GS Ball

[Houndour2004]

Thanks for the reminder!

I always wondered where to get a GS ball!

 

[Air Pichu]

I don't think it'd be extended over that far though.

But good idea.

 

[Vernikova]

SBaby's post.

Why wouldn't he know? He was Director of the show at the time so he would know.

weedle_mchairybug's post.

Wait. A person who doesn't work for the show has as much credibility as a former Director and a current Story Board artist when it relates to the show? Right.

So what if he didn't know that Platinum was created? He doesn't need to know since no elements have been inserted about the Battle Frontier besides the episode that has yet to air. Seriously, even you noted that the Gym Leader's Platinum teams have yet to be used. Also, that has nothing to do with something that happened years prior while he was at a higher position.

The voice actor switch? Again, he doesn't need to know that. That doesn't change anything about the Japanese dub of the show so it doesn't matter to them. Secondly, why would they discuss the voice actor switch when producing the special? It might've been discussed with the American side of the producers but it's not needed to produce the special at all.

I did. You didn't make any points that would disprove that he had knowledge of why the GS Ball or anything during the time. Now, answer me this weedle: Why do you believe what he said about Dawn and May being included for nothing outside of fanservice but disagree with the rest of what he says?

Exactly. The Japanese →staff←. It could be possible that they were going to introduce him. Maybe they changed their minds. There's no reason why they would lie to 4Kids or TPCi about if they weren't going to originally introduce him. Changes are made to the show, wait, any show, GS Ball being an example, over the course of its run.

When you get new information, in other words not the same crap you repeat everytime you argue with someone, you can disagree with me. Good-bye, God bless.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

I did. You didn't make any points that would disprove that he had knowledge of why the GS Ball or anything during the time. Now, answer me this weedle: Why do you believe what he said about Dawn and May being included for nothing outside of fanservice but disagree with the rest of what he says?

I don't actually "Believe" him in regards to the whole "Fanservice" issue (in order for me to "believe" him, I have to have never guessed it at all prior to his saying it, and as soon as I hear it, I blindly follow it as if it were truth.), In fact, I even figured out that that was their sole role BEFORE the interview was ever made, so that proves that I don't believe him.

Also, if the Japanese staff were intending to do it, but put it off, they shouldn't even TRY to say they are doing it until they are absolutely certain that they can do it. Since they didn't, it's no different than lying.

And yes, he would have EVERY reason to know about the VA switch. Remember, he was the director at that time, and PUSA and his writing staff co-created the entire thing. As they would have had to met with each other to discuss the stuff to implement into the special, he would have surely been briefed on even the possibility of using new VAs for the special, since that is part of development.

And about credibility, if said Storyboard Artist/Director had no knowledge of future events and lying to people, then yes, they ARE just as credible as someone who isn't working on the show.

 

[Vernikova]

weedle_mchairybug's post.

Okay, "believe" was the wrong word I guess. Whatever.

They're fault? They could've informed 4Kids after the 3rd movie. Who knows?

I guess PUSA didn't inform him since he didn't know. That would have to be the case, right? The only way he would've known was by PUSA telling him that the had new voice actors and since he didn't know, you know, they must not have briefed him.

Who did he lie to? Lying is deliberately not telling the truth. There's no evidence that he did that. Ash's dad you say? They, the staff, could've informed them later. Not knowing about Platinum? Explained already. So no, they aren't as credible. Saying someone that has no insight into a subject has as much credibility when compared to someone who does have insight is ridiculous. It lowers your credibility though weedle_mchairybug. Do you know why no one takes you seriously these days? Statements such as the one you made in your last post.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Okay, "believe" was the wrong word I guess. Whatever.

They're fault? They could've informed 4Kids after the 3rd movie. Who knows?

Maybe, but it still never changed the fact that they gave misinformation. Even IF they ended up actually thinking at the time that it would happen, that still doesn't change the fact that we should NEVER trust them in regards to the future.

I guess PUSA didn't inform him since he didn't know. That would have to be the case, right? The only way he would've known was by PUSA telling him that the had new voice actors and since he didn't know, you know, they must not have briefed him.

He's basically their boss in regards to how to handle the Anime. In otherwords, their immediate superior. If I left out a very vitallly important thing to MY Boss if I ever had a job and he later knows about it, he'd fire me. He would have done the very same thing, and going by how PUSA doesn't seem to have been hurt despite that...

Who did he lie to? Lying is deliberately not telling the truth. There's no evidence that he did that. Ash's dad you say? They, the staff, could've informed them later.

The writing staff should NEVER have told them in the first place until they were ABSOLUTELY certain that they would insert that plotline. Even if it's technically not lying (which then again, going by the use of "lying" being used now and these days, a mistake and a lie are no different now.), it still doesn't change the fact that we should never trust them with the future.

I mean, if I were in their shoes, I DEFINITELY would not mention anything about future events in the Show unless I was absolutely sure that I could work them into the plotline without dropping them.

Not knowing about Platinum? Explained already. So no, they aren't as credible. Saying someone that has no insight into a subject has as much credibility when compared to someone who does have insight is ridiculous.

If even we, the non-influential fanbase who knows absolutely nothing about the show, can know about Platinum's development months in advance, He should as well, so there is just no excuse as to how he WOULDN'T know about it. I still don't trust him in regards to future decisions, and you shouldn't either.

Besides, the writing staff should NEVER have told them in the first place until they were ABSOLUTELY certain that they would insert that plotline. Even if it's technically not lying (which then again, going by the use of "lying" being used now and these days, a mistake and a lie are no different now.), it still doesn't change the fact that we should never trust them with the future.

It lowers your credibility though weedle_mchairybug. Do you know why no one takes you seriously these days? Statements such as the one you made in your last post.

If no one took me seriously, then I would be as stupid as Homer Simpson, and I'm definitely not that, seeing how I've not only graduated High School with A's and B's, but I also made the President's Letter Award for four years straight. If I was insane, I'd definitely wouldn't be posting this message, as I would be banging against a padded cell in a straitjacket.

EDIT: For the record, I do believe in the whole GS Ball originally containing Celebi, as well as Brock's leaving, and Tracey's conception (And that's ONLY because of it having already happened.). The point is whether we should trust him with future events.

 

[Vernikova]

weedle_mchairybug's post.

I don't see why 4Kids wouldn't trust the Japanese staff at the time.
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Wait, wait, what? Why would he fire them? He can't because he's not their boss and as a result can't fire them. Provide any proof that can signify that he has the authority to fire employees that don't work for him.
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I guess you won't trust them then. I mean, if you were in their shoes, as you said, you would definitely not tell them and that's how you would do it. Too bad they aren't you and decided to tell them.
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Just because you know the development of a game, that doesn't mean you know developments about the animé. Likewise, just because someone knows developments about the show, it doesn't mean that they know about developments about the games. Him not knowing a game's development, which isn't even his job to know, doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about the show, which he does work for.

Either way, it's not like I'll listen to the Japanese anymore than I do now. I mainly focus on the American side of things.
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Just because you're smart you think people will take you seriously? It doesn't work that way if a person has a history of making points that the majority doesn't agree with and think are silly. It's too bad for you that this is very true in your case.

As for your edit, you can whether or not you can trust him with future events. It's clear you can trust him with past events though since there is no reason to lie.