Experimenting.

[Raziel_X007223]

These are a few Pokemon I've decided to try out. I don't know how to distribute their EVs yet, except for the usual 252/252/6 spreads. Anywho, here they are.


Kabutops @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
Adamant Nature Not Bad, Consider though Eving in Speed to make up for the slowness.
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
- Rain Dance Gone Period.. Stone Edge here and nothing else.
- Waterfall
- X-Scissor Ok, I guess, Still, I can't help wondering if Night Slash would be better....(against grass-types, most obviously.)
- Earthquake NG... No Good. Can't learn.. Might be a good time to either add Night Slash or Another High Crit move here....(against electrics who may take advantage of Rain Dance)


Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
- Spore
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb
- Stone Edge *angels sing in background*

No recommendations here.. Good Move set in my book, again, the others might have something to say, so go with them in conjuction with mine,....


Vespiquen @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Brave Nature Wrong... Impish here exclusively...
- Attack Order Defense Order.... Nuff said
- Heal Order
- Sludge Bomb The better chioce is Toxic, but if you're looking to do justice here, then I'll giev you credit for Sludge Bomb.. Good Move, Just not with her...
- Power Gem

Needs work. Please help?

Everything will be in Red and Bold..

To boot, I'm not here to flame or to discriminate, I'm an analyist and I enjoy helping people...

As for this Arguement on HAX... No Comment.


After looking at these three, Not bad. There is some room to improve, but overall... Good choices... Thanks for the privilege to comment for this post... HH

Raziel X

 

[sims796]

I don't get it. Didn't you apologize to Candymancan for jumping to concusions?

I kinda like X-Scizzor. But then again, Aerial Ace is good, since it hits fighting types as well.

 

[Anti]

Kabutops needs rain dance for speed :/ Otherwsie, it turns into a poor Feraligatr immatator.

 

[Iceman3k]

I said i didnt make any flamming comments if you saw me flamming you would know which you will see soon.

O rly?

if you dont like it well too bad go cry to your mommy.
Hmm?

2 HAX means HACKS you moron
lol

im not gonna argue with a idiot like you
Wow that doesn't look like flaming either does it

This is just too good for words. Shall I continue?

Lol reported wahhhh get a life loser.
That's most definitely the mature way to deal with things.

Seriusly you need reading lessons. I said i didnt make any flamming comments if you saw me flamming you would know which you will see soon.
I guess what you classify as "flamming" and what I classify as flaming are 2 different things.

Which means i didnt flame but i am now seriusly you guys make me wanna puke. No one was talking to you anyway so mind your own buisness and stop trying to defend another idiot who cant do it for himself.
Oh my god. =/

All your quotes and comment are comical to me so keep going. Like i said i can do this all day.
Then it won't take long for you to get temporarily suspended, will it?

To me you are immature little kids. I agree everytime i turn my computer on all i see is someone like you posting useless crap keeping a pointless argument going. I said 5 posts above i didnt want to continue the argument and flood the thread but SOMEONE kept going and now we end up here.
You know what you could've did to end the argument? IGNORE US.

I dont take **** from anyone and i wont stop until they do so please go crawl ina hole and die cuss your getting tiresome

Wow, even more flaming. I think you'll make a great forum entertainer. =)

Anyway, with that aside, I don't think I ever gave feedback on Mr. Satsusen's team, so I think I'll do that.

These are a few Pokemon I've decided to try out. I don't know how to distribute their EVs yet, except for the usual 252/252/6 spreads. Anywho, here they are.


Kabutops @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Adamant Nature
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 28 Def / 56 Spd
- Rain Dance
- Waterfall
- X-Scissor (against grass-types, most obviously.)
- Stone Edge
Kabutops can't Earthquake, sadly =(
And Rain Dance Kabutops doesn't really need that much Speed. 210 to start is enough.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
- Spore
- Swords Dance
- Sky Uppercut
- Stone Edge *angels sing in background*
If you plan on running all Speed, then you have a better shot of just using Swords Dance. Otherwise, run with a defensive EV Spread.

Vespiquen @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Brave Nature
- Attack Order
- Heal Order
- Sludge Bomb
- Power Gem

Needs work. Please help?

Can't help you on Vespiquen at the moment, but I'll figure something later.

 

[Lumine]

I'm not going to join in the flame wars as I don't like making enemies so I'm going to try and avoid this....

Vespiquen is kinda NU/UU tanker, try Umbreon / Swampert or something similar.

 

[Raziel_X007223]

Kabutops needs rain dance for speed :/ Otherwsie, it turns into a poor Feraligatr immatator.

Good point.... Though, he does have the speed already, it can alone with some EV training Outrun just about everything.... Rain Dance i see is a waste of one turn.. the turn that might cost you one pokemon...

But again, that's just me here...

 

[Anti]

I'm not going to join in the flame wars as I don't like making enemies so I'm going to try and avoid this....

Vespiquen is kinda NU/UU tanker, try Umbreon / Swampert or something similar.

Umbreon is fail. though yeah, swampert is a total beast. Don't get me started...lol

 

[Arsibiyez]

Seeing as Kabutops does have a double weakness to grass... I guess I should've seen it faster in Lumine's post. He mentioned that Ludicolo could take advantage of the Rain Dance. All this time I thought he was talking about Rain Dish. *lols at self*
Hmm... I'll try Rapid Spin. No weakness to steel, hooray. Resistant to Forry's booming, hooray. :D


Oh, and by the way Lumine, I've seen the comparison between an Adamant Breloom and a Jolly Breloom. And Jolly proved to be the more useful nature to me in Sapph. I needed those good quick Spores so I could use Bulk Up. It helped a whole lot in surviving Aerial Aces. :)

 

[Anti]

Satsusen, why did you keep breloom in to get hammered by repeated aerial aces? :/

Rapid spin...wise choice. You shouldn't be staying in against grassers anyhow...

 

[Lumine]

@APCW13
Lulz you really despise Umbreon dontchu? =P
Anyways want me to give a set for Swampert then?

@Satsusen
Awesome then Jolly Breloom it is for you =)

 

[Anti]

Eh, I only know 3rd gen mixpert. Here goes lol

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swampstar
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rest

I guess it could work in 4th too...

 

[Lumine]

Eh, I only know 3rd gen mixpert. Here goes lol

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** Swampstar
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Rest

I guess it could work in 4th too...

Is this 3rd / 4th gen issue?

And can I suggest a sleep talker set?

 

[Arsibiyez]

Oh no, far from hammering, Anti-pop! Bulking Up first gave me enough defenses to survive a hit (with enough HP to survive probably 3 more with Leftovers), after which I knocked that Skarm clear into the sky with a Focus Punch. But I didn't switch out 'coz I had already made 4 buffs, so it would've been a waste. I didn't sweep the whole team with that Breloom though, but it did enough. Long story short, I won that battle.

BUT THAT WAS 3RD GEN. :D

The 4th gen Breloom was blessed with the ability to learn Rock-type attacks. I'm so happy... =']

 

[Anti]

Is this 3rd / 4th gen issue?

And can I suggest a sleep talker set?

Milotic is much better for that. Mixpert is the best set I've used, but it's 3rd gen, so we need new opinions...

 

[Arsibiyez]

Didn't 4th gen Pert usually have Hammer Arm? :/

 

[Anti]

Didn't 4th gen Pert usually have Hammer Arm? :/

Noit that I know of. Mixpert is pwnage. With 236 SAtk, you OHKO CBmecvne...and I'd assume specsmence too, though I'm not really sure...hydro pump hammers skarm and even gengar pretty dang hard on the switch. Both usually like to absorb EQ, and hydro pump lets 'em have it.

 

[Lumine]

This is what I was thinking (sorry not familiar with 3rd gen stuff but I tried my best)

Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 240 HP / 58 SAtk / 212 Def
Relaxed
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Protect/Hidden Power (Electric)
-Surf/Hydro Pump?

 

[Anti]

Swampert usually has roar or rest in the 3rd slot. I've never seen one with HP electric.

 

[Lumine]

Swampert usually has roar or rest in the 3rd slot. I've never seen one with HP electric.

Actually try this set

Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 240 HP / 58 SAtk / 212 Def
Relaxed
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power (Electric)
-Hydro Pump

 

[Arsibiyez]

Hmm... I guess Hammer Arm is/was a novelty move on Pert. Anyway, this wasn't really supposed to be all on a team. I just wanted to give Vespi a chance so that maybe eventually I could incorporate her into a team where her potential as an offensive wall could be put to good use.