Hail, the stronger rain [lol]

[Johny_Hungry]

Ok, so rain... i gave up on it... there is really no damaging factor to it like my previous sandstorm team, and htis attempt. I'm not exactly sure how this would work, but this is my attempt. The started would be MixSnow, but hey this is an attempt... the pokemon after the line... are repalcements that i may be using.

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Admant
EVs: 124 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 64 Def/ 68 Spd.
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Avalanche
- Ice Shard

Froslass @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attk/252 Spd./ 6 Hp
- Destiny Bond
- Confused Ray
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 Hp/ 100 Def / 156 Sp.A
- Block
- Calm Mind
- Psycic
- Rest

Abonasnow @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 Hp/ 20 Sp. Atk/ 160 Sp. Def/ 76 Spd
- Wood Hammer
- Blizzard
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 Hp/ 6 Atk /252 Def
- Earthquake
- Avalanche
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall

Weezing @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Quite
EVs: 120 Hp/ 136 Atk/ 252 Sp. Atk
- Sludgebomb
- Flamethrower
- Shadowball
- Explosion

 

[boo836]

Colbur berry will not do anything to help frosslass. It's a ghost type. >.>

Also, what's up with weezing? No to shadow ball and sludge bomb. And those evs won't work. He's a wall. But yeah, I need to go.

Edit: Along with its moves, the evs and nature hinder so badly, it's not funny.

 

[Walrein]

Weezing should have Will-o-Wisp.

 

[Azonic]

Mamoswine: What is it doing with 2 Ice Moves? One or the other, please. I suggest Peck to replace them if you want a Heracross counter​

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Froslass: Colbur Berry will do nothing to it. Replace, please. Confuse Ray is terrible. Its ruined by a simple switch. A back-up Hailer never hurts. If hail is going to be running from that time, please replace Icebeam with Blizzard. ​

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Bronzong: Psychic has terrible coverage. Please don't use it. Scrap it for something more useful like Gyro Ball or Earthquake.​

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Abomasnow: Meh, I guess its okay. I don't understand Protect. Why the Speed EVs? ​

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Swampert: I often find Stone Edge unreliable, especially when there's already Quakevalanche. But I'd run MixPert with Rest on your team. ​

 

[flamehaze94]

You've spelled Psychic wrong, for Bronzong

Also, you'll need a good Rapid Spinner and a better fire resist that isn't weak to Grass, a common typing that goes well with fire

 

[Anti]

Also Mixpert with Rest on a team with no cleric support is not going to help, especially when Electivire comes along.

Also I don't really get what you're doing with the hail theme...you don't really use it much. also your most important walls get hurt by it. ew.

 

[El Gofre]

Im no good with weather teams, but i know frosglass needs to run away from that berry. Sure, you'll resist dark type attacks once, but what about the fire, rock, steel and ghost attacks? Find a more reliable option. Destiny bond is also a bad option. You use bond>They Miss Dude to snow cloak>Your plan is exposed. The specs set is the most efficient i find.

 

[PokeFlora]

4/10 are you joking me. i'll help you out a bit. for a hail team this is a giant fail. You got huge gaps and no way to cover them.

Ok, so rain... i gave up on it... there is really no damaging factor to it like my previous sandstorm team, and htis attempt. I'm not exactly sure how this would work, but this is my attempt. The started would be MixSnow, but hey this is an attempt... the pokemon after the line... are repalcements that i may be using.

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Admant
EVs: 124 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 64 Def/ 68 Spd.
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Avalanche/Stone edge
- Ice Shard

Curse mamo is alright but CB heracross one hit k.o this bad boy, Why start with mamoswine its ability is useless if its a starter and with a bunch of curses after you pull onw off ou get totally walled because most starters have taunt. Quick list of common starters to rape mamo. Infernape,gyara(eat you for breakfest and set up),Tyranitar(you can 2hit k.o with EQ),Gengar,crobat. Mamo is a beast but he's a late game sweeper with this set. If jolly@focus sash 252/252 atk peed it can pull of being a mid-game sweeper never a starter with this moveset

Froslass @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attk/252 Spd./ 6 Hp
- Destiny Bond
- Confused Ray
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
meh typical forslass,keep the berry it works wonders. Leave it for late game switch in on a fighting move and get ready to set up and sweep. better to switch in on CB/CS pokemon.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 Hp/ 100 Def / 156 Sp.A
- Block
- Calm Mind
- Psycic
- Rest

What are you thinking get rid of zong. why add another fire weakness >__>. TENTACRUEL is a must on this team. It resists what yoru weak to >__>

Abonasnow @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 Hp/ 20 Sp. Atk/ 160 Sp. Def/ 76 Spd
- Focus punch
- Blizzard
- Leech Seed
- Sub

Go timid nature you dont need ab being a mix attacker. Leach seed causes switches and thats when you sub and focus punch.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 Hp/ 6 Atk /252 Def
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall

when fighting a hail team opponents are forced to make a lot of switching because they need to get the weather back or need to get rid of leach seed which makes SR a must. Add SR i would lose avalanche all yoru pokes know ice atks lose it for SR. Mix-pert could work well here to

Weezing @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Quite
EVs: 120 Hp/ 136 Atk/ 252 Sp. Atk
- Sludgebomb
- Flamethrower
- Shadowball
- Explosion

Lose weezing and get Walrein. It walls better then weezing and regains health due to its ability.

Trust me i have about 2-3 hail teams and this one is an epic fail. Take my advice and make the changes. Pm me if your confused about anything.

Threat list.
Before my changes.
3 200%weak to fire and 1 400% week to fire,Resistence 50% swampert.
That means porygon Z,Infernape,or anything else that learn Fire+grass can k.o your team by itself.

No resistence's to dark,ghost,only super effective against lass

3 weakneses to steel,2 resistences zong,swamp. That means your hole team get get sweeped by a heatran as well asumming its scarfed.

Ohh the threat list is no where complete. I'm just lazy and want to go find i battle ill coem edit this and finish the list. With my changes you cover are your weaknesses by the way.

 

[Myzou]

Walrein. A staple part of any Hail Team, he can learn an ability to restore health every turn hail is out similar to leftover, but it STACKS with leftovers, making a total 12% hp recovery per turn :/

Also, I'd suggest putting Jynx in somewhere... I'd personally replace Swampert, but I also don't like a lot of walls ;)

 

[Johny_Hungry]

Abonasnow @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 Atk/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 252 Spd.
- Focus Punch
- Blizzard
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Admant
EVs: 124 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 64 Def/ 68 Spd.
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Ice Shard

Froslass @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Sp. Attk/252 Spd./ 6 Hp
- Thunder Wave
- Confused Ray
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Walrein @ Leftovers
Ability: Ice Body
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 Hp/ 252 Def/ 6 Spd.
- Protect
- Substitute
- Toxic/ Earthquake/ Roar
- Blizzard

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
Nature: Calm
EVs: 204 Hp/ 96 Sp. Atk/ 172 Sp. Def / 36 Spd
- Rapid Spin
- Sludge Bomb
- Toxic Spikes
- Surf

Weezing @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 Hp/ 252 Def/ 6 Spd
- Sludge Bomb
- WoW
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

 

[boo836]

Colbur berry off froslass NOW. Wait, I'm thinking of chople. O_o Anyways, colbur berry still only works once and froslass needs something better. Life orb any one?

Weezing: @ lefties
Nature: Relaxed
Evs: Can't remember them sadly :(
Wow
T-bolt/ Flamethrower
pain split
Explosion

Hit gyra or hera, your choice

And no to timid on snow. He wants att and spatt.

Walrien goes bye. Bring back swampy. Weezing takes nape on as does swampy at an extent.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Colbur berry off froslass NOW. Wait, I'm thinking of chople. O_o Anyways, colbur berry still only works once and froslass needs something better. Life orb any one?

Weezing: @ lefties
Nature: Relaxed
Evs: Can't remember them sadly :(
Wow
T-bolt/ Flamethrower
pain split
Explosion

Hit gyra or hera, your choice

And no to timid on snow. He wants att and spatt.

Walrien goes bye. Bring back swampy. Weezing takes nape on as does swampy at an extent.

EWWWW


Weezing@Leftovers
196 HP / 252 DEF / 60 SP.ATT
Bold Nature
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt
- Will-o-wisp / Haze
- Pain Split


Dont blow up your main physical wall EVAR !!!


Evs on this set guarantee a 2hko on Heracross and generate max lefties recovery.


EDIT: Looking at this, Metal Sound, Hidden power Grass Heatran OHKO's everything, needs more starmie or Tentacruel.

 

[sims796]

EVAR!!!!!

Someone mentioned something about Mamoswine having two Ice attacks. There is an exception to this rule. When a move has a certain priority, (for instance, Avalance is for power, but Ice Shard is for weakend pokes & quick kills) it is acceptable t use two same type moves. Examples are:

Specsmence (Draco Meteor & dragon Pusle
Tysplosion (Eruption/Overheat & Flame Thrower)
Floatzel/Azumarill (Waterfall & Aqua Jet)

Just wanted to throw that in.

 

[Faceless*]

Your Weezing is quite interesting O_O Take out both Shadow Ball and Sludge Bomb on it and give it Will-o-Wisp and ... you choose Haze or Thunderbolt

Drop Avalanche AND Curse on Mamoswine, please, Curse well.. Mamoswine isn't exeptionally the one to take hits, (Special Attacks will ALSO bite you hard) and Avalanche causes you to move before your opponent.

 

[Johny_Hungry]

Your Weezing is quite interesting O_O Take out both Shadow Ball and Sludge Bomb on it and give it Will-o-Wisp and ... you choose Haze of Thunderbolt

Drop Avalanche AND Curse on Mamoswine, please, Curse well.. Mamoswine isn't exeptionally the one to take hits, (Special Attacks will ALSO bite you hard) and Avalanche causes you to move before your opponent.

Avalanche does not cause you to move before your opponite... it actually has your opponite go first when it comes to the attack... i learned that w/ an old TTar i used...

 

[Faceless*]

Avalanche does not cause you to move before your opponite... it actually has your opponite go first when it comes to the attack... i learned that w/ an old TTar i used...

I made a mistake, I meant to say after. It should be obvious to know that if Avalanche does have that unique effect, it would obviously be better over Ice Shard

 

[boo836]

Tysplosion (Eruption/Overheat & Flame Thrower)

That is a no. Actually. Earthquake or focus punch over flamethrower.

Ya, explosion is an option but is not favored by many. I was just listing that option.

 

[sims796]

That is a no. Actually. Earthquake or focus punch over flamethrower.

Ya, explosion is an option but is not favored by many. I was just listing that option.

And THAT is wrong. In a Specs Modest set, it is the same principle as SpecsMence. Roserade does the same thing, with Leaf Storm.