Suggestion: Just a thought

[colcolstyles]

I don't know if misplaced threads are still as big of a problem here as they used to be but maybe we should consider changing the title of "Community Questions & Feedback" to "PokéCommunity Questions & Feedback". Perhaps that would help clarify that this forum is solely for PC-related questions?

 

[Hybrid Trainer]

I think this would be a great idea, we still might get the odd pokémon rom hacking question but it should cut down on the random questions for the people who fail to read that this forum is for PokéCommunity related threads.

 

[Legobricks]

It'd look a bit awkward unless Announcements is also changed that way, I think.

 

[Ho-Oh]

While the name change sounds good in theory, the fact is if people aren't reading the notices in front of their faces telling them to only ask about the community or the forum description, or that all other threads created on non-PC things are locked then they probably won't notice the new name. :x

Also agreed with the post on announcements too. Maybe make "(Please do not use this forum for questions not relating to PokéCommunity!)" bold and it could stand out more? idk I don't think a four letter change will help much. :(

Or we could always throw in a new notice with size 7 text or something!

 

[Signomi]

Or you could just go and bold (Please do not use this forum for questions not relating to PokéCommunity!) as Nica said.

It is very tiring to see people make the same mistake over and over again, and most of the time it's just them not really bothering to read what information is actually available. I find bold letters to be an eyesore, and there are some aspects of a forum that should be more distinct for the sake of emphasis, so actually emphasising that one tidbit in the forum description may not completely solve the problem, but it'll decrease the likeliness of somebody missing it.

 

[Oryx]

Um...just giving my two cents here, if thats okay. .___.

To me...well..I don't think it matters if you made a size 89 announcement in big, bold red font or anything, I'm just thinking there's always going to be that one odd person here and there that's somehow going to skip over it and make a thread without really paying much attention to the direction anyway. For example...not to put anybody out there purposely but...

Most people noticed the "where did you post this" thread that was posted yesterday or so, right? Even though there was clearly a huge sticky dedicated to that sort of thing? This kinda proves my point here...I mean, we can try and abuse CSS and HTML and make notices and announcements big and pretty and literally impossible to ignore...but I'm just thinking that they'll still happen regardless. :x

Well to be fair, the thread is technically huge in that it's a long thread, but it's not huge on the page. It's just another thread, so it's even more likely to be skipped than the announcements above the thread area.

I don't really see a downside to this suggestion. Worst case scenario, it doesn't work and...the forum is renamed? Can't hurt to try, right? We can always fairly easily change it back if it looks bad or somehow hurts the forum. Unless it's exceedingly difficult to change the name of a forum which I don't think is the case but someone can correct me if it is.

 

[Nick]

While the subject of a name change is up in the air, I'd prefer it to be PokéCommunity Questions & Suggestions. Because feedback here goes either one of two ways: threads are made criticising something and everyone jumps down every one else's throats about stating their opinion and how their opinion is wrong and PokéCommunity is perfect and doesn't need to change anything, or threads are made praising everything and offering no real substance. I really like getting feedback (especially ones that point out a problem we may have overlooked), but the kind of feedback we get and how people respond to it is just not very helpful.

Plus, the vast majority of threads here are questions and suggestions.

 

[vaporeon7]

I think it should definitely be changed to the suggested because if it stops a few people from making a thread asking how to use the Serebiinet IV calculator or asking why isn't youtube working, it would make it a success. Of course there will be the simpleton who will miss or ignore what ever notice we set and make the mistake, but if we stop a few, it'll be worth it. It's either that or next to the 'post thread' button we put bold text asking if the thread is about the community.

 

[Oryx]

I think it should definitely be changed to the suggested because if it stops a few people from making a thread asking how to use the Serebiinet IV calculator or asking why isn't youtube working, it would make it a success. Of course there will be the simpleton who will miss or ignore what ever notice we set and make the mistake, but if we stop a few, it'll be worth it. It's either that or next to the 'post thread' button we put bold text asking if the thread is about the community.

That's actually really similar to an idea that I was kicking around but never suggested anywhere, to have the ability to add a warning to a thread that's shown next to the quick reply/reply box. Because that's much harder to miss, lol. Not quite the same though.

 

[colcolstyles]

Jeez, now I know what Toujours was talking about...

Yes, it's likely that a simple forum-name change won't make the biggest impact. However, it can't hurt, can it? If, like vaporeon7 said, it stops a few misplaced threads from being posted, then that's great. If it doesn't, what are the consequences? It's not like it's going to increase the number of misplaced threads. Yes, this is a tough problem to solve and my solution might not be the greatest but the problem isn't going to be solved by us standing around moping and saying "I don't think that'll work so let's not even try."

While the subject of a name change is up in the air, I'd prefer it to be PokéCommunity Questions & Suggestions. Because feedback here goes either one of two ways: threads are made criticising something and everyone jumps down every one else's throats about stating their opinion and how their opinion is wrong and PokéCommunity is perfect and doesn't need to change anything, or threads are made praising everything and offering no real substance. I really like getting feedback (especially ones that point out a problem we may have overlooked), but the kind of feedback we get and how people respond to it is just not very helpful.

Plus, the vast majority of threads here are questions and suggestions.

I like that idea better. Would the H-Staff be OK with a change like that?

 

[Melody]

I don't think it's going to to be ineffective, but I do see a "...It's not very effective" in the future.

Of course sometimes the small things can indeed make all the difference. I'll leave it up to staff to bounce names off the walls here and find a suitable one.

I am however against removing "Feedback" from the forum name. Feedback goes here none the less, and if you DO remove that from the title, you'll find "feedback" all over the place and not just here. If we can at least keep the huttburt noob damage localized to here alone...things will be fine. xD

 

[colcolstyles]

And I'm sorry for overreacting. The blog reference was unnecessary and in retrospect I regret it.

Now that we've established that, can we get back to discussing how to solve the problem? I maintain that changing "Community" to "PokéCommunity" might help the problem but that we won't know for sure until we try it. Are there any other suggestions?

 

[Alley Cat]

The problem I see with making it approval based threads, is that the rate at which people get answers would definitely slow down. Either a little, or very dramatically. I can't really say, but I am 99% sure that it would slow down the time between asking and answering. Is this section not meant to be quick, as well as thorough and informative? I guess not so much on the quick side, but I'm sure most of you would appreciate an answer to your thread sooner rather than later.

 

[Nick]

Another suggestion would require more work on the higher staff's part, but I'm also thinking of making CQ&F a "moderator approval" forum. This might sound crazy at first, and might sound only good on paper, because what I have in mind is this:

Lets say, for example, the higher staff regularly patrol CQ&F for any thread that should/should not be there. Any thread that shouldn't be in CQ&F merely gets unapproved, and the member in question that's thread is unapproved gets a PM from that certain h-staff member saying why their thread has been unapproved and whatnot.

I mean, it's definitely possible, but like I said, it's more work on the h-staff's part, but I do hope people know where I'm going with this. ><

We were considering the option of doing that, but it was decided against. I doubt it's changed, but I'm sure it'd be touched on in the thread as a possible option.

 

[Oryx]

My blog as a weapon? xDD;;

It being mod-approved would probably be a bit of a pain but not a huge deal, it's not like this is OVP with 20 threads a day or something. But I agree with Alley Cat on that, one of the things I love about CQF is that someone can ask an easy question and usually get it answered within 10 minutes. I would hate to see that lost in the section tbh.

 

[3749374]

What? Why is there such negativity? It's a completely straightforward and warranted suggestion. There's clearly an issue with the clarity of the purpose of this section. There's a lot of younger users on this forum (and some older) that don't always automatically understand that this section is solely PC related.

I think people are just so afraid of change. There's a thread posted in CQ&F which should be placed in other sections several times a week. If I was moderating a section, for example, and people kept posting the wrong things in it; I would take action to avoid that from happening. This suggestion is pretty well warranted as I say, and I think it's something that should be considered and worked upon. I honestly don't understand the opposition.

In regards to blogs, I don't think a rant from any member should be something to be taken in consideration. Whereas a suggestion by any member should be taken into account, which in this case was made by colcol, so I think any reference to a blog is somewhat unnecessary, but hey, not my place.