EV Training Guide

[MKDS_PoKE]

EV Training
A guide created for the sake of others on the topic of EV Training. Please feel free to ask me any questions as you please.

Navigation:
1.0; Introduction
1.1; What Exactly Is It?
1.2; The Advantages You Achieve In Battle
2.0; EV Training
2.1; The Basics
2.2; Harder Things
2.3; Faster EV Training, Deducting EV's
3.0; Misc. Things
3.1; Which Pokemon Give Out What EV's
3.2; Good EV Training Spots
3.3; VS Seeker Trainers
3.4; Frequently Asked Questions
4.0; Credits

1.0 Popular topic here. Everyone wants to learn about the interesting topic of EV training. Many people discuss this topic on forums. Most people do not know the work you have to go through to EV train. Most think it's hard, or it doesn't matter, though it does matter - alot. Some of the things that you understand is that you need to do hard work. EV training is a thing that you shouldn't get lazy at. Thusly, i've made a guide for all of you out their. I'm knowing most of you need it and for help as well.

1.1 EV Training is a way to enhance pokemon's stat. Each pokemon has 510 ev's to use. Every battle gives out some of those EV's. Each pokemon gives out a different EV. For example, Whismur gives out HP ev's, and Shinx gives out attack EV's. Training on those give out those EV's, and etc. In this guide i'll explain more. The range of EVs is from 1 to 255.

1.2 Advantages you achieve in battle are many. Firstly, you get a boost in the stats you want your pokemon to have. For example, Garchomp is supposed to have EV's in attack and speed. So, from training on shinx gives you a attack boost since shinx gives you attack ev's. Also, if you train on starly's (speed ev's) you get a speed boost. In the next section, I will explain ev training as descriptive as possible.

2.0 EV Training is used by competitive players and pro's at the meta-game. Seeing how most of you would like to find out how to actually do this it takes a long and hard time, but you'll eventually get used to it. Pokemon usually have standard sets already created with EV's available on websites, but you can be creative and make your in if you wish. Anyway, allow me to start.

2.1 The basics of EV training. That's right about it. Anyway, like I said, all you really do is battle pokemon that give out a certain EV. You also want to make sure that you keep track of your EVs just in case you need it in the future. So basically, here is an example of what you need to do. I'm hoping you will grasp the concept of the training. Please keep in mind that every 4 ev's results is equal to 1 stat point. Every pokemon can get 510 EV's in maximum total. Every stat has the max of 255 EV's, but if you max out EV's into a pokemon to 255, you waste 3 EV's. 252 EVs translates into 63 stat points, which is a big boost.

So you have a garchomp. Your wanting to EV training it in speed and attack in your Pokemon Diamond game. Now, Goldeen give out 1 attack EV, and zubat give out 1. So, you want your garchomp's EV set to be this:

6 HP EVs, 252 Attack EVs, 252 Speed Ev's.

Knowing that, your going to have to battle 252 goldeens, and zubats to retrieve the stats you want. You also want the 6 HP ev's. Defeat bidoof 6 times (bidoof give out 1 HP) and then your finished. "OMG I HAVE TO BATTLE 252?". That sentence shows laziness. Your going to have to pull off hard work to actually get very good. EV training takes time and patience.

Grasp the concept yet? If you do not, you can always ask me.

2.2 Their are also harder things you have to think about in EV training. It's not exactly easy as you have noticed. Some of the harder things people should focus on is breeding for a good IV'd pokemon. I know you may not like wasting your time EV training, but you don't want to ev train something that isn't good. Something you should do is make sure you have a pokemon with good IV's. You can achieve such a thing by catching the pokemon, or breeding it. That way when you EV train, it'll be worth it. I've yet created a IV guide, but I assure you, I will soon. You also are going to want a good natured pokemon as well. So, I mentioned garchomp as an example didn't I? The one that you want to EV train should look like this:

Garchomp
Nature: Jolly
Atk IV's: 31
Speed IV's: 31

Something like that is definitely what you want to EV train. Once you have bred such a gible, then your on your way to victory.

2.3 Your ticked off because of the fact on how long it takes to ev train correct? Well guess what, you can EV train faster with special items. Here are some items that you should keep in mind:

Items

Macho Brace: Doubles The EV's You Get, Lowers Speed (Ex: Starly Gives out 1 speed ev, with this on, you get 2 rather than 1)

Power Ankle: Boosts Speed EVs

Power Band: Boosts Special Defense Evs

Power Belt: Boosts Defense EVs

Power Bracer: Boosts Attack EVs

Power Lens: Boosts Special Attack EVs

Power Weight: Boosts HP EVs

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Judgement also listed the equation of the power items and how it works:

x + y = t

x = EV's from pokemon
y = EVs boosted from Power Items (+4)
t = Total EVs


Now with Pokerus we multiply the whole left side of the equation by 2 so...

2(x + y) = t

Now assume we have a pokemon that grants 2 points per battle...

2(2 + 4) = 12
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Pokerus
Pokerus is a special disease your pokemon can obtain by other pokemon that have it. It only lasts for a period of time though. It's kind of like a macho brace just without the speed drop. It doubles your EV's as the macho brace does. Say you have the macho brace AND pokerus. So you battle starly, which gives 1 speed EV. You get 2 speed ev's because of macho brace, and then 4 because of pokerus. Sounds cool huh?

Vitamins
1 vitamin gives a pokemon 10 EV's in the respective stats depending on which vitamin you use. Stops working when a certain stat has 100 EV's in it, or more. This allows you to get 100 EV's in the stats you want EV's in without actually EV training.

Exp. Share
Well, the pokemon wearing this gets exp. But also gains EV's. Let's say a Level 100 Aerodactyl is fighting starly, and a meowth in your party is holding the exp. share. When aerodactyl beats starly, not only does meowth gets experience, but gets speed ev's. Here is something that judgement said about the exp. share:

Not only does the wearer gain half the experience from a battle, but it ALSO gains EVs. So, for example, if someone battles a Pidgey for one EV of Speed, the both the Pokemon that battled and the wearer of EXP. Share gain 1 EV in Speed EACH. (If, say, a Pidgeotto battles and a Gastly is wearing the EXP. Share, then both Pidgeotto and Gastly each get 1 EV; the amount of EVs gained is not split in half.)

Reducing
Made a mistake while ev train? Wasted good EV's on the wrong stats? Well, their is a hope! The following berries reduce EV's. They each reduce EV's by 10. They can be found in Ruby, Saphire, Emerald, Diamond, and Pearl.

-Pomeg Berry - HP
-Kelpsy Berry - Attack
-Qualot Berry - Defense
-Hondew Berry - Special Attack
-Grepa Berry - Special Defense
-Tamato Berry - Speed

3.0 I also have a few things to say as well. A few things that some of you might like to know. Such as which pokemon give out what EV's, good EV training spots and such.

3.1 Their are many pokemon out their, and they give out EV's. Here is a list of which pokemon give out what EV's:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/45193

3.2 Their are various EV training spots. Here are the diamond and pearl wild pokemon spots:

HP:
-Shellos at Valley Windworks north of ignore the Buizel (+1 each)
-Gastrodons at Fuego Ironworks or Route 213 ignore Floatzel (+2 each)
-Gastrodons outside of Pal Park (+2 each)
-Gastrodons at Route 222 (+2 Each, and are common their)

Attack:
-Kricketune and Bidarel at route 212 (rainy route) (+2 each)
-Bibarels and Machop (2 EVs and 1 EV respectively) Route 208
-Machokes and Snovers at Acuity Lakefront (2 Evs and 1 EV respectively)

Defense:
-Cave with Geodudes and Hippopotas off route 214 (+1 each) (Ruin Maniac's Cave)
-Onix and Gravelers on Iron Island in the second room ignore Golbats (+1 Onix) (+2 Gravelers)
-Geodudes and Onix in the first room (Oreburgh Mines) (+1 each)

Special Attack:
-Gastly at the Old Chateau in Eterna Forest (+1 each) (Haunters +2) (Gengars +3)
-Golducks surfing in the water at the Resort Area (+2 each)

Special Defense:
-Surfing any ocean/sea area for Tentacools (+1each)

Speed:
-Raticates and Fearows Northwest of the Fight Area (+2 each) Route 225
-Zubats in a cave (+1 each)
-Golbats in Victory Road (in water, you only find Golbats) (+2 each)
-Sneasles in Acuity Lakefront (+1 Each)

3.3 Here is something interesting found on smogon in this thread: https://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=275248&postcount=1

Anyway, to the listing. The format is just this:

[Training for this stat]:
Location - Trainer - Final version of team (total EVs)

Most of the time there's only one of each trainer type per route, so it won't need clarification, but when it does, I have some little details in there to help you figure out who's who.


HP:
Route 209 - Cowgirl Shelley - L14, 15, 15, 15, and 16 Bidoof (5 HP)
Route 210 - Bird Keeper Brianna (lower level) - L38 and 42 Noctowl (4 HP)
Route 212 - Fisherman Travis (bottom) - L17, 17, and 18 Barboach, L20 Shellos (4 HP)
Route 213 - Tuber Jared (pacing) - L52, 53, and 51 Gastrodon (6 HP)
Route 219 – Tuber Mariel – L29 and 29 Marill (4 HP)*

*Not recommended because she's on a very small island with confined movement. But hey, at least the Route 201 music there is cool. Really has that "Route 1" nostalgia from the first time anyone battled a Pidgey in R/B.

*Turismo2029 notes that Brianna's Noctowl can hit level 60. See if it works for you.


Attack:
Route 203 - Lass Madeline (upper area) - L38 Staraptor, L38 Bibarel (5 Attack)
Route 213 - SwimmerM Sheltin - L30, 29, and 31 Gyarados (6 Attack)**
Route 214 - PI Carlos - L36 Goldeen, L37 and 38 Seaking (5 Attack)
Route 218 - Fisherman Miguel (bottom) - L53 and 53 Gyarados (4 Attack)*
Route 222 – Fisherman Alec (leftmost) – L53 and 53 Gyarados (4 Attack)*
Route 225 – Ace Trainer Quinn (standing still) – L53 Pinsir and L53 Mightyena (4 Attack)**

*The pro to training with Miguel over Alec is that he's also next to Fisherman Luc (4 Speed, 2 Attack), so you can train two stats at once. The con is that you only have 3-4 spaces to move to recharge the VS Seeker.
The pro to training with Alec over Miguel is that there's more room to move, and he's also within range of Rich Boy Trey, who has a L55 Luxio (2 Attack) and gives 8800 without Amulet Coin/Luck Incense. (Note: Firestorm88 says Trey hits L60 eventually and gives 9600.) I don't see any downside to Alec. Unless you're really interested in training Speed and Attack simultaneously, but Speed is the easiest stat to do.

**Getting to Quinn involves traveling through lots of grass and getting to Sheltin involves traveling over water, so I don't recommend it (even though there's a bit of land near where Sheltin is, you'd still have to be using Surf on and off to recharge).

***Ortega (on Smogon) says PI Carlos' Goldeen becomes a Seaking, meaning Carlos would give 6 Attack (not counting Macho Brave/Power items/Pokerus). And Twinks9999 and Juuka both say that Cyclist John on Cycling Road (third male from top) gets two Staraptor, which would also give 6 Attack. I can't get either of these evolutions to happen, so see what happens for you.


Defense:
Route 210 (tall grass area) - Ninja Boy Fabian (middle) - L23, 23, and 26 Geodude (3 Defense)
Route 212 (rain area) - Collector Dominique - L17, 18, and 19 Geodude (3 Defense)
Route 221 – Collector Ivan – L51, 52, and 53 Hippopotas (3 Defense)

Training Defense will be slightly annoying no matter which of these trainers you pick. Fabian's in tall grass, Ivan will have Sandstorm going every turn, and Dominique is in the rain--so you won't get hurt every turn, at least, but biking to recharge has a little slowdown. I tend to use Ivan.


Special Attack:
Route 212 (rain area) - PKMN Ranger Jeffrey (northwest end) - L21 and 21 Prinplup (4 Sp. Attack)
Route 212 (rain area) - Scientist Shaun (need Cut) - L53 and 53 Alakazam (6 Sp. Attack)
Route 214 - Psychic Mitchell (spinning, pacing) - L38 Haunter, L42 Kadabra (4 Sp. Attack)
Route 214 - Collector Douglas (south end of split paths) - L20, 22, and 24 Roselia (6 Sp. Attack)

Not much to say. Special Attack is very easy to train, and the Pokemon are weak against just the sorts of attacks that most special sweepers would use--Electric, Grass, Ghost, Psychic, Ice, Fire. Douglas is the best if you're using the Power Lens since he has a team of three, but the others are fine if you have no Power Lens, or if you're running a team with 5 Pickup users and want to fight fewer Pokemon before checking for Rare Candies, Dusk Stones, etc.


Special Defense:
Route 210 (foggy section) - Ninja Boy Davido (upper level) - L27 Dustox (3 Sp. Defense)
Route 230 – SwimmerF Sophia (bottom of pair with SwimmerM) – L50 Mantyke, L52 Mantine (3 Sp. Defense)*
Route 230 – SwimmerF Mallory (pacing, spinning, in the top "row" of rocks) – L50 Seel, L54 Dewgong (3 Sp. Defense)*

Surfing is obnoxiously slow and you'll need repels, but at least Sophia is next to a SwimmerM Sam with Chinchou and Lanturn (for 3 HP). Could be a semi-decent place to go, but I wouldn't. And don't even bother with Mallory, who's farther into the same route. I'm just recording her for the sake of it.


Speed:
Route 205 (water bridge section) - Fisherman Andrew (second from right) - L10, 10, 10, 10, 10, and 10 Magikarp (6 Speed)
Cycling Road - Cyclist John (third male from top) - L37 and 39 Staravia (4 Speed)

Easiest stat to train ever. In some ways, I might recommend training with Andrew for any stat with the help of the Power items (particularly for Defense and Special Defense) and just planting a lot of Tamato Berries to get rid of Speed gains when you don't need them. The experience sucks, of course, which is where John is a decent alternative (that and, again, Pickup abuse), but at least any Pokemon can fight Andrew without help from Exp. Share and such.

*Twinks9999 and Juuka note that John's Staravia evolve into Staraptor after a while, which would send them into the Attack section (6 Attack) and leave no Speed alternatives to Andrew. They're not doing it for me, so test to see what's the case on your game.


Mixed:
Route 204 (north of cave) - Bug Catcher Brandon - L53 Kricketune, L53 Beautifly (2 Attack, 3 Sp. Attack)
Route 208 - Artist Kevin - L37 Mr. Mime, L39 Sudowoodo (2 Defense, 2 Special Defense)
Route 208 - Hiker Alexander (need Rock Climb) - L35 Golbat, L35 Graveler, L35 Onix (2 Speed, 3 Defense)
Route 209 - PKMN Breeder Albert - L52 Sudowoodo, L53 Raichu, L51 Roselia (2 Defense, 3 Speed, 2 Sp. Attack)
Route 209 - PKMN Breeder Jennifer - L52 Mr. Mime, L53 Roselia, L51 Clefable (2 Sp. Defense, 2 Sp. Attack, 3 HP)
Route 210 (main area) - Rancher Marco - L36 Ambipom, L37 Golduck, L38 Girafarig (2 Speed, 4 Sp. Attack)
Route 210 (fog area) - Veteran Brian - L38 Buizel, L40 Girafarig, L39 Machoke (1 Speed, 2 Sp. Attack, 2 Attack)
Route 210 (fog area) - Double Team Zac and Jen (circling Ace Trainers) - L27 Gyarados, L27 Raichu (2 Attack, 3 Speed)
Route 210 (fog area) - Ninja Boy Joel (outside cliff area) - L23 and 23 Zubat, L25 Golbat, L25 Skorupi (4 Speed, 1 Defense)
Route 214 - Psychic Abigail (north end) - L37 Haunter, L38 Kadabra, L39 Misdreavus (4 Sp. Attack, 1 Sp. Defense)
Route 215 - Ace Trainer Dennis (bottom of pair with Ace TrainerF) - L39 Monferno, L39 Gyarados, L39 Luxio (1 Speed, 1 Sp. Attack, 4 Attack)
Route 218 - Fisherman Luc (top) - L26, 26, 26, and 26 Magikarp, L31 Gyarados (4 Speed, 2 Attack)
Route 221 – Ace Trainer Shannon (lower path) – L54 Cherrim, L54 Marill, L54 Lopunny (2 Sp. Att., 2 HP, 2 Speed)
Route 222 – Fisherman Cole (second from right) – L41 and 41 Gyarados, L38 Remoraid (4 Attack, 1 Sp. Attack)
Route 222 – Fisherman George (fourth from right) – L38 Magikarp, L42 Gyarados, L40 Remoraid, L40 Finneon (2 Spd., 2 Att., 1 Sp. Att).
Route 225 – Ace Trainer Rodolfo (pacing, spinning) – L53 Lickitung, L53 Miltank (2 HP, 2 Defense)
Route 226 – Dragon Tamer Stanley (top of pair with Bird Keeper) – L56 Seadra, L58 Gyarados (1 Def., 1 Sp. Att., 2 Att.)
Route 226 – SwimmerF Lydia – L52 Bibarel, L52 Sealeo, L52 Azumarill (2 Attack, 3 HP)
Route 227 – Ace Trainer Mikayla – L56 Meowth, L56 Hypno, L56 Persian (3 Speed, 2 Sp. Defense)
Route 227 – Black Belt Griffin – L57 Cacturne, L57 Machamp (4 Attack, 1 Sp. Attack)
Route 228 – Ace Trainer Ariana (near north end) – L54 Ambipom, L54 Chansey, L54 Rapidash (4 Speed, 2 HP)
Route 228 – Ace Trainer Jose (near north end) – L55 Golduck, L55 Sandslash (2 Sp. Attack, 2 Defense)
Route 229 (left side) – Ace Trainer Felix (left of pair with Ace TrainerF) – L55 Dusclops, L55 Salamence (1 Def., 1 Sp. Def, 3 Attack)

And there we have it.

3.4 I've compiled a list of FAQ's, or Frequently Asked Questions and answered them. I will also add to this when possible.

Do You EV Train Your Pokemon?
Yes, I do, and so do many other people

How do you breed?
This is the answer to your question

How long does it usually take you to EV train?
That depends if my pokemon has pokerus. When it does, maybe like 20 minuets, or 30. Without pokerus, then it takes a while, like 1 hour to me. But then again, that's just me. I have exactly heard it from other people's prospectives

I shall add more when possible. Please feel free you ask your questions in thsi thread as well.

4.0 This concludes my EV training guide. Credits go to:

MKDS_PoKE: For making the guide
Judgement0 (or just judgement): For a little help from his All About EV Training thread
Gamefaqs: For helping me out with which pokemon give out what EV's

Can't remember all of it.

 

[Angelic Diablo]

Two problems I see (I didn't read all of it)

One we already have a guide on this site

and two

Now with Pokerus we multiply the whole left side of the equation by 2 so...

2(x + y) = t

This equation is wrong... it's x + y x 2... therefore it would be 10 EVs and not 12

 

[MKDS_PoKE]

Two problems I see (I didn't read all of it)

One we already have a guide on this site

and two

This equation is wrong... it's x + y x 2... therefore it would be 10 EVs and not 12

No... the equation is correct.