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    In my Pokemon Leaf Green, I can't beat the Elite Four. My current Party is (I'm trying to get them all the level 50 right now)

    Charizard: Level 50
    Moves:
    Blast Burn
    Cut
    Flamethrower
    Fire Blast

    Vaporeon: Level 50
    Moves:
    Acid Armour
    Surf
    Attract
    Aurora Beam

    Snorlax: Level 42
    Moves:
    Body Slam
    Psychic
    Rest
    Strength

    Pidgeot: Level 43
    Moves:
    Wing Attack
    Aerial Ace
    Fly
    Double Edge

    Kadabra: Level 43
    Moves:
    Recover
    Psychic
    Flash
    Psybeam

    Raichu: Level 45
    Thunderbolt
    Slam
    Rock Smash
    Thunder

    Mostly now due to laziness I have been using my Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres in place of Kadabra, Pidgeot and Raichu but they aint much good either, all three being levels 51 and 50 but it just about useless.
    Any tips and stuff? I really wanna thrash these guys so I can do the remaining Sevii Islands and stuff. :D
     
    In my Pokemon Leaf Green, I can't beat the Elite Four. My current Party is (I'm trying to get them all the level 50 right now)

    Charizard: Level 50
    Moves:
    Blast Burn Aerial Ace
    Cut Earthquake
    Flamethrower Swords Dance
    Fire Blast

    Rule number 1: all recharge moves suck, especially the elemental H-Beams. Also, Charizard's strongest suit is physical attacks, so go with that. Aerial Ace for STAB and Earthquake for the power with Swords Dance to boost them further and Fire Blast to exploit 'Blaze' and STAB and help against physical walls.


    Vaporeon: Level 50
    Moves:
    Acid Armor
    Surf
    Attract Baton Pass/Rest
    Aurora Beam Ice Beam

    Acid armor is not much fun if you don't pass it on, although this one might benefit more from Rest because it lacks HP recovery due to the lack of Wish. Also, Ice Beam > Aurora Beam since it's so much stronger.

    Snorlax: Level 42
    Moves:
    Body Slam/Double-Edge
    Psychic Earthquake/Shadow Ball
    Rest
    Strength Sleep Talk

    No...just no. Never, EVER put a psychic attack on a non-psychic pokémon (Except possibly ingame Shiftry), it's a waste of space, especially on Snorlax, and never use a HM move that isn't called Surf (The others suck). Earthquake or Shadow Ball to complement the normal move (You could try Double-Edge for more power) and Sleep Talk to keep it fighting even during Rest. Curse is also an option for that slot, but since it requires breeding I won't bother.

    Pidgeot: Level 43
    Moves:
    Wing Attack Steel Wing
    Aerial Ace
    Fly Quick Attack
    Double Edge

    If it doesn't have a Choice Band give it one now. Also, there's no point in stocking up multiple moves of the same type. Quick Attack for finishing blows against faster opponents and Steel Wing to help against troublesome Rock types. I really wouldn't recommend keeping this one, though, as there are far better flying types (Like Fearow and Dodrio) out there.

    Kadabra: Level 43
    Moves:
    RecoverFire Punch/Ice Punch
    Psychic
    Flash Fire Punch/Ice Punch
    Psybeam Calm Mind

    Now what did I say about doubling up on moves and using HM moves that aren't called Surf? Recover is kind of lol on Kadabra since it has such a terribly weak defense, but it can work for half-arsed spec. walling with Calm Mind. Anyways, you'll need at least one of the elemental punches in order to make Kadabra any good, so if you don't have trading capability you'll have to breed them in from a Hitmonchan (Which learns them all by level up) and start over.

    Raichu: Level 45
    Thunderbolt
    Slam Thunder Wave
    Rock Smash Iron Tail/Focus Punch
    Thunder Substitute

    Meh, Raichu...:\ It really doesn't take hits that well, so T-Wave and Substitute for protection, with a hard-hitting physical move (Focus Punch and Iron Tail are the best you get, I'm afraid) to give it at least a vague fighting chance against ground types. Most things will still trash it, though, so I'd suggest going for a cooler pokémon like Starmie. In case you're wondering about the moveset, that one would be:

    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam/Reflect
    Recover

    Nice and efficient, with plenty of speed and Sp.Attack which should allow it to sweep through Bruno and Lance quite efficiently.



    Mostly now due to laziness I have been using my Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres in place of Kadabra, Pidgeot and Raichu but they aint much good either, all three being levels 51 and 50 but it just about useless.
    Any tips and stuff? I really wanna thrash these guys so I can do the remaining Sevii Islands and stuff. :D

    And that's about it. As far as advise goes, follow those movesets, level up a bit and stock up on healing items before you go. The e4s are really rather pathetically easy to beat when you know what you're doing. x3
     
    Thanks well, I'll have to start training a Staryu up good and try and find a way to teach it most of those moves before evolving it.
    As for the moves my other Pokemon should have, well I dunno how I'm gonna be able to get the TMs etc for them.

    Also since you seem to know how a Pokemon should work with it's attacking moves what do you think of my Emerald Pokemon Party?:

    Sceptile: Level 59
    Moves:
    Leaf Blade
    Slam
    Detect
    Solar Beam

    Flygon: Level 57
    Moves:
    Fly
    Earthquake
    Dig
    Rocksmash
    (I really wanna get Dragonbreath back and replace something good in place of Rock Smash)

    Gyarados: Level 55
    Moves:
    Waterfall
    Surf
    Dive
    Strength
    (Yeah, pretty dissapointing but he works!)

    Donphan: Level 40 (In training to level 50)
    Moves:
    Rollout
    Defence Curl
    Flail
    Take Down

    Aipom: Level 41 (I just think he's cool)
    Moves:
    Swift
    Iron Tail
    Tickle
    Fury Swipes

    Volbeat: Level 40
    Moves:
    Signal Beam
    Double Edge
    Protect
    Tail Glow

    I'm pretty proud of my Volbeat he managed to defeat a level 58 Alakazam in two turns and wipe out one of the Elite Fours Glalie.
     
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    Thanks well, I'll have to start training a Staryu up good and try and find a way to teach it most of those moves before evolving it.
    As for the moves my other Pokemon should have, well I dunno how I'm gonna be able to get the TMs etc for them.

    Also since you seem to know how a Pokemon should work with it's attacking moves what do you think of my Emerald Pokemon Party?:

    Sceptile: Level 59
    Moves:
    Leaf Blade
    Thunderpunch
    Substitute
    Dragon Claw

    Flygon: Level 57
    Moves:
    Aerial Ace
    Earthquake
    Dragonbreath
    Rockslide


    Gyarados: Level 55
    Moves:
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake

    Donphan: Level 40 (In training to level 50)
    Moves:
    Rollout
    Defence Curl
    Flail
    Take Down

    ?

    Aipom: Level 41 (I just think he's cool)
    Moves:
    Swift
    Iron Tail
    Tickle
    Fury Swipes

    Volbeat: Level 40
    Moves:
    Signal Beam
    Double Edge
    Protect
    Tail Glow

    I'm pretty proud of my Volbeat he managed to defeat a level 58 Alakazam in two turns and wipe out one of the Elite Fours Glalie.

    Fixes = Bold Also:

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    Moves:
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Haze
    -Baton Pass / Rest
     
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