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Mullet

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    Rate my team.

    Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Quetzalwhata
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 236 HP / 100 Def / 20 Spd / 154 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunderbolt

    ZOMG DON'T CLAUSE LEGENDS.

    Swampert (F) @ Leftovers ** MUDDY WATERZ!!1
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 240 HP / 16 Atk / 156 Def / 96 SAtk
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Curse
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Rest

    Oh my a Swampert.

    Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** lol anorexia
    Trait: Immunity
    EVs: 156 HP / 76 Atk / 136 Def / 140 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Rest
    - Shadow Ball

    Curselax, lol.

    Starmie @ Leftovers ** Shooting Star
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 76 HP / 180 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Spinner and special sweeper.

    Machamp (M) @ Choice Band ** Chuck Norris
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Cross Chop
    - Facade
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Rock Slide

    Don't **** with Chuck.

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Wyvern
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 148 HP / 236 Atk / 60 Spd / 64 SAtk
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    DEEDEEMENCE!

    Rate and fix.
     

    Synchronize

    Donphan: My Fourth Love
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    Mullet said:
    Rate my team.

    Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Quetzalwhata
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 236 HP / 100 Def / 20 Spd / 154 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunderbolt

    ZOMG DON'T CLAUSE LEGENDS.

    I like some of the HP into that Spd and SAtk. My personal opinion is that his SAtk EVs should be around 172+

    Swampert (F) @ Leftovers ** MUDDY WATERZ!!1
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 240 HP / 16 Atk / 156 Def / 96 SAtk
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Curse
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Rest

    Oh my a Swampert.

    What? No SDef? Take some Def and put it in SDef, and possibly few SAtk EVs should be transfered as well. Brave Nature IMO.

    Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers ** lol anorexia
    Trait: Immunity
    EVs: 156 HP / 76 Atk / 136 Def / 140 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Rest
    - Shadow Ball

    Curselax, lol.

    Zapdos well eat you alive. At least 172 SDef, as I learned the hard way. I'm also hoping a new spread I thought of might work:

    252 HP / 56 Atk / 160 Def / 40 SDef

    With Careful Nature of course


    Starmie @ Leftovers ** Shooting Star
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 76 HP / 180 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Spinner and special sweeper.

    A Few EVs from SAtk into HP and I'd say you're good. I like Surf in there somewhere, but whatever helps you sleep at night

    Machamp (M) @ Choice Band ** Chuck Norris
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Cross Chop
    - Facade
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Rock Slide

    Don't **** with Chuck.

    Speed on a Champ? More like HP and Def IMO. Don't forget about that wonderful move called Sleep Talk as well.

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Wyvern
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 148 HP / 236 Atk / 60 Spd / 64 SAtk
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    DEEDEEMENCE!

    WE LOVE YOU PRYOx2

    Rate and fix.

    Slightly allergic to boltbeam. That's why I never use Salamence and Zapdos on the same team. I'd say run Magneton over Zapdos or something Physically Tankish over Salamence/Machamp. Also seems like you need a cleric after everyone falls asleep. After that, Zapdos gives you a hell of a hard time.
     

    grandmaster192

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    Your team looks pretty good. But if it was me I would use DDragonite over DDsalamence and a Heracross over machamp.
     

    Mullet

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    Synchronize said:
    Slightly allergic to boltbeam. That's why I never use Salamence and Zapdos on the same team. I'd say run Magneton over Zapdos or something Physically Tankish over Salamence/Machamp. Also seems like you need a cleric after everyone falls asleep. After that, Zapdos gives you a hell of a hard time.

    I hadn't even thought of Zappy weak. I just wanted to use him because I don't seem him anymore.

    grandmaster192 said:
    Your team looks pretty good. But if it was me I would use DDragonite over DDsalamence and a Heracross over machamp.

    DDMence is much better than DDNite.

    CB Machamp is awesome dude. Not much can switch into him because almost everything takes a heavy hit from him. Not much can really wall Machamp.
     

    grandmaster192

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    Mullet said:
    DDMence is much better than DDnite


    I don't understand. Wouldn't dragonite's defence stats make it better? Allowing it to use more DD's?
     

    Mullet

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    grandmaster192 said:
    I don't understand. Wouldn't dragonite's defence stats make it better? Allowing it to use more DD's?

    Both of there base stat totals add up equaly but Mence gets more speed and attack so it can use DD's more effectivly. He is also considered to be better in general.
     

    Paradise

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    If Machamp is statused, Facade will have a base power of 100. You can get 2 more base power with Return/Frustration, without having to get statused. Just replace with Sleep Talk imo. Synchronize got the rest.
     

    Synchronize

    Donphan: My Fourth Love
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    That doesn't sound right for some odd reason. Guts and the Facade effect should provide a higher Base Power than 100. Either way I wouldn't suggest it, as Weezing will still wall you.
     

    Mullet

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    I don't even know why I put all those Speed EVs on him. He only needs a 180 Speed stat. This is the new Machamp

    Machamp (M) @ Choice Band ** Chuck Norris
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Cross Chop
    - Facade
    - Hidden Power

    Paradise, 70 x 2 (Facade)=140. So Guts plus boosted Facade would do more damage than Reture/Frustration.
     

    aragornbird

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    Paradise said:
    If Machamp is statused, Facade will have a base power of 100.

    What? No…Façade has a base power of 140 after status. And that's without the Guts boost. It's almost as strong as a STAB Cross Chop, but with a lot more Accuracy and PP.

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    Mullet

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    aragornbird said:
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    What? No…Façade has a base power of 140 after status. And that's without the Guts boost. It's almost as strong as a STAB Cross Chop, but with a lot more Accuracy and PP.

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    Well technically Guts boosts just base attack. Not move power.
     

    aragornbird

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    Mullet said:
    Well technically Guts boosts just base attack. Not move power.

    I know that. I'm just saying that even without Guts, a boosted Façade is only 10 points short of a Hyper Beam.

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    Fr0st

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    Synchronize is right on machamp, put the speed EV's in Defence and HP as Machamp isn't gonna outspeed anything
     

    Mullet

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    ice_blade said:
    Still... 252 is a little redundant

    It;s not redundant, just weird. I don't know why it was all there anyway. It was because I had to go and I just quickly set the EVs and never changed them, hmm. So I just went for CBer EVs.

    I changed it a while ago though and posted it. Look up in the thread.
     
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