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Dragonite and Gengar

county1883

dragon master
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    Need you too rate these and help me with movesets and ev/iv's please
    Need to replace surf on dragonite

    Dragonite lvl 100 @ Adamant Orb Inner Focus
    Gentle Nature
    316 attack
    204 defence
    258 sp atk
    272 sp def
    176 speed
    Surf
    Blizzard
    Hyper Beam
    Dragon Pulse

    Thinking of replacing blizzard with DD



    Gengar lvl 73 @ Spell Tag Levitate
    Modest nature
    126 Attack
    121 defense
    240 Sp Atk
    126 Sp Def
    210 Speed
    Dark Pulse
    Sludge Bomb
    Thunderbolt
    Shadow Ball

    Dont think this moveset needs changing as it has a good type coverage
     
    After looking at those movesets, I can only say one thing. If I wake up blind tomorrow, DO NOT be surprised.

    First of all, why is Dragonite carrying an Adamant Orb? That gives no benefit to Dragonite whatsoever. And Blizzard on Dragonite? WTF? It has 70 Accuracy! That is a big fat NO... well technically, this is a big fat no - NO. <.<;

    And Hyperbeam!? Hyperbeam is one of the WORST moves ever. It traps the user on the field and only does 75 damage a turn. Don't Use, please.

    You can start by posting EVs instead of your Pokemon Stats. Its less confusing.

    And one more thing : fuhgohwogheuwhoghoewhoghwo!!!

    Items like Spell Tag and Mystic Water are NEVER to be used! They only provide a 10% boost.

    Now for the pokemon:

    Gengar@Life Orb / Wide Lens
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    Evs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    - Shadowball
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hypnosis
    - Focus Blast

    Dragonite@Leftovers
    Trait: Inner Focus
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Attack / 228 SDefense / 28 Speed
    - Dragon Claw
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderpunch
     
    Easy former Pal of Penguin with 6, you could cause something bad to happen =O

    Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Lens/Choice Specs/Choice Scarf/Life Orb/Wise Glasses
    Trait : Levitate
    Nature : Timid
    EV's : 4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
    Moves :
    - Focus Blast
    - Thunderbolt / Thunder
    - Shadow Ball / HP Ice
    - Hypnosis / HP Ice / Shadow Ball

    Only if someone else can use Hypnosis on your team.
     
    On a serious note, I would re breed the pokermon so they can be perfected.
     
    Azonic said:
    After looking at those movesets, I can only say one thing. If I wake up blind tomorrow, DO NOT be surprised.

    First of all, why is Dragonite carrying an Adamant Orb? That gives no benefit to Dragonite whatsoever. And Blizzard on Dragonite? WTF? It has 70 Accuracy! That is a big fat NO... well technically, this is a big fat no - NO. <.<;

    And Hyperbeam!? Hyperbeam is one of the WORST moves ever. It traps the user on the field and only does 75 damage a turn. Don't Use, please.

    You can start by posting EVs instead of your Pokemon Stats. Its less confusing.

    And one more thing : fuhgohwogheuwhoghoewhoghwo!!!

    Items like Spell Tag and Mystic Water are NEVER to be used! They only provide a 10% boost.

    Now for the pokemon:

    Gengar@Life Orb / Wide Lens
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    Evs: 252 SAttack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    - Shadowball
    - Thunderbolt
    - Hypnosis
    - Focus Blast

    Dragonite@Leftovers
    Trait: Inner Focus
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Attack / 228 SDefense / 28 Speed
    - Dragon Claw
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderpunch
    Click to expand...

    i knew they were bad thats why i posted them here no need to have a rant
    thanks for the advice how do you check evs
     
    Lead Gengar

    Gengar@Focus Sash
    Timid
    4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
    - Focus Blast
    - Thunderbolt
    - HP Ice
    - Hypnosis / Shadow Ball

    OR


    Your common Gengar build

    Gengar@ Wide Lens/Choice Specs/Life Orb/Wise Glasses
    Timid
    4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
    - Focus Blast / Energy Ball
    - Thunderbolt
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hypnosis / HP Ice

    If you like your Focus Blast + Hypnosis support always equip Gengar with Wide Lens


    And will Dragonite be a mixed / physical sweeper?
     
    Bleach and Sunshine said:
    On a serious note, I would re breed the pokermon so they can be perfected.
    Click to expand...

    I will breed them again just want to keep them for now
    Thanks

    Lumine said:
    Lead Gengar

    Gengar@Focus Sash
    Timid
    4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
    - Focus Blast
    - Thunderbolt
    - HP Ice
    - Hypnosis / Shadow Ball

    OR


    Your common Gengar build

    Gengar@ Wide Lens/Choice Specs/Life Orb/Wise Glasses
    Timid
    4 HP / 252 SAK / 252 SPD
    - Focus Blast / Energy Ball
    - Thunderbolt
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hypnosis / HP Ice

    If you like your Focus Blast + Hypnosis support always equip Gengar with Wide Lens


    And will Dragonite be a mixed / physical sweeper?
    Click to expand...

    Thanks
    and the Dragonite will probs be a mixed sweeper
     
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    Midnight Winged said:
    There are MUCH better mixed sweepers than Dragonite, Infernape, Lucario. DDnite should just be physical.
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    Lolzor, those guys are pretty decent alright, Infernape and Lucario are my fav mixed sweepers..
     
    No, Infernape is THE best Mixed Sweeper, it already has it's speed set up automatically, plus large coverage. Electivire is next to Inferanpe I would say
     
    DDnite is best physical...I've ran about every randition possible of dragonite since the days of red and blue (those sucked though, *sob*)

    Dragonite @ Yache Berry / Life Orb
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Outrage / Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Punch

    Has worked best for me...
     
    Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
    DDnite is best physical...I've ran about every randition possible of dragonite since the days of red and blue (those sucked though, *sob*)

    Dragonite @ Yache Berry / Life Orb
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Outrage / Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Punch

    Has worked best for me...
    Click to expand...

    Outrage fails . . . explained in another thread.

    Dragon Claw > Outrage
     
    Azonic said:
    Outrage fails . . . explained in another thread.

    Dragon Claw > Outrage
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    lol no. You might wanna see my response to that other thread. You scout for skarm and physical wallers (most effective with a magnezone on your team) and then wipe the floor. you obviously haven't seen outrgae in the hands of somebody who can use it :0
     
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