Fix this atrocity

[Jordan]

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- U-turn
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse

Hit-and-run. All there is to it.
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Blaziken @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Blaze Kick
- Thunder Punch
- Sky Uppercut
- Shadow Claw

Physical Sweeping. I did not want any EV's in defense because of the unreliability of Blaziken's own.
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Forretress @ Macho Brace
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Selfdestruct
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball

Slow Stealh Rocker and Gyro Baller. Macho Brace to improve Gyro Ball's power, but maybe I can switch Leftovers with Vaporeon.
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Gardevoir @ Wise Glasses
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/108 Spd/12 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Will-o-wisp
- Wish
- HP Ice

Standard Double Status.
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Vaporeon @ Leftovers/Petaya Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Haze
- Hydro Pump
- Baton Pass

Wish Passer/Hazer/Petaya Passer (w/out hazing after activation of Petaya of course).
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It just seems that there is a gap somewhere. I am still deciding on the 6th Pokemon after the abolishment of Infernape. I am willing to accept extremely harsh but constructive criticism.

Jordan.

 

[ThePlaya]

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 Atk
Jolly nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Claw
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Or you can just leave it how you had it.Depends on how you want to use it.

Hit-and-run. All there is to it.

Blaziken @ Choice Band/Focus Sash
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Blaze Kick
- Thunder Punch
- Sky Uppercut
- Shadow Claw

Id say pretty good.

Physical Sweeping. I did not want any EV's in defense because of the unreliability of Blaziken's own.
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Forretress @ Macho Brace/Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Selfdestruct
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball/Rapid Spin

But if you do squeeze in rapid spin dont have macho brace on it....you need a spinner.
Slow Stealh Rocker and Gyro Baller. Macho Brace to improve Gyro Ball's power, but maybe I can switch Leftovers with Vaporeon.
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Gardevoir @ Wise Glasses
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/108 Spd/12 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- HypnosisPhsycic
- Will-o-wisp/Phsycic
- Wish
- HP Ice

Not sure how to work this.....

Standard Double Status.
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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish/Ice Beam/Toxic/Acid Armor
- Haze/Ice Beam/Toxic/Acid Armor
- Hydro Pump/Surf
- Baton Pass

Wish Passer/Hazer/Petaya Passer (w/out hazing after activation of Petaya of course).
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Maybe this should be your Sixth

Gengar@Wide Lens
Ability:Levitate
Nature:Timid
EVs:252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball

You need a good Sp.Attacker.

or

Starmie@?????Leftovers??????
Ability:Natural Cure
Nature:Timid
EVs:252 Speed, 252 Sp.Attack, 6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Surf
-Grass Knot/ Phsycic/Recover

this should work too


It just seems that there is a gap somewhere. I am still deciding on the 6th Pokemon after the abolishment of Infernape. I am willing to accept extremely harsh but constructive criticism.

Jordan.

Well i dont know much for Gardevoir but i think it should be used as a Sp.Attacker(i think).And Flygon should probably be a Physical Hitter.
Well i hope i helped:).

 

[Iceman3k]

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- U-turn
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
Salamence does this job three times better. And for the record, Flygon's Sp. Attack sucks, and I'm surprised to see that you don't know that.

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Blaziken @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Blaze Kick
- Thunder Punch
- Sky Uppercut
- Stone Edge
Infernape does this job 2x better than Blaziken since he has access to the ever-threatening Close Combat.
Also, Shadow Claw sucks on it.

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Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball

Slow Stealh Rocker and Gyro Baller. Macho Brace to improve Gyro Ball's power, but maybe I can switch Leftovers with Vaporeon.

Better idea. Get another Leftovers.
And DO NOT use Selfdestruct on Forretress. Ever.

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Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/108 Spd/12 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Will-o-wisp
- Wish
- HP Ice

Standard Double Status.
We'll deal with this one later

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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect / Roar
- Surf
- Ice Beam

Wish Passer/Hazer/Petaya Passer (w/out hazing after activation of Petaya of course).
It's too slow to try and pass Petaya Berry, and it's too bulky to activate Petaya in the first place.
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It just seems that there is a gap somewhere. I am still deciding on the 6th Pokemon after the abolishment of Infernape. I am willing to accept extremely harsh but constructive criticism.

Jordan.

Make the necessary replacement for the first 2 members. Team is in need of a Clean-Up Sweeper. Team is also weak against Heracross.

 

[Lumine]

Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball

Works better with Relaxed nature IMO


Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/108 Spd/12 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Will-o-wisp
- Wish
- HP Ice

Not sure about supporting Gardevoir, I was thinking something like this for status player

Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Modest
EVs: 252 HP / 136 DEF / 92 SPDEF / 28 SPD
Ability: Trace
-Psychic/Will-o-Wisp
-Wish
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis


Rest looks fine except you might wanna swap Flygon for something like Salamence, Garchomp, Dragonite etc

 

[J-Rad]

i prefer scarf on blaziken, since it will be outrun by most sweepers w/o it

 

[Dunsparce]

I know Forretress is your Physical Wall... but...

CBTress@Choice Band
Brave (get highest Attack and lowest speed possible)
Explosion/Pin Missile
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Gyro Ball

Not as good as the standard, but it can work if you switch it ina nd out at the right times.

 

[Anti]

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- U-turn
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse

If you're gonna use special attacks on something with 80 base special attack, I'd add a choice specs item to it...but I'd either replace it or run a physical/mixed moveset on it.

Hit-and-run. All there is to it.
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Blaziken @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Blaze Kick
- Thunder Punch
- Sky Uppercut
- Shadow Claw

I prefer adamant with choice scarf, but whatever works...

Physical Sweeping. I did not want any EV's in defense because of the unreliability of Blaziken's own.
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Forretress @ Macho Brace
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock / Spikes
- Gyro Ball

A spinner wouldn't hurt...

Slow Stealh Rocker and Gyro Baller. Macho Brace to improve Gyro Ball's power, but maybe I can switch Leftovers with Vaporeon.
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Gardevoir @ Wise Glasses
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/108 Spd/12 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Will-o-wisp
- Wish
- HP Ice

I would SO screw this up if I tried to rate it...

Standard Double Status.
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Vaporeon @ Leftovers/Petaya Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Haze
- Hydro Pump
- Baton Pass

I'm not to keen on hydro pump...if you're gonna BP, acid armor or (even better) sub would be a novel idea. But petaya passing is very "meh."


Wish Passer/Hazer/Petaya Passer (w/out hazing after activation of Petaya of course).
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It just seems that there is a gap somewhere. I am still deciding on the 6th Pokemon after the abolishment of Infernape. I am willing to accept extremely harsh but constructive criticism.

Jordan.

Edit in bold. Iceman3k and the others will be more of a help here than me...

 

[Archer]

Gengar@Wide Lens/Focus Sash
Ability:Levitate
Nature:Timid
EVs:252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball

@ thePlaya - Your gengar is a better choice IMO, as it is faster and can switch in on a predicted close combat. Focus sash lets it switch in or survive a Scarfers hit.

 

[Dunsparce]

HP Fighting > Focus Blast, do to its HORRENDOUS Accuracy

 

[Anti]

HP Fighting > Focus Blast, do to its HORRENDOUS Accuracy

It's a risk you gotta take...besides, getting HP fighting is extremely time-consuming and muy difficil (very difficult), so focus blast is prefered. Besides, the extra power often comes in handy...

 

[Azonic]

There is nothing that Special Flygon do that SpecsMence can't. And SpecsMence does it so much better.

Same thing goes for Blaziken. Infernape does it better.

Also, if you're not going for Rapid Spinning, use Steelix > Forry to escape the x4 Fire weak

 

[ultranerd57]

HP Fighting > Focus Blast, do to its HORRENDOUS Accuracy

He's also got hypnosis which has bad accuracy not as bad but that's why theres a cool little item called wide lens i love that thing.

 

[MegaDitto]

If you will use Flygon in a special sweeper form. Please use Choice Specs instead.....D:

Flygon @ Choice Band
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 Atk
Jolly nature
- Dragon Claw
- U-turn
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

The basic Choice Band sweeper will do just well for Flygon.

 

[Jordan]

ThePlaya: Gengar will be my 6th, for Energy Ball and Thunder Bolt support (Swampert and Skarm counters).

Iceman 3k: I know that Flygon's Sp. Attack has something to be desired, but I don't want a typical easy to wall Physical Flygon. Bear in mind that my sets have the Item Clause handicap, so 3 Leftovers are not allowed. No idea why I put Selfdestruct instead of Explosion there, but Rapid Spin will be just fine. I was thinking of a Rapid Spin Starmie though, but I chose Gengar as my 6th.

Lumine: Relaxed Forretress it is.

Dragonzilla25: Fixed Blaziken to fit Choice Scarf.

Dunsparce: Well...I prefer Forretress as a Wall, but thanks anyway.

Anti-Pop: Choice Specs to fit Flygon.

Azonic: Uh, trying to avoid big names like Mence.

Bleach and Sunshine: I'd still want a special hit-and-run Flygon though.

Thanks to everyone mentioned and posted in this thread.

Jordan.