thread starter got banned. Is this thread done? A lot of intolerance wen't with him.
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This? Done? I wouldn't say so, there's still people who'd want to post here.

sims796 said:
Yahweh is a new word.

Well, you are right to say no one is totally correct. We all believe in what we believe in. We all have that right.
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Yahweh is the Jewish name for God, a very old word actually, I think.

Agreed. Also, if everyone stated religious things in the manner of opinion, rather than that of fact, the results of religious discussions would be far less profound... It's the simple-minded arrogance of the few that spark the crusades of the many.
*quotes self's own last sentence* I say some cool/interesting stuff sometimes... xD
 
sims796 said:
Yahweh is a new word.
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The word 'God' does not apply to the same God for everyone, considering there are other religions represented on this site, it would be fair to be more specific. The term 'God' is generally determined by your society or your upbringing. God in the US being the Judeo-Christian one, whereas God in India; Vishnu, the Middle East; Allah and so forth.
 
I believe in God, but the existence of God cannot be proven with Science, so there really shouldn't even be an argument whether he exists or not. It would end up being a battle between the Atheists and the believers, and those battles get nowhere.
 
Well, I had no idea what the exact word yahweh meant.

Don't worry, when I use the word "God" I mean it in my sense. I am aware of everyone's upbringings & beliefs.
 
Here's my theory on "God". So, you, rational person that you are, believe in evolution, right? This means everything came from SOMEthing. But, we weren't always here, were we? So, at some point, there was nothing, and then BOOM! an atom of carbon appeared. Nothing, being nothing and therefore doing nothing, didn't create this, so something non-physical must ave created this. Something that's smarter than humanity. I call this something God. Now, I'm going to assume that this something is infinately wise. This means, that it has seen every possible path that humanity could take, and knows how to create new ones. But, because this something knows everything, how long did it take for it to make sure humanity wouldn't screw itself? My answer is...less time that we have a unit for. So, at this point in my reasoning, God no longer exists. More troubling is the fact that, maybe, just maybe, God doesn't know everything after all. You see, because god knows everything, God has never had the concept of not knowing something. So, if God doesn't actually know EVERYthing, but thinks it does, we could be screwed, and with no God to help us.


No it gets tricky. God has never known a question. But, through knowing humanity perfectly, God knows what a question is, but has never felt one. This leaves God with the QUESTION, "what does a question feel like?" So, God now knows what it is to not know something, and therefore is left with the possibility that it doesn't know everything, and can't accurately plan for the future. So, God has to leave something in charge to make sure humanity doesn't kill itself. And, the only thing that God can leave behind, that it can trust completely to react to whatever humanity can throw at it, is God. hence, God exists.
 
Nightwing said:
[blah blah blah] .... hence, God exists.
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Honestly.. that's such a flawed argument...I didn't even want to quote the rest of it >_>

If something smarter than humanity existed, where did that come from? Did another God make that (and so on)? Or did he cleverly make himself from nothing as well.

Rationality is using evidence and reasonable logic to support an idea. There is more that sufficient evidence to show that evolution occurred bringing about the existence of modern life and that microorganisms may have been created by infusing organic materials.
I don't know where such chemicals arose from, however the chances are that eventually science will find out- rather than religion who thinks that they know the answer to everything with the ever so simple 'God did it'.

Your concept of God now being nonexistent is contradictory to his immense power and knowledge that he would have to cause existence of the world. "how long did it take for it to make sure humanity wouldn't screw itself" - why humanity? there are plenty of events that have happened outside your narrow minded view of the 21st centrury which where catastrophic (eg extinction of the dinosaurs which massively affected the progression of evolution). But then again, if you choose to be irrational and reject all the evidence of such events, then this arguments gone to waste.
So did he die before WW2? before the Spanish Inquisition? during the plague? Human history is written in blood, I would like for your reasoning to explain when God died (or how as well).
Your statement simply shows that your struggling to comprehend the aspects of evil in the world with the possibility of the existence of a higher being with the knowledge and power to be able to stop them and not doing so.

Your point just got plain silly after that; "God has never known a question."- I think that needs elaborating. Looking back, your entire idealogy is made up of your assumptions with poor reasoning behind them.
 
I really don't know. I used to believe in God until, say, 2-3 years ago. All those things that exist in the universe must be made by something. Even if the Big Bang really happened, what made that happen? But I don't know how can a God exist with all the war, starving people and other problems that exist in the Earth. This is my opinion.
 
Ah.... so nice to see a religious topic again T_T

The fact of the matter is, we can't know, can we?

Science has loads of proof on how our body works, The cell's role in organisms, etc.
Believers Has many reasons on how God gives you opertunites to be (Faster, smarter, kinder, etc.), How God made the earth, etc.

But...
When we die, we rather find out who side is right.
you could be heaven! (Or hell, burning in it for something you did)
or, you could be... in nothingness.

and hey, when you find out after death, people can't just ask you, "Hey, is there a God?" because, guess what? You're DEAD.

Anywho, to get to the point of this post,
Why argue about it when nobody knows for sure if thier is God?

I believe in god, but I don't get in debates whether he's real or not.

So, don't talk to me like "GoD 3XiStS , aNd YoUz KnOwZ iTz!!1" and "Da Th3rOy Of GoD iS a BuNcH oF bUlL!!1"
because I don't want to hear it >:|
 
God does not have a cause since he does not have a beginning or an end. God is eternal, so God does not have any need of having been created. Being eternal, that means he can exist in multiple dimensions of time, or in a plane of time; that is, he can exist in an infinite number of events at the same instant. So it is possible for God to be everywhere =P

As it happens, I don't believe in any religion. But that most certainly doesn't mean I'm adamant that God does not exist. I accept that even though it's unlikely, there in fact could be a God. I just don't get involved with religion. By definition, no theory can ever be known to be 100% correct until you prove that every contradictory theory is wrong. There are logical arguments for both theories and I can think of at least one possible cause of the universe for both; but there is so far no logical argument to entirely prove that one or the other is wrong. Therefore it would be wrong to insist that what you believe is what is correct. We are free to believe what we want to believe and we should accept and respect others' beliefs.
 
You would think if God did truely exist, He/She wouldn't let us continually have this damn argument for the millionth time. Seriously, this topic has been around for centuries! If God does exist, why not show himsel/herself to end this argument once and for all? I mean people have been killed over this topics, wars have been started over this topic! Is that the purpose of God? You know, Id really like to believe God exists just so I could have some hope in this world, but I have no idea which religion is right! The fact of the matter is, arguing this is pointless. The only things that can be brought up are opinions and theories. Never have I seen any physical evidence of God. But who knows, God could be out there while we await his/her return...but then again God may not even be out there.
 
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