4th Gen How are these Starmie IV's?

[Storm-DC]

pffff... took me like 50 eggs before getting a modest (or even timid) one again.. and then it's

* HP IV: 6 [2 ~ 10] 8%
* Attack IV: 22 [18 ~ 26] 11%
* Defense IV: 25 [21 ~ 29] 11%
* Sp.Atk IV: 18 [14 ~ 22] 10%
* Sp.Def IV: 3 [0 ~ 6] 8%
* Speed IV: 23 [20 ~ 27] 12%

... i'll put a different staryu with ditto, perhaps it'll get better like that

 

[Paranoia]

pffff... took me like 50 eggs before getting a modest (or even timid) one again.. and then it's

* HP IV: 6 [2 ~ 10] 8%
* Attack IV: 22 [18 ~ 26] 11%
* Defense IV: 25 [21 ~ 29] 11%
* Sp.Atk IV: 18 [14 ~ 22] 10%
* Sp.Def IV: 3 [0 ~ 6] 8%
* Speed IV: 23 [20 ~ 27] 12%

... i'll put a different staryu with ditto, perhaps it'll get better like that

You want a modest and timid staryu definitely right, so have you heard of the Everstone trick?

Probably not, so I'll fill you in, what you need to do is get 25 dittos each with a different nature, so you'll have all natures in your box (Name the ditto's according to their nature! ie; I found a serious ditto, I call it serious)

Then when breeding use the ditto with the correct nature that you want with the pokemon, of course make the ditto hold the everstone, this boosts a 50% of getting the nature ditto has on to the baby, so instead of hatching tons of eggs for one nature, theoretically you only need to hatch 2. This also works with pokemon besides ditto, what it does is it has a 50% chance of passing the Females nature, remember that!

It's hard work, But well worth it.

 

[Storm-DC]

hm.. nice trick, didnt know that yet (ditto can reproduce with a second ditto?)..

anyway! i just got this modest staryu:

* HP IV: 28 [25 ~ 31] 15%
* Attack IV: 6 [3 ~ 10] 9%
* Defense IV: 17 [14 ~ 21] 12%
* Sp.Atk IV: 26 [22 ~ 30] 11%
* Sp.Def IV: 10 [6 ~ 14] 9%
* Speed IV: 16 [12 ~ 20] 10%

Now, HP and SP ATK are quite okay! And well.. Speed is just average, but by default Starmie is already really fast, so this might be the one. What do you think?

 

[Paranoia]

hm.. nice trick, didnt know that yet (ditto can reproduce with a second ditto?)..

anyway! i just got this modest staryu:

* HP IV: 28 [25 ~ 31] 15%
* Attack IV: 6 [3 ~ 10] 9%
* Defense IV: 17 [14 ~ 21] 12%
* Sp.Atk IV: 26 [22 ~ 30] 11%
* Sp.Def IV: 10 [6 ~ 14] 9%
* Speed IV: 16 [12 ~ 20] 10%

Now, HP and SP ATK are quite okay! And well.. Speed is just average, but by default Starmie is already really fast, so this might be the one. What do you think?

Just one thing, what do you mean by the 15%, 9%...?

 

[Storm-DC]

its from the calculator on legendarypokemon, it's the adjustment rate

 

[Richard Lynch]

hm.. nice trick, didnt know that yet (ditto can reproduce with a second ditto?)..

anyway! i just got this modest staryu:

* HP IV: 28 [25 ~ 31] 15%
* Attack IV: 6 [3 ~ 10] 9%
* Defense IV: 17 [14 ~ 21] 12%
* Sp.Atk IV: 26 [22 ~ 30] 11%
* Sp.Def IV: 10 [6 ~ 14] 9%
* Speed IV: 16 [12 ~ 20] 10%

Now, HP and SP ATK are quite okay! And well.. Speed is just average, but by default Starmie is already really fast, so this might be the one. What do you think?

That looks good to me. I'd rather see Defense and Special Defense a bit higher, but looks like you got the three key elements of a Starmie in high range! Good job. This one's a keeper. Just don't forget to max out Special Attack and Speed with EVs, and put the rest into HP.

And to be honest, I was never fond of this kind of calculator. I've been using MetalKid's since Shane showed me:

https://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/IV.aspx

That is by far the most accurate one, and can usually give you exact IVs around level 20. AND it can be downloaded for offline use! Come on, that's pretty friggin' cool.

 

[Storm-DC]

i'll look into it.. anyway, thanks for all the help guys :), i'm going with this one then. starmie isn't used that much is it?

 

[Richard Lynch]

starmie isn't used that much is it?

Actually, Starmie is an OU. High tier Pokemon for sure, and one of the best Special Sweepers you can find. Only Special Sweeper I hold in higher regard is Alakazam, and most wouldn't agree with me there. I mean, unless Alakazam has an Electric move, Starmie would easily take him down.

To make a long story short, Starmie is just amazing and I've read that many experienced battlers will, when formulating a team, take into account "Can this team take on Starmie?", and alter the team according to that question.

 

[Storm-DC]

well.. i only battled a real life trainer once in france with gold, so if i can start beating up some n00bs for a start it'll be grand. actually i used alakazam allot, but somehow with the changes in r/s and d/p it's not that great anymore. it rocked in r/b!

 

[ihaveaquestion]

and.... i think that those iv's totally suck... no offence... catch another... more better one... cause ppl might call you stupid or sumthin if u raise it 2 lvl 100

 

[Richard Lynch]

well.. i only battled a real life trainer once in france with gold, so if i can start beating up some n00bs for a start it'll be grand. actually i used alakazam allot, but somehow with the changes in r/s and d/p it's not that great anymore. it rocked in r/b!

Once you get your full team up and at high levels, let me know, and you can face my in-game team, which normally sucks compared to my normal team (the one on my trainer card below). By the time I beat the Elite 4 and all that jazz, it will probably be around 55 - 60, so aim for those levels!

PS: My in-game team consists of:

Drifblim
Rampardos
Weavile
Bronzong
Alakazam
Empoleon

 

[Paranoia]

and.... i think that those iv's totally suck... no offence... catch another... more better one... cause ppl might call you stupid or sumthin if u raise it 2 lvl 100

Do you know what IVs are?!

 

[Storm-DC]

and.... i think that those iv's totally suck... no offence... catch another... more better one... cause ppl might call you stupid or sumthin if u raise it 2 lvl 100

which do you mean? the ones in the first post of this thread, or the ones i said i'll go with?

 

[Forci Stikane]

which do you mean? the ones in the first post of this thread, or the ones i said i'll go with?

Do yourself a favor: ignore him. Just go with that Starmie the way you planned to.

 

[Storm-DC]

oeh.. as soon it said 510 on my piece of paper i counted the EVs on, i got the effort ribbon.. sometimes math is amazing, it's just 'true' and 'right'.. anyway! evolved it; so it's done! just the moves.. next one: scizor!

 

[ihaveaquestion]

... i meant the ones that were first posted.... and don't igrone me.... cause i luv u....

 

[Storm-DC]

i'm more or less a politician so i've learned not to ignore anyone, especially people who are not connected to mainstream social groups ;).. anyway. what did you think about the one i used then?

 

[ihaveaquestion]

that one is better than the first one... but it could use a little more speed... luv yaz

 

[Richard Lynch]

oeh.. as soon it said 510 on my piece of paper i counted the EVs on, i got the effort ribbon.. sometimes math is amazing, it's just 'true' and 'right'.. anyway! evolved it; so it's done! just the moves.. next one: scizor!

Scizor is actually a pretty interesting Pokemon. Besides a 4x weakness to Fire, it really has no bad weaknesses, and makes a fantastic Baton Passer (not sure if they kept that move in D/P) along with it's typing, good defense, and surprisingly good HP. Just make sure he's Impish, and max out HP and Special Defense, with any remaining in Defense when it comes to EVs.

 

[Storm-DC]

Scizor is actually a pretty interesting Pokemon. Besides a 4x weakness to Fire, it really has no bad weaknesses, and makes a fantastic Baton Passer (not sure if they kept that move in D/P) along with it's typing, good defense, and surprisingly good HP. Just make sure he's Impish, and max out HP and Special Defense, with any remaining in Defense when it comes to EVs.

ok.. that's completely something else than i was thinking about :p.. i thought an adamant scizor with EVs on attack and HP and perhaps some speed (to be atleast faster than average fast pokemon)..