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Help a Noob this Christmas...

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Calamity

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    So yeah, as the title says I need help with my team, i'm not a complete noob with pokemon but i'm not doing too well in the competitve side of things, movesets, distibuting the Ev's etc... So i'm wondering if any of you's can give me some tips on how to improve this team, maybe replace a few pokemon in it, whatever will help me. i'd be really greatful. :)

    And heres the team...

    Typhlosion Lv 100
    Moveset: Swift, Rollout, Flamethrower, Eruption
    Rash nature
    Hp: 283
    Atk: 195
    Def: 188
    Sp. Atk: 303
    Sp. Def: 190
    Speed: 265

    Flygon Lv 100
    Moveset: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Fire blast, Roost
    Adamant nature
    Hp: 281
    Atk: 317
    Def: 168
    Sp. Atk: 161
    Sp. Def: 169
    Speed: 287

    Heracross Lv 70
    Moveset: Brick break, Megahorn, Strength, Close combat
    Adamant nature
    Hp: 222
    Atk: 215
    Def: 138
    Sp. Atk: 79 (lol)
    Sp def: 169
    Speed: 154

    Tyranitar Lv 55
    Moveset: Crunch, Stone edge, Payback, Earthquake
    Lax nature
    Hp: 190
    Atk: 171
    Def: 155
    Sp. Atk: 123
    Sp. Def: 120
    Speed: 78

    My last two are my Floatzel and Electivire, I cant give you their stats atm 'cos there been trained up by two helpful people :D
    Floatzels moveset: Ice beam, Rain dance, Surf, Return
    Electivires moveset: Ice punch, Thunder punch, Cross chop, Earthquake

    So please, any helpers? :)
     
    First of all, if this is for WiFi and not Shoddy/Pokemon Online, you'll need to learn how to IV breed (unless you already know in which case you just have to put it into practice). With IV breeding you can get your Flygon's stats up to 302 HP / 328 Atk / 196 Def & SDef / 176 SAtk / 299 Speed with an Adamant nature and a simple 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP spread. Shoddy and PO will do this automatically for you, so it's good to use that to test teams if indeed this is for WiFi.

    As for the team itself, I think the best advice I can give you is to test it on one of the simulators that I just mentioned. There you can test your team, which is automatically at level 100 with perfect IVs and you don't even have to EV train. There are definitely some weaknesses, but it's more helpful for you to learn yourself.

    But I won't be useless. The movesets could use some work, so I'll go through them now.

    Typhlosion

    Eruption is a shaky choice because Stealth Rock is extremely common. This will take 1/4 of Typhlosion's HP upon switching in, and Eruption will be weakened. Since you don't have a Rapid Spinner (they're used to get rid of Stealth Rock), it will hurt. Rollout is extremely weak, so Hidden Power Rock is a very good substitute. Swift is also rather weak, so using Focus Blast is an option for some better type coverage. Typhlosion's ability can be abused with Substitute (which will lower its HP to activate Blaze), but it's risky with Tyranitar on your team.

    Flygon

    Flygon's two best sets are Choice Band and Choice Scarf versions. Both of them use Earthquake and Outrage (you need Platinum to get Outrage, otherwise Dragon Claw is a decent alternative). Fire Blast is usually the Fire move. The move that will need to be replaced is Roost since it's poor for a choice set. U-turn is almost always the move of choice in the fourth slot. It allows you to scout your opponent, which gives you the chance to figure out how you want to beat your opponent, what Pokemon need to be sacrificed, etc. Flygon is a solid choice.

    Heracross

    Like Flygon, this runs a choice set most of the time, but the SD set is probably the best in OU. I have used it to great success (especially behind dual screens). The set is this:

    Heracross @ Life Orb
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Close Combat
    - Megahorn
    - Stone Edge

    This has the power of a SD Lucario but with more stallbreaking potential. It does have issues with faster Pokemon though, which is why it needs dual screens (Reflect and Light Screen support Pokemon).

    The choice sets are still fine though, Close Combat and Megahorn stay along with Stone Edge and Night Slash. Pursuit is decent on the Choice Bander but it doesn't hit as hard as Pursuit from Scizor or Tyranitar, so be mindful of that.

    Tyranitar

    This can run too much to list so I think that its Smogon page will be more useful.

    But if I may make a personal recommendation, the Choice Bander and the lure sets have been the best in my experiences. For someone who is new like you, using one of those is a great way to help you hone your prediction skills. Both sets require skill to use, and you can get a lot out of practicing with them. It's much more prediction-reliant than Flygon and Heracross, even though they too are locking themselves into one move.

    Floatzel

    I wish I could be more helpful here but I've never seen a Floatzel used in a competitive battle. Again, I'll just link to its Smogon page. but before you check that out I can honestly tell you that there are better Pokemon to use. The best physical Water-type attacker is Gyarados, which is best when it's running its standard Dragon Dance set:

    Gyarados @ Leftovers / Life Orb
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake / Ice Fang

    This can run Jolly nature to outspeed Jolteon after a Dragon Dance. I usually like Leftovers over Life Orb since Gyarados is bulky and has good defensive typing, and Life Orb wears it down very quickly. Life Orb does give it a lot more power though. But again, Tyranitar's Sand Stream is an issue if you use Life Orb. I have been hinting at getting rid of it since it hurts some of your teammates, so if you do decide to go that route you can replace if with a strong physical attacker like Machamp or Dragonite. If you choose to do that, I can give you some good movesets. If not, that's fine too. Tyranitar is a great Pokemon.

    Electivire

    Electivire is actually made fun of a lot for having great type coverage but poor power. Electivire can't break through common walls like Swampert, Bronzong, and Hippowdon. Electivire can make up for this to some extent with its mixed set:

    Electivire @ Expert Belt
    Trait: Motor Drive
    EVs: 40 Atk / 216 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Cross Chop

    This lets it break walls after they have been weakened some. HP Grass covers Swampert and Hippowdon. HP Ice can be used if you're terrified of Gliscor. It is bashed a lot, but that doesn't mean that it's useless. This is another set that helps with prediction since you'll want to switch it in on Electric-type attacks to get it a Speed boost from Motor Drive.

    You'll probably find out the the current line-up you have lacks synergy, or a coherent focus that all six team members work towards. However, you can soon pick this up and edit this team once you battle with it some. These movesets are just to help you get started, and of course, you can always post here for more help with this team or even with a new team if you decide to go that route.
     
    now i don't know much about competitive play but a good moveset for Typhlosion is
    Sunny Day
    Solar Beam (covers all its weaknesses!)
    Flamethrower
    Eruption/lava plume
     
    Wow, thanks Anti! Just what i wanted :D Yeah I think im going to drop Tyranitar as sandstorm really doesnt do me any favours, so if anyone can think of a good replacement please say! :D And yeah sounds pretty good patjamma, swift and rollout dont really do anything competivley, its mostly just spamming eruption lol
     
    Don't revive threads over a month old please. Feel free to make a new thread if you need some more rates.

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