no, im saying its good, not crap, dont let the people further up put you off, everyone in this thread still has things to learn about spriting, members are nasty because they dont like your sprites, the way you say things or what you say, no-one is perfect, the best spriter could be outsprited, and then the better spriter would be outsprited aswell, the cycle goes on, no two people are the same and have different styles and ways to learn things. i hope this did something in your mind (made you think) im not nasty (unless someone pi**es me off) you will get better, everyone does.