HeraReversalSubSweep? Impossible!

[F-F-Franklin]

The Team:

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Grumpig @ Iron Ball
252 hp/16 def/140 sAtk/100 sDef
Calm Nature
~ Trick
~ Counter
~ Psychic
~ Magic Coat

Grumpig may seem like a joke, but it has a great role as an anti lead. The first move, Trick, is probably one of the most important moves on this set. Iron Ball isn't something Grumpig hates to use, as it is pretty slow already, so things such as Azelf and the like are screwed up by it. Another fun option with trick is stealing any kind of walls' leftovers and taking it to good use. Counter and 16 Def EVs are used in par to defeats the physical threats such as Tyranitar, Gyarados, you name it. Psychic is used here to take advantage of a Choice Item that may be tricked Grumpig's way. Magic Coat is also pretty useful, as it can deflect status moves such as Hypnosis and make the other poke snooze instead. All credit goes to O.Ownage from Smogon.



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Suicune @ Leftovers
252 hp/252 def/6 sAtk
Bold
~ Surf
~ Calm Mind
~ Ice Beam
~ HP Electric

This suicune is pretty standard, but defiantly gets the job well done against Gyarados, Vaporeon, other Suicune, and does a decent amout of damage against Skarmory. Ice Beam is there just if I face some dragons or anyone who thinks they're cool enough to use Gliscor. Calm Mind to boost thou Special Attack and Special Defence, and Surf for some good STAB against Heatran. Although this means that Zapdos may be able to wall this set, but with the chances of Stone Edge + Ice Beam, it doesn't seem likely for that to happen. Calm Mind Suicune is like a threat that no one ever talks about, it can still run through teams. This still walls stuff such as Scizor and Lucario, which is a huge plus.




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Flygon @ Choice Scarf
80 hp/252 atk/176 spe
Naughty
~ Earthquake
~ Outrage
~ Fire Blast
~ Stone Edge

A pretty nice revenge killer. STAB earthquake takes down Heatran, Lucario, etc. Fire Blast 2KOs Bronzong and Skarmory. Outrage is a great STAB attack that Flygon got from platinum, and Stone Edge is just giving me the great combo of EdgeQuake we all love and enjoy oh so very much. The EVs let me survive the most from Bullet Punch/Vacuum Wave/etc while still having top-notch speed. I needed another revenge killer/physical hard hitter due to the fact that reversal isn't all reliable, and this thing does that best while still leaving a dent in Skarmory.



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Hercules @ Leftovers
252 atk/252 spe/6 sDef
Adamant/Swarm/30 HP IV
~ Sub
~ Reversal
~ Megahorn
~ Stone Edge

Heracross was picked as a main core sweeper for this team, because the lack of Gliscor lately in this metagame can give Heracross some love. Grumpig is walled by things such as Blissey and Snorlax, so that can give Heracross a perfect opportunity to switch in and sub up and maybe even get a whole game sweep in. Leftovers is used here instead of Salac Berry due to things such as Sandstorm and Hail to actually get to a low level of health and stay there behind a sub and reversalling everything in sight. Substitute has always had a place in my heart after I've used AntiSubLeadChamp, I've swept so many foes using just one turn of prediction. Megahorn is for Cresselias that ruin the fun, but they also cannot use Reflect or Psychic on the same turn, making substitute even more favorable. Stone Edge does 49.22% - 57.81% to Zapdos, which can mean a critical hit is most likely a KO. 30 HP IVs make Heracross to about 1/4 of health but sitll not being able to be killed by things such as sandstorm, and with Leftovers recovery it stays at a good amount for reversal to be powerful. And to sum it up, Heracross is just one awesome pokemon.

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Heatran @ Leftovers
252 hp/16 sAtk/240 sDef
Modest
~ Sub
~ Will-o-Wisp
~ Overheat
~ Earth Power/HP Grass

Scarftrans are for noobs. Subbing on the switch makes a fine strategy to get a free sub. Overheat OKOs Gengar and I could use Earth Power usually for rival Heatran to take the Fire Blast boost, or HP Grass to help get swampert out of the picture.. Will-o-Wisp can also deminish things like Swampert and Gyarados if anything with Suicune goes wrong. I really love Subbing pokemon, for some odd reason, but I guess I can work well with it n_n. Overheat/Will-o-wisp can really take care of Skarmory, which somewhat walls a lot of my team.

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Smeargle @ Leftovers
252 hp/252 spe/6 atk
Jolly
~ Mean Look
~ Dragon Dance/Agility/Belly Drum
~ Baton Pass
~ Spore

This thing can help Heracross full function his sweep, Agility/Belly Drum/Dragon Dance is hard to choose, as If I trap something (like Blissey) then I can DD up and get a ****load of boost, however, Agility can just help with speed, whilst Belly Drum is just plain deadly..

Threat List:
1. Scizor - Flygon with Fire Blast, Heatran Overheat/Will-o-wisp

2. Heatran - Flygon with Earthquake, and Grumpig sponges most attacks

3. Salamence - Suicune with Ice Beam, Flygon with Outrage, Heracross with Stone Edge

4. Tyranitar - Flygon revenges with Earthquake, Heracross with Reversal

5. Zapdos - Suicune with Ice Beam, Flygon with Stone Edge, Heracross with Stone Edge, Heatran with Overheat

6. Blissey - Flygon & Heracross

7. Gyarados - Suicune HP Electric, Flygon + Hera with Stone Edge, Heatran Will-o-Wisp.

8. Lucario - Flygon revenges, Hera reversal, Heatran can will-o-wisp and/or Earth Power.

9. Infernape - Lead apes die from Grumpig, others Grumpig absorbs most attacks. Suicune does well on Nasty Plot/HP Ice or regular all out versions.

10. Gengar- Leads Grumpig deals with, Heatran can wall.

This team literally took about 5 hours to make, It was hard for my head.

please rate!
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[Dark Azelf]

So, how do you deal with Lucario and Scizor ?


83.18% - 98.13% <---Flygon takes this from a +2 LO Extremespeed from Luke so is not really realiable and the rest of your team is just gg.

Scizor is worse to you since it does more to Flygon.


scarfing that heatran would let you revenge kill both, or even something like zapdos >> smeargle who can also BP Agilities.

The reason reversal doesnt work to well is due to priority, weather and other stuff but meh, arguably a better thing would be passing agilities to an SD Heracross, since it relies on a more reliable strategy.



In addition Lucario does the whole reversal thing better being immune to SS and even then its questionable.

This thing can help Heracross full function his sweep, Agility/Belly Drum/Dragon Dance is hard to choose, as If I trap something (like Blissey) then I can DD up and get a **** load of boost, however, Agility can just help with speed, whilst Belly Drum is just plain deadly..

Please dont imply swearing since its against the forum rules, thanks.

 

[SkyPioneer]

Grumpig is a joke, because it's most probably going to get OHKO'd by Night Slash from the Weavile you so passionately despise. Suicide Azelf leads will also pose a problem, Stealth Rocking while you trick, then the best you can do is hope you get a crit with psychic while they blow up in your face.

For that Smeargle, I'd recommend anything but Belly Drum. That thing is weak enough without taking half it's HP away. So I'd go with Dragon Dance.

Theres probably more I could nitpick, but I'll leave that to the rest of the raters.