help my team full of annoyers please

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    jumpluff@wide lens
    jolly nature
    252spd/252hp/4atk
    -leech seed
    -sleep powder
    -substitute
    - u - turn

    dusknoir@lefties
    careful nature
    252hp/ even spread with atk and def
    -WoW
    -thunder punch
    -brick break
    -pain split

    starmie@lefties
    timid nature
    252spd/80hp/the rest sp.atk
    -thunderbolt
    -thunder wave/confuse ray
    -recover
    -ice beam

    ludicolo@lefties
    ???? nature
    leech seed
    giga drain
    rain dance
    ???

    togikiss@lefties
    ??? nature
    lol help again

    spiritomb@???
    ??? nature

    HELP PLEASE
     
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    Crobat, Togekiss, Gallade/Gardevoir (or both if you feel like it)

    If you want annoying walls, try SkarmBliss with Claydol support, that way Claydol walls what the others cannot
     
    ok i want to make a team of annoyers to pee off my friend this is what i have so far:

    my lead
    jumpluff@lefties
    jolly nature
    252spd/252hp/4atk
    -leech seed
    -sleep powder
    -Substitute
    - u - turn

    Jumpluff is a rather amazing Pokemon that will suprise people. I've used it as leads before. But it's defenses are rather low and Sub will definately protect it as it SubLeechs.

    dusknoir@lefties
    careful nature
    252hp/ even spread with atk and def
    -WoW
    -thunder punch/Ice Punch
    -Shadow Punch/Shadow Sneak
    -pain split

    Shadow Punch gives Dusknoir a potent STAB move. Though I wont deny that Shadow Sneak is useless. Depends on your taste.



    My edits are in bold. Umbreon is also known as the Queen of all annoyers so you might want to look into that. Jirachi with Wish support?
     
    so far my team is
    jumpluff
    dusknoir

    EDIT sry punishment i didnt see ur post i like the idea of umbreon can u give me a build for it please

    EDIT EDIT what about yanmega my frav. bug lol

    EDIT AGAIN LOl i also like the idea of gallade and garvidour
     
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    take ludiculo with rain dish, leach seed, rain dance and giga drain. max its defences and send it out against a poke win no super effective moves. it will annoy him no end :)
     
    no thanx i already got a leech seeder

    can anyone give me a build for a annoying UMBREON, GALLADE, GARVIDOR
     
    If you want a team of annoyers, you pretty much should have kludicolo. You can have more than one pokemon w/ leech seed you know.

    Wait, don't annoyers fail in competitive battles?
     
    yea they do but i like to play around with teams...im only gonna use this team to vs my friend



    so whats a good ludicolo build
     
    Punishment Shadow Sneak on Dusknoir is NOT useless AT ALL makes an excellent finish attack move. (and I tested it before)
     
    if you want jumpluff to be effective in any way, then you MUST give it Wide Lens for both Sleep Powder and Leech Seed. its defenses are actually not that bad... the problem is its compelling weaknesses. it is also not the fastest candidate as a starter, so i wouldn't use it as a starter.

    dusknoir needs brick break. ice punch and shadow sneak are pointless on it when it's main concern is will-o-wisp, so be sure to give it both thunderpunch and brick break.
     
    ok ive edited my first post

    i need help on some pkmn
     
    Ludi...I'm a 3rd gen player, so I can't help there :/ Uh, I know rain dish + rain dance + leech seed is nice and what it uses, but I never used it 4th gen, so yeah.
     
    so whats a good set u use in third gen
     
    I can hardly remember that one...I'm sick, and not getting any better, so my help probably isn't too worthwhile, but I'll try.

    Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers ** Musicman
    Trait: Rain Dish
    EVs: Like I remember
    Ditto on the nature
    - Leech Seed
    - Rain Dance
    - Giga Drain
    - lol wut? Surf?

    Yeah, my help is useless. Somebody can give you more accurate info at the moment.
     
    thanx

    um do u know a good set for umbreon, togikiss, spiritomb
     
    I think Bronzong is pretty annoying.

    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Levitate
    -- Calm Mind
    -- Psychic / Shadow Ball / Hidden Power (Fight)
    -- Flash Cannon / Shadow Ball / Hidden Power (Fight)
    -- Rest / Hypnosis / Light Screen

    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Levitate
    -- Stealth Rock
    -- Hypnosis
    -- Gyro Ball
    -- Rest

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Rain Dish
    -- Rain Dance
    -- Leech Seed
    -- Substitute / Synthesis
    -- Ice Beam / Blizzard (Leech Seed is ineffective against Grass-types)

    Tangrowth @ The Rock that increases Sunny Day duration.
    Leaf Guard
    -- Sunny Day
    -- Rest (Can replace with Ingrain, but then Sunny Day should be removed too)
    -- Hidden Power (Fire)
    -- Leech Seed

    Togekiss @ King's Rock
    Serene Grace
    -- Air Slash
    -- Thunder Wave
    -- Swagger / Fire Blast
    -- Silver Wind / Ancient Power / Nasty Plot

    Umbreon @ ???
    Synchronize
    -- Toxic
    -- Mean Look
    -- Moonlight / Wish
    -- Confuse Ray / Taunt
     
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    thanx

    um do u know a good set for umbreon, togikiss, spiritomb

    Spiritomb is up there on the best annoyers list. I use one myself, so just ask the people who battle me how annoying it is. But be careful with him... he's far less frightening when his HP has been lowered too much. This is a decent annoyer set:

    Spiritomb @ Leftovers
    Impish/Careful Nature
    EVs: 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 SpDef
    - Pursuit
    - Pain Split
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Hypnosis

    Makes a great lead. It's OHKOed by very little without a critical hit (with a +SpDef nature and those EVs, it can survive a SpecsMence Draco Meteor), Paint Splits away any damage, and supports its team mates with Will-O-Wisp and Hypnosis. Pursuit is there for STAB, and makes him the BEST Alakazam counter. Unlike Dusknoir, Spiritomb is immune to two of the most common attacks on Alakazam, and takes mediocre damage from Shadow Ball. And when Zam switches, hit him with Pursuit for a quick KO. You could also run Sucker Punch with those natures, or Dark Pulse with a Bold or Calm nature. Up to preference.
     
    Punishment Shadow Sneak on Dusknoir is NOT useless AT ALL makes an excellent finish attack move. (and I tested it before)

    Err I dont know why you're attacking me.

    In fact if you carefully read what you posted I am saying Shadow Sneak isn't useless and has it's uses.
     
    lol i tried shadow sneak out against my cousin
    i use thunderpunch on his alakazam then finish wit a shadow sneak

    i lol-ed at him

    thanx for all the advice
    so heres my team so far

    spiritomb
    tangroth
    bronzong
    dusknoir
    ludicolo
    ???


    help please
    i think i got too many walls/tanks xD
    i need sweepers any suggestions?

    EDIT: could i use yanmega in my team as well
     
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