I want Misty Back!

[weedle_mchairybug]

I'm not hatin' on Kasumi fans. Don't get me wrong. I'm just being the blunt and honest person I am. And you guys just need to accept that Kasumi is long gone from the main cast.

Meh, the only time I'll EVER accept that Misty is permanently gone from the main cast is if they cancel the Anime without her returning to the Main Cast.

Length of time off the main cast? Don't bother. Lola spent almost a DECADE of the main series of being forgotten since her sole mention in "Showdown in Pewter City", not even a recurring character, but an unseen one. However, on the 9th season, exactly 436 episodes later, she ended up not only appearing, but from that day out, being promoted to a character class belonging to the likes of Professor Oak, Delia, Johanna, and Caroline/Norman (as evidenced by the 11th movie credits where they included her). If they could try and make Lola a recurring main character DESPITE not even being seen or mentioned since her first mention almost a decade prior, they can just as easily bring back Misty onto the main cast.

Besides, they already brought back Brock thanks to the fanbase. If they listened to us in regards to him, they can certainly listen to us in regards to her.

And the whole Masamitsu Hidaka thing, I already explained countless times how we should NOT try and believe him in regards to that, unless you've forgotten. I mean, first off, he's no longer the director of the show (the phrase "Director of the anime up until the 9th season" pretty much confirms that he's no longer the director.), and besides which, he's already made countless lies about future events/grave errors to even be taken seriously in regards to Future Events (For the lies, he and his writing team claimed to 4Kids that Ash's father was going to appear in Master Quest, but that never happened. As for grave errors, his complete and utterly asinine lack-of-knowledge of Platinum's development evidences this).

:x And you have to understand that she has no reason to come back. The writers introduced the girls from the games, and made them do contests ..to have a co-star, other than Satoshi doing something. Kasumi doesn't do contests or anything. She's just the water trainer.

Her goal was oriented to battling (Hence her being a "water trainer", and wanting become the worlds greatest water pokemon master), and she got far more focus than Brock and Tracey anyways, so they already had their co-star, anyways.

I like Kasumi. Trust me on this. I know how many people are wanting Kasumi back. And she will come back, for a small appearance. But to actually let yourself believe that she's going to return for good ..that's just hurting you more when it doesn't happen. :x

People have said the exact same thing about my founding fathers' desire to try and lead our country to independence, yet we still tried to do that, and ultimately we succeeded. Besides, thanks to us (the fanbase, I mean), Brock DID return for good even when it seemed like he would leave permanently.), If we could bring HIM back permanently, we can certainly bring her back permanently.

Besides, I've already got a plan in the works where the writers certainly can't refuse our goal of bringing her back without their show/franchise being hurt.

And BTW, if Misty DOESN'T return, there will be an increase in the Anorexia/Bulimia epidemic, as well as girls trying to emulate starlet behavior and believing that they should end up becoming utterly dimwitted bimboes as society and the media seems to convince them to do. Misty's one of our few chances at even trying to put a stop to it.

There weren't 4. Max was a half pint good for nothing who annoyed the arse off the holy black belts.

Regardless, he had a lot of screentime with his sister, Ash, and Brock, he had his fair share of episode focuses, and all that, and was officially considered a main character, so there were four.

Also we are not being mean. If you ever find yourself getting shot in the head, having your house sabotaged or being called ugly by another anti-Misty fan then you can call us mean. We are only stating the facts that support she won't come back.

This is coming from the same guy who said he'd "Crap out bricks" if Misty were to return, was vocal about his hate for Misty, and even tries to bash Misty fans on occasion even if we didn't even insult him. And I've also stated facts that support her coming back, as well as a plan.

 

[ReyRey-Pyon]

wait what?

Are you seriously trying to connect the dots and say no misty = dying anorexic girls? Seriously?
I'm not sure whether to LOL or to facepalm
Dude.
Seriously.

I think your taking the misty thing too far
I don think little girls wanting to be just like dawn when they grow up will make them anorexic
Or believing the only way to be cool is to be super model gorgeous and stupid

There are other strong women in the media and in the real world
Misty isn't the only one

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

wait what?

Are you seriously trying to connect the dots and say no misty = dying anorexic girls? Seriously?
I'm not sure whether to LOL or to facepalm
Dude.
Seriously.

Not necessarily dying anorexic girls existing, but the death toll getting worse.

And anyways, it's not just that, but also the increase in bad messages to girls all over. In case you haven't noticed, or decided to ignore, there are countless controversies about how girls are depicted.

I think your taking the misty thing too far
I don think little girls wanting to be just like dawn when they grow up will make them anorexic
Or believing the only way to be cool is to be super model gorgeous and stupid

If you honestly think that little girls don't believe that the only way to be cool is to be supermodel gorgeous and/or stupid, or that they won't grow up to be Anorexic why don't you try and find a Middle/High School health teacher who also thinks this as well?

I had learned from several coaches during my Health Classes in Peachtree Charter Middle School that a major cause of the Bulimia/Anorexia outbreaks is because of the supermodel stuff and the media. Not only did they just tell us this, they also showed us a video called "Secret Diary of a Bulimic", and even went as far as to send us up to the Middle School's media center for a little presentation by some of the teachers and PTA members where they STATED that was a major cause.

Aside from that, one of my first "Math in the News" articles for my Algebra II class in my Junior year dealt with a hollywood actress having recently written and published a book called "Math Doesn't Suck". In that article, she stated that she wrote the book because, other than girls needing an explaination that would help them more with math than the typical regiment, girls are thinking that, because of certain Hollywood starlets like Lindsay Lohan, or Paris Hilton, they think that they, due to their being girls, HAVE to be completely stupid, airheaded, party a lot, and get into car crashes. The way she stated this reason implies that the vast majority of girls today are suffering because of this.

And don't get me started on the whole "Disney Princess" and "Teen Talk Barbie"/Barbie controversies, either.

There are other strong women in the media and in the real world
Misty isn't the only one

Yes there are other strong women, but the problem is that because of these strong women failing to make a difference in the portrayal of females (Otherwise, Playboy, Penthouse, Pornography as a whole, Modeling, Strip Clubs, trophy wives, and other things would cease to exist for all eternity.), nothing seemed to change, or if things did change, it was only for the worse, so trying to bring Misty back seems to be our only option left.

Plus, some of the other strong women in the media, like Ariel, for instance, have been completely degenerated to being the exact opposite of what they used to be (Like her portrayal in the Disney Princess Franchise being completely against what she stood for in the original TLM.).

I even made youtube videos EXPLAINING why this is bad, and why Misty returning would at least make it a step closer to stopping it.

 

[Spinor]

I'm not sure whether to LOL or to facepalm
Dude.
Seriously.

(You are always supposed to facepalm when considering a facepalm)

This is coming from the same guy who said he'd "Crap out bricks" if Misty were to return, was vocal about his hate for Misty, and even tries to bash Misty fans on occasion even if we didn't even insult him. And I've also stated facts that support her coming back, as well as a plan.

Yes, It is coming from a man who said he'd "Crap out bricks" if Misty were to return, was vocal about his hate for Misty, and once tried to bash Misty fans but retired due to boredom. Is there a problem with that?

Also, I'd like to see the evidence that points to Misty's return. Reel 'em in.

 

[ReyRey-Pyon]

Well for one

If you truely care for the health and well being of the children of the world
I suggest you organize events, make your voice heard, instead of whinig on a pokemon forum and creating pokemon videos for YouTube ok why you believe misty should co e back
Let real people know what your about

Because if a cartoon is your only hope
I feel sorry for you

Seriously though it sounds more like a lame excuse to try to satisfy your nostalgia goggles
To me at least.

If you want to solve the problems of females getting stupid and dangerous ideas in their head

You don't try to get a cartoon character into the main cast of a series
Second

How did tthis turn into a "misty Is serious business" type conversation anyways?

And third

@advancek9
Orly?

/facefoot/wait wat?

 

[Spinor]

Because if a cartoon is your only hope

I feel sorry for you
Seriously it sounds more like a lame excuse to try to satisfy your nostalgia goggles

I though about saying something similar but I was afraid of getting flamed or deeply scarring somebody.

Orly?

yarlly

 

[BUG♥CATCHER★BREEZE]

And BTW, if Misty DOESN'T return, there will be an increase in the Anorexia/Bulimia epidemic, as well as girls trying to emulate starlet behavior and believing that they should end up becoming utterly dimwitted bimboes as society and the media seems to convince them to do. Misty's one of our few chances at even trying to put a stop to it.

*snort* It's not as is Misty weighed 20 stone and was some sort of positive role model for curvy women or something is like that. She's just as skinny as the 'the other two'! Have you all forgotten that Misty wore teeny little suspenders, hot pants and
I don't even see how she is an empowered woman at all. So she hangs around with two boys and is very opinionated.

*et voilá* Thousands of teenage girls lives are saved. Anorexia is a mental condition, and isn't cured by watching Pokémon with Misty.

To prove this, I am going to tell a true story. All, I have a friend who was once a huge Pokémon fan. She loved Misty (she was a red head) and religiously watched the show.
Now, she has dyed her hair black, is constantly worried about her weight (terrified of thunder thighs. Don't ask.), has a boyfriend I don't approve of, and failed quite of her exams, and dropped to a lower level.

I know her life has hardly gone of the rails but May/Dawn didn't ruin her life terribly.

It's only Pokémon anyway, it only effects the lives of super-fans :) So, only super fans are going to 'die' due to servere Misty loss.

Anyway, its silly to link Misty as some sort of holy grail (99.9% sure its nostaliga). Yes, I'll admit she was an good character, but the plot has long moved on. In a way, her role has stopped existing - they're no need for two people to go around battling and collecting badges. Not to mention her aim - 'Water Pokémon Master' was pretty vague. I mean, she doesn't even collect Plot Tokens of any variety.

All in all, I maybe my opinion on Misty isn't that important - I haven't watched an episode with her for at least four years (maybe more...!), so I think, to have any sort of real opinion on the 'influence' of the red-head, needs to watch Kanto without nostagia googles.

 

[Spinor]

In support of Breeze. Besides, the people that go all emo and stuff on Misty have a problem, a big one. And Misty is not the major cause of anorexic retards. You only hear about Misty because that is your focus, not other kiddy shows which admittingly are just sad when someone goes bizerk over a disappearance.

 

[aipom man]

why is everybody arguing on this thread why this thread is for people who want misty back like weedle and me so if you dont agree seeeya

 

[Spinor]

why is everybody arguing on this thread why this thread is for people who want misty back like weedle and me so if you dont agree seeeya

Just a quick note. It is not of good manner to sassily state where we can or cannot post. It is human nature to debate a point into fact. And the Misty fans are not proving with direct evidence on if she even has a chance to come back.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Well for one

If you truely care for the health and well being of the children of the world
I suggest you organize events, make your voice heard, instead of whinig on a pokemon forum and creating pokemon videos for YouTube ok why you believe misty should co e back
Let real people know what your about

Because if a cartoon is your only hope
I feel sorry for you

I do truly care for the health and well being of the children of the world, and for the record, I DID make my voice heard through youtube (It's the only place aside from an international news network) where this word CAN be spread across on a grand scale, AND I did petitions to try and bring back Misty.

However, Misty's basically the only chance we've got left. Maybe you don't know this, but we have had countless failures in regards to trying to change Feminism for the better (or in the case of the seventies, succeeding in getting Women back to where they were originally discriminated against, which is the same as a failure.)

Seriously though it sounds more like a lame excuse to try to satisfy your nostalgia goggles
To me at least.

If you want to solve the problems of females getting stupid and dangerous ideas in their head

You don't try to get a cartoon character into the main cast of a series

Look, It's the best we've got, seeing how the majority of the kids have constantly been exposed to the several media outlets depicting these things. I mean, the only other way we can try and destroy these kind of things is to basically burn down TV production factories, tear down studioes (both animation studioes and actual TV studioes), assassinate any pornographic directors, and all those kinds of crimes. I see how that has it's flaws, since that would result in countless lives and property damage being lost (something that would DEFINITELY make things worse), so I'm trying to avoid that option.

Activist protests don't work either. I mean, I can't even begin to list all of the feminist controversies that we have had that were similar to activism, and we have had no success whatsoever. Barbie's still running around, We still have the Porn industry, we still have the modeling fashion magazines, and the Disney Princess franchise still exists to basically corrupt females into a similar fate. If Activist protests truly worked, then all of the above listings would have ceased to exist.

Besides which, I need something that would succeed on a grand, global scale. The various Health Classes and public speaking simply won't work, seeing how we still have this problem regardless of whether I or anyone else is a gifted speaker/teacher. If trying to teach kids the dangers without some sort of figurehead truly would work, we wouldn't even HAVE an Anorexia/Bulimia epidemic in the first place. Seeing how public speaking/Health classes won't work, and how flat out destruction is also a big no-no, Misty's pretty much the only option we have left.

*snort* It's not as is Misty weighed 20 stone and was some sort of positive role model for curvy women or something is like that. She's just as skinny as the 'the other two'! Have you all forgotten that Misty wore teeny little suspenders,

The Suspenders weren't "Teeny", and even if they were, they at least kept her pants up.

hot pants and
I don't even see how she is an empowered woman at all. So she hangs around with two boys and is very opinionated.

They weren't "Hot Pants" they were just shorts. Gym Shorts, not to mention. And anyways, they at least didn't expose portions of her butt (Unlike, oh, say, her EToP counterpart.).

And the fact that she can fight for what she believes in, doesn't submit to a guy just for norms sake, modest about her appearance (IE, not flaunting her body) and is intelligent IS what makes her an empowering figure. You don't see that with May, Dawn, the BatB Triplets, the Fiorello Fangirls, the LH girls, the Anime portrayal of Sonsaku Hakufu, or any of that.

*et voilá* Thousands of teenage girls lives are saved. Anorexia is a mental condition, and isn't cured by watching Pokémon with Misty.

One of the primary causes of Anorexia IS the modeling industry/the media. Heck, ask your local Health Teacher if you don't believe me, since THAT'S where I learned that tidbit of info. I mean, yeah, it also entails the brain processing the mirror in an erroneous fashion, but the media is still a major influence nonetheless (Heck, the video "Secret diary of a Bulimic" stated that being a fashion model, as well as how fashion models looked thin and beautiful, was a cataclyst in her becoming a bulimic.)

Anyway, its silly to link Misty as some sort of holy grail (99.9% sure its nostaliga). Yes, I'll admit she was an good character, but the plot has long moved on. In a way, her role has stopped existing - they're no need for two people to go around battling and collecting badges. Not to mention her aim - 'Water Pokémon Master' was pretty vague. I mean, she doesn't even collect Plot Tokens of any variety.

Ash's little "Pokemon Master" aim was also pretty vague. In fact, arguably, it's even more vague than the Water Pokemon Master aim. I mean, at least with Misty, the goal was to master at Water Types, and it's implied that they are of elite 4 status. Ash's goal of being a Pokemon Master is completely vague. They don't specify any detail on how to become a Master, and various members of the Elite 4, and even champions, were never really referred to as "Pokemon Masters", which implies that they aren't that. Ash also has won a league, anyways, yet for some reason, he's not a pokemon master. You'd think they'd at least explain the basics of what entails a Pokemon Master without contradictions, yet they aren't.

All in all, I maybe my opinion on Misty isn't that important - I haven't watched an episode with her for at least four years (maybe more...!), so I think, to have any sort of real opinion on the 'influence' of the red-head, needs to watch Kanto without nostagia googles.

I've watched Kanto last summer, and it's still fresh in my mind, so it's definitely not nostalgia. And for goodness sakes, There's no such thing as "Nostalgia Goggles".

In support of Breeze. Besides, the people that go all emo and stuff on Misty have a problem, a big one. And Misty is not the major cause of anorexic retards. You only hear about Misty because that is your focus, not other kiddy shows which admittingly are just sad when someone goes bizerk over a disappearance.

Well, other than the fact that I'm autistic (and highly functioning, at that), I don't have a problem. And I heard far more about anorexic stuff than the issues about Misty. Heck, I only got into the movement near the beginning of my Sophmore year, and I had learned a LOT about Anorexia/Bulimia in the 6th, 7th, and 8th grades. Also, I have found controversies about Barbie, one of which even relates directly to the Anorexia Bulimia Problem. I've also learned how females squealing and acting like ninnys is a BAD thing since I was nine, possibly ten, and I had learned about how the portrayal of the girls of Love Hina was terrible beyond belief during the spring break of seventh grade. I learned from Gaston's beliefs that those beliefs, as well as his actions, are horrible, so I try to make myself almost the exact opposite of him (In fact, the only similarity we have is that we're both straight.). So don't even DARE to assume I have a problem or I don't even know what I'm talking about.

If you still doubt this, fine, be that way, but I'm not just going to sit here while people die. I want to put an end to it for good.

 

[Spinor]

If you still doubt this, fine, be that way, but I'm not just going to sit here while people die. I want to put an end to it for good.

Don't worry, I believe you'll do good for the world sitting on your computer all day recording yourself and typing about how a 2-dimensional drawing should come back on air.

 

[ReyRey-Pyon]

youtube?

misty isnt our only "hope",
go outside, do something it the outside world interract with human beings, inform other human beings

contrary to pupular belief not everyone likes pokemon,

anorexia may be cause by the media
but Misty isnt the cure,
im not sure where the heck your getting the logic that, misty = a healthy world

btw
if young girls are watching porn.../facepalm

Nostalgia goggles:
Someone's tunnel vision when it comes to objects from their past, such as cartoons, video games, even books.

 

[Ikazuchi]

I don't even see why all that ^ has to do with discussion of her coming back. ^^;
I think it would be nice for a few episodes, maybe 1 more arc or so.

 

[Superspaztastic13]

I think by the end of the series Misty and ash should finally admit they are a couple and he has been sending her love letters!

 

[Trap-Eds]

*stares at above argument*
Wow. Just, wow.

I'm just gonna say that although I like Misty, I'm not dying longing for her to come back. What would she do in Sinnoh? I could understand her coming back if the anime makes another Johto series for the HG/SS remakes, but what would she seriously do in Sinnoh? :/

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Don't worry, I believe you'll do good for the world sitting on your computer all day recording yourself and typing about how a 2-dimensional drawing should come back on air.

Actually, I AM doing something other than typing up posts. I am boycotting the Pokemon Franchise, AND I also restarted a petition. I'm also attempting to maintain contact with my friends while they are at college so that we might try and see how many people in the US, at least, if not the entire world will help us in our quest.

youtube?

Fine, if you can name another place to globally broadcast this message that's both legal and easy to access, be my guest.

misty isnt our only "hope",
go outside, do something it the outside world interract with human beings, inform other human beings

I've done that at school and at the neighborhood by doing petitions, the videos, and projects for school. How am I NOT doing those things?!

contrary to pupular belief not everyone likes pokemon,

And I know that not everyone likes pokemon. It's common logic that not everyone likes anything.

anorexia may be cause by the media
but Misty isnt the cure,
im not sure where the heck your getting the logic that, misty = a healthy world

Misty = the beginning steps to a more healthy world is more accurate.

I mean, even I know that that won't end it, but it's at least a start.

If we can't bring her back, then who is going to stop the madness of what's happening to females? I mean, my Health Teachers, or heck, every single Teacher within this world is failing to even give food for thought to a significant number of the population about the dangers of it. Our world leaders aren't doing a thing about it, the FCC isn't doing a thing about it (in fact, I'd argue that they are actually promoting it.). I already explained how just flat out destroying the media would only make things worse, so that option's out. Parents are failing to stop this madness as well, seeing how they are the main reason why controversies such as the Barbie controversies, the Disney Princess controversies, and other things are even existing, and for good reasons. Our current Feminist movement has failed to stop sexism (and heck, so did the one from the seventies, and in fact, we got the exact OPPOSITE of what should have come about). If you think about it, Misty's our last chance.

btw
if young girls are watching porn.../facepalm

Seeing how the internet gives easy access to porn that even a three year old has the risk, that may be what's happening.

Nostalgia goggles:
Someone's tunnel vision when it comes to objects from their past, such as cartoons, video games, even books.

If I had truly had nostalgia, then I would NOT have rewatched the first season fairly recently.

I'm just gonna say that although I like Misty, I'm not dying longing for her to come back. What would she do in Sinnoh? I could understand her coming back if the anime makes another Johto series for the HG/SS remakes, but what would she seriously do in Sinnoh? :/

Simple, she'll do Water Competitions, as well as other events that might catch her fancy. I mean, Theoretically, Dawn didn't even have a place in Sinnoh, since the only REAL Pokemon Contest in the games was in Hearthome, and yet they decided to make several "Filler" contests just to make her seem useful. I mean, if the Anime can basically "Create" contest halls so Dawn can have a use, they can certainly do the same with Misty. Besides, Ash technically never had a use in Sinnoh either (He already defeated the Battle Frontier and Brandon, which its members were rumored to be stronger than even a League Champion, which would theoretically make him a Pokemon Master, thus already accomplishing his goal.), yet they still kept him around, even making his Pikachu very weak.

 

[Spinor]

Actually, I AM doing something other than typing up posts. I am boycotting the Pokemon Franchise, AND I also restarted a petition. I'm also attempting to maintain contact with my friends while they are at college so that we might try and see how many people in the US, at least, if not the entire world will help us in our quest.

You are BOYCOTTING a freaking company that is aimed at airing drawings at little children for money just because a drawing disappeared from the broadcast? And don't tell me you are doing this for the girls because those girls that go bad aren't even worth further understanding the concept of drawings on a pile of wires and pixels are not worth killing yourself for. Boycotting the Pokemon franchise because of a storyline reason (do not excuse my french) is the most completely preposterous half-witted ignorance I have ever seen and if you can't accept that you are being driven very wrong by a bunch of pixels on a picture box then be it you go to this aberration with complete irrationality.

 

[Ash~The Purifying Prince~]

O___O -Simply stares- Ok...what has any of that got to do with Misty coming back? I thought this was a thread for people who could talk about wanting her to come back and what could possibly happen if she did. Anyways as I said one before here, it would be good if Misty came back; I know it won't ever be as a main again; unless in some distant time the creators decide to do that, but I'll be happy if I get to see her; even if its just for a few episodes.

 

[Nina]

@w@ I know you just make up anything to say that you are right, but man, even that's a little bit too far in failed logic land.


I don't want Misty back, nor do I think the show needs her. Why was Misty fishing that day in the first episode? Why why she there?
Not because she was waiting for someone to come along to follow around for the next few years.
Because she dreamed of being a great water pokemon trainer.
And that's what she's doing now as a gym leader. Trying to pull her back on the show permanently for nostalgia/pokeshipping reasons is destroying what little she has left as an actual interesting character (her dream), and makes her nothing but "the mandatory girl" or "main boy's love interest".

If you miss her so much, go watch the old episodes. :| Let the new show go on, I rather like it with girls who actually do stuff.