Just took Pokemon away from child.

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This reminds me of the school issue in Kansas where the school took away all copies of the game from the kids who bought them and burned them, then got their butts sued off big time.

Anyway, I'm going to place my money that you really havn't experenced the game yourself. Everything evolves in the real world, as your pokemon do in the game. Does the game say that pokemon were connected to a common animal like a monkey or something? No. Darwins' theory states that, yet the pokemon games do not. They put evolvution as a common thing that all living creatures go through in life, including humans. Using his theory as a base to condem a game actually makes no sense, since then you would have to condem yourself for the same thing your condeming. Natural evolution of both man and beast, the way that it was intended to be viewed as. Look at the world of today, we're all changing in some small form. Just using evoultion as a base, I'd say then that every human would be at fault with god then. If that made any sense at all in any form. Pokemon is a game based on trust and friendship. Actually some people only evolve BASED on how much they like you. If that isn't proof of friendship in the game, then I don't know what is.

Your son isn't going to turn into a goth-emo person or start doing rituals by playing a game. In fact if your going to trust your child playing any game; Nintendo is the best, and most family styled company out there. Sit down with a copy of Mario Party and see what I mean.

Here's what I suggest. First go look up the pokemon version of evolving on wikipedia, then sit down with your child and watch him play the game. In time you'll see that the game wasn't ment to be offensive to any religion or be taken offensive by any religion. I've got tons of friends who were in the same boat you are in when the games first came out, and nothing bad happened to affect their viewpoints on their religion by playing the game. There's a poll on the net somewhere proving this, but I don't have the link at this time.
 
As a fellow Christian who takes her faith very seriously, I can understand exactly why you would be concerned about this. I'm completely against Darwin's evolution theory--and obviously wouldn't play the Pokémon games if I thought that they supported it!

However... I've been playing them since I was around 9 or 10, and I know that none of the games mention anything about humans evolving, at all. As for the Pokemon, their transformations should be compared more to metamorphosis, rather than evolution. (The latter word may have been chosen because it was easier for kids to say, I guess?) They simply grow as you continue to train them; there's nothing satanic about it.

At first, it was a bit hard for me to convince my mom that this was true after she found out about the evolution thing, and I could understand why. It's not something that a Christian should take lightly. However, after explaining things to her, she now has no problem with it. She understands that there are a lot of things in the Pokemon games that actually help me to become a better Christian, too--and that they are certainly some of the best games for children to be playing these days, compared to most others that are out now.

The only way that I think it, as well as all kinds of other things in this world, could affect your son negatively would be if he wasn't grounded in his Christian faith. As long as you continue to teach him all about God's Word, then he'll understand the difference between right and wrong and will be less likely to make bad decisions in his life. He also has to be taught that it's all just a game, before he gets too wrapped up in it. You seem to be doing all that you can to make sure that this happens, though, so I don't think you really have anything to be worried about! :D

In the end, it is your decision, and if you decide that it's not appropriate for your son to be playing the game then there's nothing wrong with that. I just wanted to say that from a Christian point-of-view, I think it's harmless.
 
Kayleigh said:
As a fellow Christian who takes her faith very seriously, I can understand exactly why you would be concerned about this. I'm completely against Darwin's evolution theory--and obviously wouldn't play the Pokémon games if I thought that they supported it!

However... I've been playing them since I was around 9 or 10, and I know that none of the games mention anything about humans evolving, at all. As for the Pokemon, their transformations should be compared more to metamorphosis, rather than evolution. (The latter word may have been chosen because it was easier for kids to say, I guess?) They simply grow as you continue to train them; there's nothing satanic about it.

At first, it was a bit hard for me to convince my mom that this was true after she found out about the evolution thing, and I could understand why. It's not something that a Christian should take lightly. However, after explaining things to her, she now has no problem with it. She understands that there are a lot of things in the Pokemon games that actually help me to become a better Christian, too--and that they are certainly some of the best games for children to be playing these days, compared to most others that are out now.

The only way that I think it, as well as all kinds of other things in this world, could affect your son negatively would be if he wasn't grounded in his Christian faith. As long as you continue to teach him all about God's Word, then he'll understand the difference between right and wrong and will be less likely to make bad decisions in his life. He also has to be taught that it's all just a game, before he gets too wrapped up in it. You seem to be doing all that you can to make sure that this happens, though, so I don't think you really have anything to be worried about! :D

In the end, it is your decision, and if you decide that it's not appropriate for your son to be playing the game then there's nothing wrong with that. I just wanted to say that from a Christian point-of-view, I think it's harmless.
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That was a great way of putting it! And she's right. I remember when I got pokemon my parent's said it was a no, no. But we all sat down and had a conversation about how it was just growing up!
 
Any suggestions?
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Yeah. Don't breed. Oh, wait, you already did that. Then kill your kid and don't ever breed again.

Seriously though, there's nothing wrong with Pokemon. Evolution is not unbiblical. There is not one part of the bible that says evolution didn't happen. It says God created everything. That could mean God caused evolution. Therefore, evolution is not unbiblical. Let your kid have his damn game.

See? Everybody's happy. Evolutionists can believe what they want to believe, creationists can believe what they want to believe, and, most importantly, your kid can play his game.

And just a parting thought; it's illogical to say that evolution has never happened in any way, shape, or form and call it biblical. It's illogical to say it anyway, but really, don't say it's biblical. You give people a bad impression of you and your religion if you say things like that, and I'm sure that's not what you want.

Another problem, solved in a puff of logic.
 
Dr. SmoothSeks said:
Yeah. Don't breed. Oh, wait, you already did that. Then kill your kid and don't ever breed again.
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My valid question was under consideration for being "locked" and people that make HORRIBLE remarks like this don't get banned?! This is THE MOST OFFENSIVE THING THAT HAS EVER BEEN SAID TO ME.
 
KevinJ. said:
My valid question was under consideration for being "locked" and people that make HORRIBLE remarks like this don't get banned?! This is THE MOST OFFENSIVE THING THAT HAS EVER BEEN SAID TO ME.
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Tsk, I've been held at gun point...
 
It was a joke. Do I need to start using the [joke][/joke] tags? Did you not see the "seriously though" at the beginning of the next sentence?

And Animehero, my name is not inappropriate. I could explain it, but that's not the topic at hand, now is it?
 
Dr. SmoothSeks said:
It was a joke. Do I need to start using the [joke][/joke] tags? Did you not see the "seriously though" at the beginning of the next sentence?

And Animehero, my name is not inappropriate. I could explain it, but that's not the topic at hand, now is it?
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Jokes are supposed to be funny, maybe you missed that important qualifier. There are some things you just don't joke about. That "joke" was in very poor taste, and I request that a moderator punish you.
 
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Overreaction much? Funny or not, it was a joke. As in, not serious. I shudder to think what you would do if I had actually tried to insult you.
 
That "joke" was in very poor taste, and I request that a moderator punish you.
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Doesn't the Bible say not to judge others?

Also, you should really read all the long, explanatory posts people have made instead of ignoring them and only focusing on how one poster should be 'punished' and complaining about getting your thread locked.

As others have said, pokemon does nothing against Christianity.
 
I agree with Kenji-kun. It says in the bible not to Judge. It also says you should forgive your neighbor or in this context fellow community member. Someone has already pointed out to the offensive posters that they should hold their tounge in this subject and refrain from thse offensive remarks.
This is a very touchy subject so ill keep it to the point.

Put yourself in your son's shoes. How do you think he is gonna feel about it?
taking the game away from him will push him away and may prevent him from listening to you when you do teach him about god. And to say that god says "playing pokemon is bad" will only push him further away from god and religion. which i am sure you dont want. All it takes is a little research to prove to yourself that Pokemon does not support Darwinisim and does not contain any questionable content.
Feel free to PM me If you wish to discuss this with me. I wont post more than I have to because when the dodie hits the fan I'm not gonna be here to partake in the ensuing flame war...

Dont get me wrong, I honestly think This should stay open until the flame war actually starts. The Thread's creator Wouldnt have it any other way. And i dont blame him. He is a Christan seeking other Christan pokemon players who have studied more on pokemon. Dont Scold him for starting a thread that is controversial he is merely seeking moral guidance...
 
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...Dr. SmoothSeks, you really should be more careful. This isn't the first time I've seen you get into arguments. -_-;; It was a joke, but just... no. That isn't something you should joke about. People get hurt and offended, especially if they think it's serious.

The current argument stops here. I don't want to see another thing on it, nor any other off-topic argument for that matter, otherwise I'm handing out warnings.
 
Why don't you just close this thread instead? I mean really, what's the point of it if the owner of it isn't gonna listen anyways? (He only seemed to listen to the few little brats making rude remarks in here to him, pssht). All this thread is is wasted space. Pretty soon it's gonna be filled with a billion posts trying to explain WHY it's ok to play the game and the owner's not gonna listen to any one of those (Oh wait, hasn't that already happened?) Well ok then, next should be fights breaking out and then a billion more posts on why we should close this totally pointless thread. ;P Can't we just skip a few steps already? I mean, of all the time I've been here usually these threads end up closed anyway, right? -_____-

(Btw is this considered an argument? Cause it was supposed to be more like a suggestion...but w/e. If it is just give me a warning and I'll know for next time (and I am being serious) just in case..)
 
KevinJ. said:
My valid question was under consideration for being "locked" and people that make HORRIBLE remarks like this don't get banned?! This is THE MOST OFFENSIVE THING THAT HAS EVER BEEN SAID TO ME.
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That is pretty offensive... Some people are rude here. Just ignore them.
 
[PokeCommunity.com] Just took Pokemon away from child.


I think we're done here.

KevinJ, you have been given many valuable answers to your questions and concerns, sadly many that only get repeated the longer this thread stays open.
If you take these answers into consideration, maybe read them a few times and try to understand the view of the poster, I am sure you can find a way that is satisfying for both, you and your child.

You have also witnessed how stupid and immature some people can be, especially on the topic of religion and beliefs, but I can assure you that we won't leave any disrespect towards a member in that way unpunished.

So, before this gets more out of hand, I'm putting an end to this discussion.

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