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If you could change the anime...

I know I'm asking for the impossible, but I would like to see Team Rocket Trio succeed for a change, and actually give something to the boss. The only time I've seen this was when they gave Giovanni Misty's Togepi, but he quickly dismissed it (bad move on his part, too).

The only other thing Team Rocket have ever been successful with is selling badges during the Johto League Tournament. With Delibird around, at least some of there dues were payed off, if not all.

Still, I want to see more successes in Team Rocket's part. They seemed to have developed more character than the "twerps", and while I wouldn't want them to have their own series, to take them out of the current show completely would negate any conceivable reason to even want to watch the show anymore.

Another thing that has to change is either:
A. Use less Character(s) of the Day and bring back old ones to develop their character.

or

B. Make all CotDs unique and have a character that doesn't remind anyone of the past consecutive 6* we've seen (number 7 being the break in between).

*"6" just being an example number.

"B" would probably be more difficult to do, so I would go with A, myself.

Lastly, I think that Pokemon stories should be more interesting, as they were in Kanto. If there aren't any annoying CotDs around, then the star Pokemon is usually troubled somehow, misunderstood, or ditzy-ish. I recall the episode with the Shiftry and Nurse Joy. Obviously, Shifty needed Joy to tend to a sick Nuzleaf, but it follows the same formula of "Evil-like Pokemon making hasty decisions to help another Pokemon" we've seen for years now. I would've made it so that Shifty was the king of the forest, per se, and he wanted to have Joy as his queen. Nurse Joy denies, and Shifty becomes enraged leading to a human sacrifice in which Ash and co. save her in the nick of time and destroy King Shifty's reign.

It's a stretch, but Shifty's flavor text makes it seem possible, and he's a dark type after all. And it would be both unpredictable and more interesting then what we got instead. Since I care nothing about non Team rocket human characters, I would be content with just better Poke-only episodes, some that go beyond any stretch of the imagination. Come on, there's 386 or so Pokemon. Surely you can come up with some really innovative stuff, like that of Kanto.
 
Why is Pikachu so strong no matter how skilled his opponent is? That's easy to answer! I mean he's been to THREE Regions now! His level would probably be close to 200, maybe even 300. So, of course he's stronger than most opponents he faces. But, he still loses. Flannery beat him.
 
SBaby said:
Why is Pikachu so strong no matter how skilled his opponent is? That's easy to answer! I mean he's been to THREE Regions now! His level would probably be close to 200, maybe even 300. So, of course he's stronger than most opponents he faces. But, he still loses. Flannery beat him.
There no such thing as Lv:200 anymore. And thats a very moronic awnser, infact, it doesn't even count. And what your saying is everyone Ash faces is most likely weaker than he is, but you don't know how long gym leaders and the Elite 4 have trained so as Elite Trainer Raven would say right about now "you fail!".
 
There's also the fact that..oh, I dunno, there's NO SUCH THING AS NUMERAL LEVELS IN THE ANIME. ><

It's all about strategy and experience in the anime. Without either one, you're screwed.
 
Elite Trainer Raven said:
There's also the fact that..oh, I dunno, there's NO SUCH THING AS NUMERAL LEVELS IN THE ANIME. ><

It's all about strategy and experience in the anime. Without either one, you're screwed.
Theres also the fact that... Oh, I dunno, there's NO SUCH THING STRATEGY AND EXPERIENCE IN THE ANIME! ^w^!

I don't think Agility will confuse any opponent, Quick Attack isn't gonna OHKO Raichi, and Pikachu can't magicly absorb a Thunderwave attack. Stuff like damage and effects don't apply in the anime, thats why Ash beats down his opponents and the same reason why so many people are horrible trainers in the game. The all thinks "If Ash and co can do it, then I guess we can to!!!".
 
Spike Razzor said:
Theres also the fact that... Oh, I dunno, there's NO SUCH THING STRATEGY AND EXPERIENCE IN THE ANIME! ^w^!

I don't think Agility will confuse any opponent, Quick Attack isn't gonna OHKO Raichi, and Pikachu can't magicly absorb a Thunderwave attack. Stuff like damage and effects don't apply in the anime, thats why Ash beats down his opponents and the same reason why so many people are horrible trainers in the game. The all thinks "If Ash and co can do it, then I guess we can to!!!".
Are you nuts? This isn't the game. Electric Pok?mon can easily absorb electricity. Agility is a boost of speed that can leave the opponent wondering where the hell they went. And Pikachu's Quick Attack didn't OHKO Raichu, for your information. Raichu spent up all of its electricity, tired itself out from not being able to hit Pikachu and Pikachu smashed it across the face with its tail after having slammed into Raichu's stomach. Strategy does exist. Just using straight out strong attacks doesn't work. I'd figure you'd have known that after bringing up the Pikachu vs Raichu fight. Speed, that Raichu did not have, overcame Raichu's attacks. Experience as in experience points do not exist. But experience as having gone through things does exist.

If anything, the anime's more realistic in terms of strategy than the games are.
 
Elite Trainer Raven said:
There's also the fact that..oh, I dunno, there's NO SUCH THING AS NUMERAL LEVELS IN THE ANIME. ><

It's all about strategy and experience in the anime. Without either one, you're screwed.

I agree about strategy and experience, but not about the Level thing.

Watch the 3-part episode of Master Quest with the Mom and Baby Lugia in them. Team Rocket gives a LEVEL READING of 5700 (can't remember the exact number, but it's in the 5000 range) on the mother. They've also made references to how much experience Pokemon attain and what level they learn attacks on. Point: They still use Levels and Level Readings in the Anime. They just call them Power Levels or Power Readings now. So actually, "You fail!"

But that isn't what I was saying in my last post anyway. I was just comparing him to the games, that's all. All I meant is if he was in the games (I mean Ash's Pikachu), his Level would be around 200 by now. That's just my explanation as to why Pikachu almost never loses.
 
SBaby said:
I agree about strategy and experience, but not about the Level thing.

Watch the 3-part episode of Master Quest with the Mom and Baby Lugia in them. Team Rocket gives a LEVEL READING of 5700 (can't remember the exact number, but it's in the 5000 range) on the mother. They've also made references to how much experience Pokemon attain and what level they learn attacks on. Point: They still use Levels and Level Readings in the Anime. They just call them Power Levels or Power Readings now. So actually, "You fail!"

But that isn't what I was saying in my last post anyway. I was just comparing him to the games, that's all. All I meant is if he was in the games (I mean Ash's Pikachu), his Level would be around 200 by now. That's just my explanation as to why Pikachu almost never loses.
Ugh, why oh WHY do people use the dub as their source of trying to prove things. DO NOT LISTEN TO WHAT 4KIDS SAYS, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MOST OF THE TIME. Power levels? Power readings? What is this, Dragon Ball Z? It's NOT in the anime. The Japanese version has only made ONE reference to numeral levels back in early Kanto and DROPPED IT later on. RPG statistics have no place in realistic world because they make absolutely no sense.
 
Ok, I'll give you that. I've never seen the Japanese episodes of Pokemon, so I only have the dub to base my references off of. But, yeah. They seem to be making it a bit like Dragonball, especially with the battles getting longer... Many of the major ones, especially in the Leagues are already up to 3 episodes long. And they are talking about making them even longer.

Funny though, they said that 4 Kids actually did one of the best dub jobs on the show compared to other translators. I thought they only got rid of the Japanese Culture references...
 
Elite Trainer Raven said:
Are you nuts? This isn't the game. Electric Pok?mon can easily absorb electricity. Agility is a boost of speed that can leave the opponent wondering where the hell they went. And Pikachu's Quick Attack didn't OHKO Raichu, for your information. Raichu spent up all of its electricity, tired itself out from not being able to hit Pikachu and Pikachu smashed it across the face with its tail after having slammed into Raichu's stomach. Strategy does exist. Just using straight out strong attacks doesn't work. I'd figure you'd have known that after bringing up the Pikachu vs Raichu fight. Speed, that Raichu did not have, overcame Raichu's attacks. Experience as in experience points do not exist. But experience as having gone through things does exist.

If anything, the anime's more realistic in terms of strategy than the games are.
Why did Ash make his Pikachu avoid Thunderwave when he faced Jasmine? Can't Pikachu absorb it, or are you just wrong?

Double Team does the SAME thing in the Anime, but I never seen any Pokemon become confused from it, even if its a Pokemon much faster than Pikachu like Scyther for example. Ninkask is the fastest Pokemon alive, it moving alone should confuse its opponent should it now, or are you just wrong again?

Question one again, when Raichu used all its electrical powers, why didn't Pikachu absorb it? Same thing goes for Raichu when Pikachu hits it in the face (its tail was glowing with electricity).

There is NO way Pikachu could be faster than Raichu without being at a much higher level (yes, level has been said in the show, usually by Brock.), just think of it as growing up. When you are an adult, your much faster and stronger than a child, the only reason Pikachu even won that match was because he has to in order for the show to work out they way it does (Ash HAS to win ever match sooner or later). Pikachu basicly godmodes that battle because once it uses Agility, instead of speeding up it confused its opponent and sky rocketed it evasion. Also, head on attacks seem to work out all the time for Ash when there beating up Team Rocket v_v...

Whatever, the show bends the rules of the attacks in Ashes favour, even now Bulbasaur can't learn dig, so it should of died in Pr. Oaks backyard episodes ago. When Ash faced Claire, Snorlax knocks out Kingdra with Ice Punch... Kingdra has no weakness but Dragon so what the hell? When Ash faced Gary for the first time, Eevee changes what Reflect does and deflected Pikachu as if it was doing a Counter attack. And when Ash and Gary face off at the Silver Confrence, there are so many unrealistic things happening I can't remember most of them... Even though they did look pretty cool O.O!

1.) Magmar combines Fire Blast and Body Slam and hits Heracross at high speed from the sky and somehow doesn't take damage itself, who inturn beats its wings (which should probably burn up since there so frail) and deflects the flames like a fan.

2.) Scizor makes Snorlax look like a chump when its uses what looks like Quick Attack to finish it off...

3.) Charizard beats Blastoise with one attack I believe... Impossible, misleading an impossible...
 
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Spike Razzor said:
Why did Ash make his Pikachu avoid Thunderwave when he faced Jasmine? Can't Pikachu absorb it, or are you just wrong?[/quotw] He isn't wrong, abosrbing an attack doesn't mean it doesn't effect, heck ya it does. It just simply cuts down on how much wear that Pikachu takes. So, Satoshi simply didn't want his Pokemonm to get ANY damage, that is why he told it to dodge.

spike razzor said:
Double Team does the SAME thing in the Anime, but I never seen any Pokemon become confused from it, even if its a Pokemon much faster than Pikachu like Scyther for example. Ninkask is the fastest Pokemon alive, it moving alone should confuse its opponent should it now, or are you just wrong again?
Double team in the anime and game are diffrent, in the game it gives you a CHANCE that you won't be hit. In the anime it creates illusions that are dead on, and it does leave a pokemon confused in the sense that it can't see what it really wants to hit. The game only gives a percentage boost.

spike razzor said:
Question one again, when Raichu used all its electrical powers, why didn't Pikachu absorb it? Same thing goes for Raichu when Pikachu hits it in the face (its tail was glowing with electricity).
See first reply

spike razzor said:
There is NO way Pikachu could be faster than Raichu without being at a much higher level (yes, level has been said in the show, usually by Brock.), just think of it as growing up. When you are an adult, your much faster and stronger than a child, the only reason Pikachu even won that match was because he has to in order for the show to work out they way it does (Ash HAS to win ever match sooner or later). Pikachu basicly godmodes that battle because once it uses Agility, instead of speeding up it confused its opponent and sky rocketed it evasion. Also, head on attacks seem to work out all the time for Ash when there beating up Team Rocket v_v...
Game levels DON'T exist in the anime. Takeshi never once said anything about level taking direct effect, it was in a very diffrent context. Level has almost nothing to do with how strong the Pokemon is in the anime.

spike razzor said:
Whatever, the show bends the rules of the attacks in Ashes favour, even now Bulbasaur can't learn dig, so it should of died in Pr. Oaks backyard episodes ago. When Ash faced Claire, Snorlax knocks out Kingdra with Ice Punch... Kingdra has no weakness but Dragon so what the hell? When Ash faced Gary for the first time, Eevee changes what Reflect does and deflected Pikachu as if it was doing a Counter attack. And when Ash and Gary face off at the Silver Confrence, there are so many unrealistic things happening I can't remember most of them... Even though they did look pretty cool O.O!
The game and the anime have diffrent rules for battles, simple as that.
 
Spike Razzor said:
Why did Ash make his Pikachu avoid Thunderwave when he faced Jasmine? Can't Pikachu absorb it, or are you just wrong?
Though Electric-types CAN absorb electricity, it's to a certain degree. Not to mention, we've seen Pikachu blasted with Thunder Wave before and it STILL paralyzes the target.

Spike Razzor said:
Double Team does the SAME thing in the Anime, but I never seen any Pokemon become confused from it, even if its a Pokemon much faster than Pikachu like Scyther for example. Ninkask is the fastest Pokemon alive, it moving alone should confuse its opponent should it now, or are you just wrong again?
I mentioned Agility, not Double Team. And in case you weren't aware, it DOES leave the opponent confused. The user leaves several afterimages of themselves while running around fast as hell. The speed is the result of the Double Team. Hell, the Japanese name is "Kage Bunshin" which pretty much means "Shadow Afterimage." Of course it's gonna confuse the target unless they attack all of the "copies" at the same time.

Spike Razzor said:
Question one again, when Raichu used all its electrical powers, why didn't Pikachu absorb it? Same thing goes for Raichu when Pikachu hits it in the face (its tail was glowing with electricity).
Raichu's electricity was TOO powerful. Even in the Raikou special, Raikou couldn't absorb its own electricity that became doubled by a crystal. Plus we've seen the negative effects that stored electricity can have (refer to AG 01 and the Magnemite episode).

Spike Razzor said:
There is NO way Pikachu could be faster than Raichu without being at a much higher level (yes, level has been said in the show, usually by Brock.), just think of it as growing up. When you are an adult, your much faster and stronger than a child, the only reason Pikachu even won that match was because he has to in order for the show to work out they way it does (Ash HAS to win ever match sooner or later). Pikachu basicly godmodes that battle because once it uses Agility, instead of speeding up it confused its opponent and sky rocketed it evasion. Also, head on attacks seem to work out all the time for Ash when there beating up Team Rocket v_v...
Surge evolved Raichu the moment he got his Pikachu. So he never raised it to be a fast Pok?mon, nor did it learn its Speed attacks. It was proven that pure power means nothing unless you have good tactics to back it up. Raichu couldn't hit Pikachu who was using Agility and Quick Attack since it wasn't trained to use fast attacks. Raichu spent up its energy doing so and got even slower. The anime does NOT have RPG stats and is much more realistic than the games. Agility boosts up the speed of the user. Meaning that while they're running and using it, their speed increases (like a boost of energy).

Head on attacks have RARELY worked on the Rockets. Have no idea where you got that idea. Besides, it's the Rocket Gang. They're not exactly what you'd call well prepared for anything.

Spike Razzor said:
Whatever, the show bends the rules of the attacks in Ashes favour, even now Bulbasaur can't learn dig, so it should of died in Pr. Oaks backyard episodes ago. When Ash faced Claire, Snorlax knocks out Kingdra with Ice Punch... Kingdra has no weakness but Dragon so what the hell? When Ash faced Gary for the first time, Eevee changes what Reflect does and deflected Pikachu as if it was doing a Counter attack. And when Ash and Gary face off at the Silver Confrence, there are so many unrealistic things happening I can't remember most of them... Even though they did look pretty cool O.O!
So it can't learn Dig in the games, big deal. Doesn't mean it can't use its legs to dig itself a hole. Animals can dig without needing to know this "move" called Dig. That's like saying the Flying Pok?mon need to know Fly before being able to fly. e_e

It was explained in the anime that Kingdra was indeed a Water-type, but showed more of a Dragon-type characteristic. Besides, Ice CAN beat Water in real life. Yanno, it FREEZES water? >_>

Uh, Reflect's effects are like Light Screen's. They block attacks of a certain type. Pikachu tried smashing into Eevee, and it used "Reflector" (as it's known in the Japanese version) to put up a barrier in front of it to stop the attack. The games make these attacks less technical so that they work with the coding. The anime has much more freedom and CAN work them properly.

As for Satoshi against Shigeru in the Silver Conference, yes it is somewhat odd how Charizard beat Blastoise and Golem but it made PERFECT sense how it was done. Blastoise's water attacks couldn't hit from a close range since they're made to fire from long distances. Charizard's assault on the ground also caused a smokescreen to get close to Blastoise without it seeing it. Being spun in the air and then slammed into the ground was enough to beat Blastoise.

As for Golem, Dragonrage doesn't have the same effect as the games. Wouldn't make sense to have it do a certain amount of damage when HP doesn't exist. Charizard used Dragonrage, which was a tremendous blast of energy. Golem don't have much defense against Special Attacks, plus it rolled right into the attack. So the impact of the blast had an even worse effect on Golem.

Spike Razzor said:
1.) Magmar combines Fire Blast and Body Slam and hits Heracross at high speed from the sky and somehow doesn't take damage itself, who inturn beats its wings (which should probably burn up since there so frail) and deflects the flames like a fan.
Uh, it was Fire Blast and Flamethrower, not Body Slam. Heracross was suffering from the fire but it managed to blow off Magmar. And since its wings were beating very fast, they wouldn't have burned up. Take for instance if you wave your finger fast enough through a flame. It will get abit burned, but you won't light on fire unless you don't do it fast enough...and if you actually attempt it. >_>

Spike Razzor said:
2.) Scizor makes Snorlax look like a chump when its uses what looks like Quick Attack to finish it off...
Scizor's speed and metalic body had an influence in how much damage the attack did. Snorlax was caught off guard by this. You'd be knocked out too if you were slammed by a speeding chunk of metal coming your way.

Spike Razzor said:
3.) Charizard beats Blastoise with one attack I believe... Impossible, misleading an impossible...
Not true. Read above.
 
If I could change the anime, I would have it so that Flanney was the main character. That would be so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yeah... Cool...

I would make it just a bit more mature. not blody and gorey or anything of that sort, but possibly story that have a bit more trauma to them. More personal issues and self doubt. Real people aren't always so sure of themselves. But so far, the only one who truly seemed to doubt themselves is May.
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
Yeah... Cool...

I would make it just a bit more mature. not blody and gorey or anything of that sort, but possibly story that have a bit more trauma to them. More personal issues and self doubt. Real people aren't always so sure of themselves. But so far, the only one who truly seemed to doubt themselves is May.
You mean more or less the way it feels after Satoshi(ash) losses a league, but yearround?
 
Not at all. After he loses a league he's disappointed, but not doubting himself. If anything he just strives harder. He always looks at the positive side. A rather innocent thinking he's maintained through the whole cartoon. I think he should deal with not just your normal issues we've seen up to this point, but issues that would be more controversial that aren't always the sweetest endings. Two episodes I liked most were the smeargel episode with the painter and the rescent meteorite episode. The ending was bitter sweet because in the end, the meteor was destroyed. and in the end, the painting was washed away in the rain. Every other conflict is resolved in a completely good way. ANd the good guys always win too. IMO, the best way to get it more mature is to change that cliche. Let the bad guys win every once in a while at the very least.
 
Actually, remember how Satoshi was all mopey after the Kanto League? He was feeling pretty bad and angry with himself at the same time.
 
That was teh only time. And that seemed more like frustration than actual self doubt. Notice he didn't question his trianing style after that point. he had to get his charizard frozen in a block of ice and thaw it out with his bare hands to realize the error of his training. Because it was only then that Charizard decided it would listen to him.
 
Ok. Here's a new thing. Attack combinations. I don't mean the kind you've already seen in the show. I mean the kind where you combine two attacks from different Pokemon to get a whole new attack. (i.e. Thunderbolt + Cut = The Thunderbolt Cut. Fire Blast + Ice Beam + Thunderbolt = Delta Attack)

It would seriously impact the types of strategies used in the show; a Pokemon strong against Electric Attacks might take more damage from the Fire and Water parts of Delta. Or, they combine just for increased damage, while still leaving it open for certain attacks to be resisted. Again, just an idea...
 
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