Help with my G/S/C team please

t0shiba

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    Well as i havent played pokemon in a few years im not too sure as far as this team goes, but after reading some posts here and at other places i think ive composed a pretty decent team. This will mainly be just for fighting my friends so it doesnt have to be perfect. I apprecciate any help and im sorry that i didnt put any items, but to be honest i really have no idea what to put as i cant really remmember what most items do. Im also a bit unsure as far as evs go. If you could suggest some items as well as changes which should be made ill be very appreciative. Thanks a lot.

    Well here it is:

    Vaporeon (M) @ (No Item)
    Trait: Water Absorb

    - Haze
    - Ice Beam
    - Shadow Ball
    - Surf

    Mew @ (No Item)
    Trait: Synchronize
    - Explosion
    - Psychic
    - Surf
    - Soft Boiled

    Mewtwo @ (No Item)
    Trait: Pressure
    - Fire Punch
    - Psychic
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Snorlax (M) @ (No Item)
    Trait: Immunity
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    Ho-oh @ (No Item)
    Trait: Pressure
    - Flamethrower
    - Recover
    - Sunny Day
    - Thunderbolt

    Arcanine (M) @ (No Item)
    Trait: Intimidate
    - Extremespeed
    - Flamethrower
    - Roar
    - Toxic
     
    I'll explain what's wrong with the team when you help me understand if this is actually a GSC team, or an Advanced Generation team using only pokemon that were obtainable during GSC.
     
    GSC teams DO NOT have traits.
     
    i was just using the netbattle creater to make life easier, just ignore those, sorry.
     
    In that case, I'd like to first make sure you know that in GSC, there were no natures, traits, or EVs. The only thing you have to worry about are DVs, which you have no direct control over[/b]

    t0shiba said:
    Well as i havent played pokemon in a few years im not too sure as far as this team goes, but after reading some posts here and at other places i think ive composed a pretty decent team. This will mainly be just for fighting my friends so it doesnt have to be perfect. I apprecciate any help and im sorry that i didnt put any items, but to be honest i really have no idea what to put as i cant really remmember what most items do. Im also a bit unsure as far as evs go. If you could suggest some items as well as changes which should be made ill be very appreciative. Thanks a lot.

    Well here it is:

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers

    - Haze
    - Ice Beam
    - Reflect
    - Surf

    Vappy has no reason to use Shadow Ball. You can also use Growth or Curse along with Baton Pass

    Mew @ Leftovers

    - Explosion
    - Psychic
    - Surf
    - Soft Boiled

    Meh, IMO, you can slap anything on mew and make a good set, but to exploit the fact that it's hard to guard against physical attacks in GSC, you might want to try a Swords Dance set.

    Mewtwo @ Leftovers

    - Fire Punch
    - Psychic
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Same comment as Mew, only Curse is an option over Swords Dance. Mewtwo gets Flamethrower iirc.

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers

    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    K.

    Ho-oh @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    - Flamethrower / Sacred Fire
    - Recover
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderbolt

    Another uber. Same comment as Mewtwo. Don't neglect Ho-Oh's great Atk stat, and feel free to try Shadow Ball somewhere.

    Arcanine (M) @ (No Item)
    Trait: Intimidate
    - Extremespeed
    - Flamethrower
    - Roar
    - Toxic

    I can't say I use this at all, but I can defeinitely say that Roar isn't that great of an option. If anything I would use Curse + Extremespeed and HP Fighting.
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    As far as GSC teams go on NB, this might be shunned for having 3 ubers, but then again, i don't know the standard rules for using GSC teams with ubers. I would say you have problems taking physical hits, but with 3 ubers on the team, it's pretty hard for physical sweepers (save snorlax) to switch in.

    edit: If you're in GSC mode in the team Builder, you can still Export to Text and get a GSC format of your team.
     
    Thanks alot for that help, like i said im gonna be fighting friends who are gonna be using ubers too, gonna be using link cable fighting not nb.
    A friend has this plan in mind that i think should be pretty easy to counter, hes gonna use a poliwrath with quickclaw, use suresight? or whichever move it is that ensures the next attack will hit, and use fissure. I was thinking of the arcanine with quickclaw and the extreme speed should make quick work of that plan, any better ideas?
     
    Yeah. When your friend uses that crappy two-turn combo, switch out to a different Poke (preferably Ho-oh), and then laugh at him for using such a stupid combo.
     
    I would make fun of your friend at the moment, but he's not signed up on any forum i frequent, so it wouldn't be very fullfilling.
     
    Had to dig through the archives, but here is the KING of GSC:

    Machamp
    - Cross Chop
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Rock Slide

    This thing rulez all.
     
    More like Lovely Kiss Nidoking.
     
    could you give me a template for mew or mewtoo? or should i try making one and then let you critique it
     
    What did you mean by Hp fighting? And hows this instead:

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    - Haze
    - Ice Beam
    - Reflect
    - Surf

    Mew @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Rock Slide
    - Softboiled
    - Swords Dance

    Mewtwo @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    Ho-oh @ Leftovers
    - Earthquake
    - Flamethrower
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Arcanine (M) @ Quick Claw
    - Crunch
    - Curse
    - Extremespeed
    - Flamethrower
     
    t0shiba said:
    What did you mean by Hp fighting? And hows this instead:

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    - Haze
    - Ice Beam
    - Reflect
    - Surf

    Mew @ Leftovers
    - Submission
    - Rock Slide
    - Softboiled
    - Swords Dance

    Mewtwo @ Leftovers
    - Submission
    - Curse
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    - Body Slam
    - Curse
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    Ho-oh @ Leftovers
    - Earthquake
    - Flamethrower
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Arcanine (M) @ Quick Claw
    - Crunch
    - Curse
    - Extremespeed
    - Flamethrower
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    HP Fighting means a Fighting Type Hidden Power. It's suggested for NB use, but since it comes out random in-game, don't worry about it.
     
    why submission? Isnt it only 80 power, 80% accuracy and it hurts the user? Whereas body slam is 85 power, 100% accuracy and causes enemy para? Or does it come out different in the game.
     
    t0shiba said:
    why submission? Isnt it only 80 power, 80% accuracy and it hurts the user? Whereas body slam is 85 power, 100% accuracy and causes enemy para? Or does it come out different in the game.
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    Because without it you cant hurt Golem, Rhydon, or Steelix.
     
    o ok. So do you think i should maybe only put it on one of them? and body slam on the other? or put it on both.
     
    Personally I'd have it on both. Although personally, I wouldn't have them both on the same team.
     
    You wouldn't want me to answer that, as it would result in me changing the whole team. What you have right now is fine, just keep Submission in mind.
     
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